HD Format Wars = Over!
 

Paramount next one to leave the sinking HD-DVD ship.

So, Warner leaves and then Paramount jumps, leaving HD-DVD with absolutely no one on their side, making HD-DVD all but a dead format. FINALLY!

I'm so glad this stupid f*cking format war is finally at a close. Not for any care of either format, but because the idiots at Sony have made this a videogame industry thing, and I'm sick and tired of reading about it where games are concerned. Another thing, give it a couple weeks and all the HD-DVD's will be cut to ridiculously low prices, and I'll be able to stock up on the cheap sales!

WEEEEEE!

So, does anyone else even care about this in the slightest? Or am I one of the few who has completely jumped into the HD format generation around these parts?

I'm ****ing stoked that its finally over.

Nice. I don't think DVD has run its course just yet, but the biggest reason I haven't adopted an HD format yet was because of the retarded format war.

Maybe now the ridiculous prices will finally go down too.

Listen. i'm glad everyone's happy and everything, but I just don't get the big woop about HD/Blue DVD's anyway. I mean, to notice a difference, you need an expensive TV, connected to an expensive Sound System on an expensive DVD player (or expensive Video Game system). I'm stuck watching a Taiwanese produced regular DVD play on a 12" TV I got 8 years ago. And it's in ear blistering mono too.

But that said, does HD/Blu make White Chicks any less sucky a movie?

Anyway, I agree. This "format War" was devised by Sony and Microsoft to try to outsell their stupid video game systems when they first came out (and who wants to buy a video game system when it first comes out? Didn't half of them have faulty wiring at one point?). And aren't regular DVD's outselling those things anyway?

I'm just glad one of the stupid formats is faultering.

LOL! Your ignorance is showing. Gotta love people who talk about things they clearly don't know sh*t about.

The amount of ignorance in Drtooth's post is mind-blowing.

But yeah, I'm glad this crap is over. It went on way too long. Isn't this the first time Sony succeeded with a format? I bet they can't believe it themselves.

I'm pretty sure Sony is partially responsible for the CD.

The only reason I haven't jumped to either of the new formats yet is because of the "format wars" and everything that came with them.

I'm glad Bluray one, though, because that puts the USA and Japan in the same region and I'd love to be able to watch Bluray movies from both countries on the same player.

^ Huh?! How would they be in the same Region-code just because of BluRay, when they haven't been before?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Region_codes

Apparently there's some sort of profit to be made from grouping the Americas and various parts of Asia into the same region that wasn't there when the original DVD regions were made.

Besides, it's not like Regions were these hardcore laws that Congress made just to mess with us. It's all about the studios producing this stuff.

Pardon me for not having rich parents, a decent job or credit cards I want to maxx out and have to spend the rest of my life paying the hell off.


Okay? I'm sick of hearing people complain about having enough damn money to buy all the useless crap they can because they can.

Then of course, waiting fifty years, and find out they have no decent retirement plan.

"Ooh, the picture in Norbit is so much better." may I ask you, who cares? HD doesn't make a crap movie better, much like a high class chef can't make a dish sponge edible.

Can you explain where Doc is wrong, for those of us who are also ignorant.

Because he grossly exaggerates the costs of an HD setup, assumes the average consumer shares his lack of funds and interest, assumes the format was created as a marketing ploy to sell video game systems and tries to use the quality of the content to discredit the quality of the presentation; all seemingly because of some grudge he bears against the format.

Did I miss anything?

You got everything, man. Tooth's post took two years off my lifespan. Thanks! :cry:

Actuall, what I got was thus:

The HD/Blu ray thing was basically a spat between Microsoft and Sony, as they are both fearce competitors in the console wars. Now, this is just my absolute F*** stupidity on this part, but I just came up with the wacky notion that they both wanted to create a way to sell video game machines, and making certain products incompatible with each other so both sides can stake a claim in trying to get profits. hense the whole reason why they need 2 similar formats.

Secondly, I never even understood the point of HD/Blu ray for one reason. Why improve on a medium that's very very close to being obsolete? I mean, Cd's are on their way out, due to MP3's. So it's a safe guess that the DVD, in any form, is going to fall into the same fate, as a lot of studios are actually turning to the internet to combat pirates. So we're seeing more movies and TV shows legally popping up on company websites. Now, I feel that it's a few years before it gets perfected, sure. But even still, the DVD has, what? 5 good years left tops? I mean, the fact that many companies let you download HD movies on your computer pretty much is digging a grave for the DVD itself anyway.

So yeah, you can see my faulty logic. next time, I'll explain why these high tech toys encourage mindless greedy people to max out their credit cards, and not actually save for the future.

God, just just up. Seriously.

I'm glad its over. I picked Blu-Ray as the winner, and now me and my PS3 get to reap the rewards.

God, its like hearing a technology report from a local access TV news station. Confident as anything, but clearly doesn't have a ****ing clue.

The market is going to eventually get segmented into two groups, the smaller high-end HD market (Blu-Ray), and the larger mass-market (DVD). I'll be camping in the HD group now that this format war bullsh*t is over.

First purchase, Pirates 1-3 Blu-Ray.

God I love how he used "Norbit" and "White Chicks" as examples. I'm positive nobody has gone around saying how good "Norbit" looks in HD.

Really glad to hear this. I've had a Miramax hd tv since last year, and have been endlessly waiting for this war to end. Now I can be more serious about that ps3.

I'm still fine with DVDs, I guess. I hardly ever watch them anyways. I'd rather play my movies, right guys?

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Oh man, for once I laughed at a Doom joke. Kudos.

Firstly, Doom, that was f*cking hilarious.

And now on to our local doctor. My problems with your initially retarded post are THUS...

