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Cure 03-22-2008 11:24 PM

Sonic Unleashed
 


Looks like a console version of Sonic Rush, which isn't a bad thing. The only thing is, with April Fool's Day right around the corner...

Ra 03-23-2008 03:01 AM

DUDE! That's awesome. I really hope that isn't an April Fool's joke...

Wildcat 03-23-2008 03:09 AM

You wouldnt know it here but Im a Sonic freak...I buy ever Sonic game that comes out,I even have Sonic 360.I also have a bunch of Sonic memorbilia.Been a Sonic fan since the Genesis days.

This looks amazing,fantastic,wonderful,awesome...I had tears in my eyes when I first saw it,and those graphics... :o could be the best graphics in any game period...so far.

I highly doubt its an April Fools joke,many people on other forums had said Sega was planning a new Sonic game with a new engine,plus I doubt Sega would go through all this trouble just for an April Fools joke,plus there are other screenshots that were leaked.

ThirdMarioBro 03-23-2008 05:44 AM

God, you people are gullible. I don't blame you really. Nintendo dropped Mario & Sonic at the Olympics on April Fool's Day (as in the actual day) last year, and nobody believed it until it showed up on Nintendo.com. Let's break this down.

These screens look incredibly fake. Though the designs admittedly change slightly from game to game, those images are far too articulate and don't feature a hint of Sega's current style in it whatsoever. I'm calling BS on the whole thing.

As for the video, it's easy to fake this crap. Lest I point to some of the larger fakes.







The video doesn't seem legit. The physics look wonky as hell, and there's far too many pan shots, and too little gameplay. Anybody can model convincing 3D on a sh*tty Dell notebook these days. The jumping physics look off, the running animation looks floaty and poorly synced, and the camera pans look like they're trying to sloppily imitate Sonic Rivals. If it's a fake, it's a good looking fake, but a fake nonetheless.

If you want to screw with some poor, beaten fanboy's dreams badly enough, it will happen.

Sonic in Brawl was sort of my personal farewell to the character. Sonic's a beloved character from my childhood, but the memory is so tarnished that I'm surprised I'm still able to enjoy his Brawl appearance. I guess it's all the quality that's surrounding him that helps me to forget what trash Samm....*cough*, I mean "Sega" has released since the Dreamcast. Brawl would be the perfect opportunity to ret-con the character back to something people have fond memories of, but they won't. They'll regurgitate another emo storyline starring Shadow the Hedgehog and his little buddy Sonic in some end days scenario that would make Michael Bay ROFL.

Yeah, the 360/PS3 game was pretty. Yeah, I drooled at the trailers and screens, and then I played it. I don't sell games or trade them because I feel that my judgment has always been good enough that I get some enjoyment out of whatever I buy. I sold that sucker faster than a stock trader in 1929. I've had enough. A developer can't burn someone that badly and expect to get another chance. That game was their last chance after Shadow the Hedgehog (aka one of the largest FU messages to any fanbase in recent memory).

So I'm done. I didn't buy the last Sonic game on DS, I didn't buy the last 2 farm jobs on PSP, I'm not touching Sega Superstar Tennis, and I won't touch this (if it's real, which I highly doubt) because I guarantee you that under all that shine, and CGI is a ten year old engine that is now broken after years of tampering and gameplay that is nearly unplayable due to glitches that would make Acclaim roll in it's grave.

Remember, even after all that's happened, this title is still being developed by Sonic Team. That should be enough to end the topic right there. Think of Nintendo's amazing EAD Tokyo team that made Super Mario Sunshine, Jungle Beat, and Galaxy. Nintendo was thinking of closing that development house if Galaxy didn't explode in the market like it did. Nintendo...close EAD Tokyo? EAD TOKYO? And yet Sonic Team still roams the Earth after releasing a Sonic game that couldn't crack the Top 40 at retail during Christmas shopping season on an off-year (not even mentioning the four disasters that preceded it)? How can this be?

Oh yeah, Sega doesn't give a sh*t. Nevermind. Cool, because neither do I.

*edit*

Convincing character art.

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/1299.jpg

Still calling BS, but if it's real, the whole werewolf thing made totally sure that I don't give a damn. Way to rip-off Twilight Princess assholes.

Ra 03-23-2008 06:49 AM

...way to crush our hopes and dreams, man... :cry:

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro (Post 597645)
*edit*

Convincing character art.

