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Breakthrough in Writer's strike!!!
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They were still on strike?
Meh, no bother for me either way. No show I watch was affected, nor would I have cared if it were. |
I've been watching so many DVDs during this time I little noticed.
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It's not a breakthrough unless the WGA pops in and says, "We'll take it." It just seems like another deal in a long line of deals that isn't quite what they wanted. The only real progress I've heard was the WGA dropping their (ludicrous) demands to absorb writers from Reality shows (who are stealing their jobs, how come they aren't considered scabs?), and Animated programming (which, most of them belong to another union all together).
I just want the Oscars to go on so we can see which idiotic sobfest or mainstream indie film gets the awards. Plus, I want my ^%$# Family Guy back (Only prime time sitcom type animated programs were affected. And while The Simpsons, King of the Hill, and American Dad finished off their seasons, Family Guy needs the writers working till the last minute for their episodes). |
I just want them back in time to keep Battlestar Galactica on a decent schedule. I'm sure there would be a gap in new episodes at this point, but I want to see how this story ends!:D
If Heroes came back at a decent time, that would be icing on the cake. |
I know of people working on reality tv shows who have been egging on the writers...saying things like: "Yeah you guys are right...don't go back to work until the studios cave in"...then laughing about the writers behind their backs. :lol:
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Hard to tell there's a strike, most of the movies that come out now are terrible anyway. Same goes for TV programs.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080208/...lywood_labor_1
The now 3-month-old Hollywood writers strike could enter its final chapter Saturday when guild members gather in Los Angeles and New York to consider a proposed contract. If writers respond favorably, the walkout that has devastated the entertainment industry could end as soon as Monday. Writers were wavering between hope and skepticism as they prepared to learn details of the deal for the first time. "The feeling is relief and optimism and excitement," said Hilary Winston, a writer for the NBC sitcom "My Name Is Earl." Still, she couldn't shake her lingering anxiety. "I hope this deal made this three months worth it," she said. Writer Erik Oleson, who watched a deal for a TV pilot fall apart during the strike, was reserving judgment. "I'm not going to drink the Kool-Aid and accept a bad deal. I'd rather continue the strike," Oleson said. "We saw a press release but what matters is the fine print." If members show strong support for the deal, the union could quickly lift its strike order, allowing dozens of TV shows to return to production and putting thousands of actors, crew members and others back to work. An end to the strike might also salvage the Feb. 24 Academy Awards show, which is now facing a possible boycott by writers and sympathetic actors. The writers union has given a picket-free pass to Sunday's Grammy Awards. The Writers Guild of America and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, which represents studios, have not publicly commented on the proposed contract because of a joint media blackout. Michael Eisner, a former Walt Disney Co. chief executive, told CNBC the proposed deal was good enough to end the strike. "It's impossible the writers will turn it down," said Eisner, whose successor at Disney, Robert Iger, was among the studio chiefs who helped shape the proposal with leaders of the writers guild. The most contentious issue in the talks was residual payments for TV programs and movies distributed on the Internet. "Within the next five years, most American televisions will be connected to the Internet. The shows and movies you watch on your TV will be downloaded or streamed," the union said in its strike fact sheet. Some accounts suggest the proposed deal involving the 12,000-member union and the world's largest media companies improves on a contract agreement reached last month by studios and the Directors Guild of America. Directors won several key concessions on new media, including payments for downloaded TV programs and movies based on a percentage of the distributor's gross. The writers guild, however, has been seeking 2.5 percent of distributor grosses from Internet-delivered projects — about three times what the directors guild got in its deal. Writers also balked at the maximum $1,200 flat fee that studios agreed to pay directors for streamed, ad-supported programs. Writers won't vote Saturday on the proposed contract but will have a chance to