Microsoft has absolutely ZERO to do with the HD Format war. Not only do they have NOTHING to do with HD-DVD, which is a Toshiba created format, but the 360 didn't even have any type of HD format solutions UNTIL ALMOST A YEAR after launch. Microsoft has NO STAKE in the format wars, and Bill Gates has even gone on to say that while they're honoring their friendship with Toshiba by backing HD-DVD first, if Blu-Ray becomes the clear winner, Microsoft won't have a problem backing that either. The HD format wars have NOTHING TO DO with the console wars, but because Sony decided to throw it in the PS3, fanboys and ignorant fools alike have decided that it's part of our industry now, which it isn't.

Next, what console had faulty wiring at launch? Are you just pulling sh*t from the sky here? The original Xbox had 3 cases of power bricks smoking, which turned into a huge thing that people still don't understand, but saying people don't buy consoles at first because they have faulty wiring? Where the f*ck does this come from!?

And last but not least are your views on the HD format in general. First, who the f*ck ever said that a movie being in HD made it good? NO ONE! Bad movies are bad, so your examples of White Chicks and Norbit are completely f*cking retarded. However, good movies with terrific HD transfers are made all the better with the superior picture and sound, and trust me, it IS superior.

And exactly how expensive do you think this sh*t is? My mom and myself bought my dad an entire setup for Christmas. This included a 52" Sony Bravia, a huge wireless Pioneer 5.1 surround sound system, and an HD-DVD player, along with all the cables and a year of HD satellite and it cost is around $2,200 CDN. Now, I don't know what kind of town you come from, but where I'm from, $2,200 for an amazing HD setup isn't bank breaking. It's a lot of money, but I can assure you that neither of us will spend the next 5 years paying it off, and neither of our credit cards are maxed out.

Get a clue, or get out.

Good show, old boy. Good show.

I guess if I watched movies somewhere other than my room, I'd be more inclined to actually upgrade from my tube TV and DVD player to an HD setup.

I put my HD DVD drive and 4 movies on ebay this past weekend. I got almost $150, I'm ok with that. My mom took back a couple HD DVDs she got me for Christmas. So I have about $250 to put towards a PS3 for Blu Ray.

Yeah, I never got the big deal about High-Def/Blue-Ray.

Personally, I think normal dvds are good enough.

I'll admit, with King Kong there was a more noticeable difference in quality (the High-Def does look a little better...just not enough for me to run out and buy a new player when my regular works just fine)...but the older movies that have been "converted" to High-Def didn't look any different to me at all.

I'm glad to see that the big war is over though, even though I didn't really care about it. I was sick of hearing about it from my mom (she's more into tech stuff than I am).

I'll stick with the regular dvds until they stop making them.

You are really exaggerating the cost here. I Don't have rich parents, nor a decent job and credit cards (In fact, no credit cards.) And I have an HD TV. And seriously the difference is large. You may not think it is, but trust me.

GK, do you have this as part of an entertainment center or is it one you have in your bed room?

I actually have one in my room. I tend to watch movies more in bed than anywhere else.

Mine is in my room, too. Only about $330.

I've been wanting to get a really nice monitor to use for gaming, TV, movies and whatever else, as well as computer type stuff. I think I came to the conclusion taht this would be the cheapest and easiest way to have an HD-type setup. I guess that would severely cut down on my multi-tasking though.

F*ck!

Looks like everyone spoke to soon. Paramount has denied the claims and says they, along with Universal, are still behind HD-DVD. It's going to continue, folks. :cry:

It's all a matter of time anyway I think.

You'd think so, but the longer this drags out the worse it gets. It just needs to be over.

I really don't care one way or another what kind of formats exist as long as I can buy my favorite movie and play it. All I know the difference in is price, and that I have a plain, ordinary DVD player and 19" television.

The kind of money you guys talk about spending for an HD setup? It'd take me three months worth of paychecks to have that kind of money. IF I didn't have something called, oh, bills? Like a car payment, gas to put in that car, insurance, cell phone, food to eat, and just enough to tuck away for emergencies and rainy days, which do happen. And I work hard at my job, lousy as it is, to earn it all.

My family isn't poor by any means, they're middle-class, but they could never afford to buy anything like that on their income. They have to eat and live too.

All I'm getting at is you're being completely unfair and condescending to those who simply don't understand what the big deal is, and don't have the money to invest on these kinds of things like all you lords of the electronic world. That's what Dr. Tooth is saying. More than likely not because he's jealous, but because he has more important things on his agenda than worrying what kind of formatted entertainment system he has in his living room or whether or not it's big enough to see from the front yard window.

This thread is starting to remind me of the Weird Al Song "Frank's 2000' TV."

or maybe, because posts like his, and yours, is condescending to those of us who DO care? If your point is that you "Can't afford it and don't care" then why bother posting in the thread? If you don't care, you wouldn't say anything. That's what not caring is.

Yeah buying one new TV last year really means I'm a "Lord of the electronic world" and means I have cash to throw around on whatever I want. Sure. That also explains why the TV I replaced was over 15 years old and out right died so I had to replace it.

Yep, That's me. condescending lord of the electronic world.

If you can't afford to spend $2,000 once every 8-10 or even 15 years, you're not middle-class. Sorry, but it's true. It's not like those of us with HD setups are running out and buying a new TV every other year. And Tooth is getting the hate because he came out and balked about something he doesn't understand. If you don't know sh*t, don't say sh*t. Simple as that.

I didn't even pay that much... a couple hundred dollars (Closer to 400) over the course of a few months on a debit card.

Which is exactly my point. I got an entire HD setup for just over $2,000. People act like HDTV's still cost that much ALONE. You can get a great HDTV for beans now.