voice their support or opposition at the closed meetings. An e-mail circulated by a strike captain urged pro-deal members to attend so union leaders wouldn't hear only from opponents. Other e-mails to guild members said a favorable response by writers would be followed by a Sunday meeting of the guild negotiating committee to consider lifting the strike order and scheduling a formal membership vote by mail. "I hope Monday is when this town gets going again," Winston said. "If it's not Monday, I'll take Wednesday." Warren Leight, an executive producer in New York for NBC's "Law & Order: Criminal Intent," doesn't think writers will be swayed by high-profile colleagues who have trumpeted the directors deal as a solid template for writers. "If the deal works, everyone is ready to go back to work. But it has to be discussed by 10,000 people, not by 30 show runners and wannabe A-listers," Leight said. Among the show runners — industry slang for executive producers in charge of a series — who lauded the directors deal was John Wells, whose credits include "ER" and "The West Wing." He termed it, "Very good. For writers, for directors, for the future." A quick end to the walkout might result in TV viewers seeing a more new episodes of their favorite shows this season. A script takes about three weeks to write and about 40 working days to produce, so it could take as long as two months for the first new shows to air, Leight said. But once a production has scripts and is up and running, episodes are worked on concurrently and an hour-long show can be produced within eight days, he said. That could allow an hourlong drama to return with perhaps a half-dozen new episodes, and a half-hour comedy to squeeze in as many as seven new shows for the rest of the season. Networks, however, are likely to pick and choose among shows, with low-rated newcomers less likely to get deals for more episodes than a series like "Grey's Anatomy," which has a big, faithful audience. |
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But that doesn't mean that they don't deserve what they're likely to get. If the shoe were on the other hand, you'd want a lot of money for creating something. Even if it is bad, it's you're creation. |
I'd say as a whole TV is better than it was 5 years ago. Reality shows aren't quite as prevalent, and at least a few of the ones on are halfway decent, like Biggest Loser.
In the mean time there are shows like Lost and Heroes now, that while they have their less than excellent episodes are still both strong shows. Terminator looks to have a lot of promise. A Fox show that looks good. Who saw that coming? I'd say my least favorite thing about TV is that BSG really is probably the best show that nobody's watching. I think it has done a great job of breaking the usual stereotypes about sci-fi shows, and had it gotten pushed harder in the beginning I think it could have done a better job of snagging a more mainstream audience. I think one of the problems is that anything with "star" in the title probably has to contend with images of Trekkies in klingon costumes. |
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And this strapping people to the lie detector show is beyond sleaze. Hard to think this is the same network that made them not air Insane in the membrane and Nightmare Recycled. Sleazey, sleazey, sleazy. I'm so glad the WGA dropped that demand. They deserve to work non-union. Quote:
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I think the temptation parts are a little too much. It kind of defeats the purpose of trying to help them, doesn't it?
I think The Biggest Loser is potentially inspiring, because it involves people who are really obese trying to get healthier. But the thing to keep in mind is that they have those people on a pretty tough regimen. I think it would probably be more inspiring to have the stories of people in real life trying to get healthier as opposed to putting them on a game show where they are going to be on this extreme plan that the average person is never going to participate in. Plus someone in real life has to be more self-disciplined because you don't have someone yelling at you, and you have to face the temptation of poor eating habits and a sedentary lifestyle all the time. |
Well, I know that Heroes probably won't be back until the fall because of the fact that it's a show with story arcs. However, I'll be happy if House gets back on the air. I know the last episode was last week, but I already miss it.
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I loved the TV Guide today, the letter someone wrote thanking the writers for going on strike, as they found so much more meaning in their lives with much more fulfilling things than watching TV. It brightened my day and made me kinda laugh. I really respect someone for coming out and saying that.
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Aaaaaand it's over!! Fin! Done!! :D
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080213/...wood_labor_108 A devastating, three-month walkout that brought the entertainment industry to a standstill ended Tuesday when Hollywood writers voted to lift their union's strike order and return to work Wednesday. The move allows some TV series to return this spring with a handful of new episodes. It also clears the way for the Academy Awards to be staged on Feb. 24 without the threat of pickets or a boycott by actors that would have dulled the glamour of Hollywood's signature celebration. "At the end of the day, everybody won. It was a fair deal and one that the companies can live with, and it recognizes the large contribution that writers have made to the industry," Leslie Moonves, chief executive officer of CBS Corp., told The Associated Press. Moonves was among the media executives who helped broker a deal after negotiations between the guild and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, which represents studios, collapsed in acrimony in December. Residuals for TV shows and movies distributed online was the most contentious issue in the bitter dispute involving the 12,000-member union and the world's largest media companies and other producers. Under a tentative contract approved Sunday by the union's board of directors, writers would get a maximum flat fee of about $1,200 for streamed programs in the deal's first two years and then get 2 percent of a distributor's gross in year three — a key union demand. Other provisions include increased residual payments for downloaded movies and TV programs. "These advances now give us a foothold in the digital age," said Patric Verrone, president of the guild's West Coast chapter. "Rather than being shut out of the future of content creation and delivery, writers will lead the way as television migrates to the Internet." Writers who voted in New York and Beverly Hills were overwhelmingly in favor of ending the strike: 3,492 voted yes, with only 283 voting to stay off the job. Most writers were happy about the outcome and eager to return to work. "It will be all hands on deck for the writing staff," said Chris Mundy, co-executive producer of CBS' drama "Criminal Minds." He hopes to get a couple of scripts in the pipeline right away, with about seven episodes airing by the end of May. Not all shows will get back on the air. Networks might not resume production of low-rated programs that have a questionable future. Sid Ganis, president of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, which stages the Oscars, expressed relief that the strike was over. "I am ecstatic that the 80th Academy Awards presentation can now proceed full steam ahead," without "hesitation or discomfort" for the nominees, he said. Writers did not vote on whether to accept the tentative deal, which was reached after a Feb. 1 breakthrough between union negotiators and studio executives. The guild will mail contract ratification ballots to members over the next few days. Writers can also vote at meetings. All ballots must be cast by Feb. 25. The walkout stopped work on dozens of TV shows, disrupted movie production and turned the usually star-studded Golden Globes show into a news conference. It also dealt a severe financial blow to a wide range of businesses dependent on work from studios. The strike took a $3.2 billion toll in direct and indirect costs on the economy of Los Angeles County, the home of most of the nation's TV and film production, according to a new estimate from Jack Kyser, chief economist for the Los Angeles Economic Development Corp. The last writers strike, a 153-day walkout in 1988, caused an estimated $500 million in lost wages. The latest strike began Nov. 5, and formal negotiations broke off Dec. 7 after the guild pushed to unionize writers on reality and animated productions. Informal talks began Jan. 23 between studio heads and the union, which extended an olive branch by withdrawing its proposal to organize reality and animated shows. It also decided against picketing the Grammy Awards. Pressure to reach an agreement mounted after the studio alliance reached a tentative contract Jan. 17 with the Directors Guild of America. That deal also brought improved payment for content offered on the Internet. Among the executives who took the lead in breaking the impasse were Peter Chernin, chief operating officer of News Corp., and Robert Iger, CEO of The Walt Disney Co. Michael R. Perry, a writer for "Persons Unknown" and other TV dramas, said the deal made him hopeful the guild and studios could be "partners in a growing pie" of Internet revenue. "I want them to be fabulously, filthy rich. I just want my piece," Perry said. Hollywood's labor pains may not be over, said Jonathan Handel, an entertainment attorney with the Los Angeles firm of TroyGould and a former associate counsel for the writers guild. He pointed out that the contract between studios and the Screen Actors Guild is due to expire in June. "The signs are mixed whether this is going to be another difficult negotiation," Handel said. "The actors face all of the new-media issues that the writers and directors faced." |
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It's a shame they will go right back to rushing home every day to watch their fave program. |
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The only show I'm waiting for to come back is Heroes. I wonder if they'll pick it up again this season or if they'll just wait until the fall.
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I heard it won't be back until the fall because of the fact that it is a multiple story arc type of show. I don't watch very much TV, but I'm glad the strike is resolved.
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From what I have been told Heroes HAS been renewed but there won't be any new eps till this fall. But it HAS been renewed at least. We just have to wait about a year for new eps. Heck 24 doesn't return till Jan 2009. :P
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I bet it's also because the shows are harder to produce than, let's say 30 Rock, My Name is Earl, or the office- all of which will return in a couple months. Now the only thing that worries me is that they still don't know if the Scrubs thing will be settled. I want to see the ending, but I sure the hell don't want to pay to watch it.
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