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/1299.jpg

Still calling BS, but if it's real, the whole werewolf thing made totally sure that I don't give a damn. Way to rip-off Twilight Princess assholes.

Twilight Princess rip? Looks more like a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde kind of a thing to me. Probably because of the setting, but oh well. More of a reason to say the thing is a fake, I guess.

SWAT_KAT_RAZOR 03-23-2008 07:04 AM

OMFGZ.. Sonic turns into Shadow. :P

Mecha Cow 03-23-2008 08:51 AM

Fake? I see no reason to believe this isn't real. There was a whole bunch of screens yesterday that look very convincing to me. Plus, there's yet another anti-Sonic (or Were-Sonic), which pretty much makes it official.

This is real, and it's going to suck, because it's Sonic.

ThirdMarioBro 03-23-2008 02:35 PM

Either way, I could care less about a Sonic game, let alone a Sega game.

愛 03-23-2008 02:59 PM

Yeah, but remember that time when you bought Sonic the Hedgehog for 360, and you didn't even beat the first level? That was a terrible move on your part. Sonic is dead!

Hannah 03-23-2008 07:07 PM

You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly, thread!

Wildcat 03-24-2008 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro (Post 597645)
The video doesn't seem legit. The physics look wonky as hell, and there's far too many pan shots, and too little gameplay. Anybody can model convincing 3D on a sh*tty Dell notebook these days. The jumping physics look off, the running animation looks floaty and poorly synced, and the camera pans look like they're trying to sloppily imitate Sonic Rivals. If it's a fake, it's a good looking fake, but a fake nonetheless.

That right there proves nothing because early game teasers are bound to have problems...and besides that none of that is even true for this trailer...it looks great all around.

As for it being an April Fools joke by Sega...thats plain rediculous...No game company has ever played an April Fools joke on the public(have they?)

As for all the Sonic haters ranting on about...OOoo Shadow and Sonic 360were terrible,I cant play Sonic games anymore because hes had a few bad games....get over it,or better yet get over yourselves.

None of what ThirdMarioBro. said has any validation...even the first video he put up is a terrible example,of course we would know 'Super Mario Universe' is fake...theres no way that could run on a Gameboy...not even a DS.

ThirdMarioBro 03-24-2008 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 597812)
None of what ThirdMarioBro. said has any validation...even the first video he put up is a terrible example,of course we would know 'Super Mario Universe' is fake...theres no way that could run on a Gameboy...not even a DS.

Hey, it's your $60. You want to spend it on a sh*tty video game? Who am I to stop you.

Wildcat 03-24-2008 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro (Post 597829)
Hey, it's your $60. You want to spend it on a sh*tty video game? Who am I to stop you.

Cool,Im glad your psychic and can tell me when a game will be bad or good waaaay before it ever releases I'll have to remember you when making my next game purchase.

Besides Sonic is not the only game series to ever have had a few bad titles in it.Even Mario has had his share of bad games,That Luigi History game on SNES,Super Mario Sunshine(personally it was ok for me but mostly everyone dislikes it and thier right for the most part) and need Imention the Virtual Boy...at least Sega has never released a console thats bad for your health :lol:

Peanut 03-24-2008 09:45 AM

TMB is just a bitter husk of a human being.

That being said, if this is real (and I'm leaning towards yes, because nearly everything TMB ever predicits is completely wrong) then I'm excited for it. I haven't enjoyed Sonic since Sonic & Knuckles, and it looks like this is heading back to the heyday of Sonic games. Just as long as it doesn't have the horrible level design and enemy placement of Sonic Rush.

Edit: More screens and artwork for the game keep popping up, and even 1up is reporting it now. I'm going to go ahead and say it's real, for now.

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Originally Posted by Wildcat
Besides Sonic is not the only game series to ever have had a few bad titles in it.Even Mario has had his share of bad games,That Luigi History game on SNES,Super Mario Sunshine(personally it was ok for me but mostly everyone dislikes it and thier right for the most part)

What kind of bullsh*t is that? You're a f*cking idiot, and that post just proved it. Even attempting to compare the utter failure of the Sonic franchise to Mario, while at the same time saying Sunshine was bad...seriously? SERIOUSLY? Lawl!

ThirdMarioBro 03-24-2008 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat
Besides Sonic is not the only game series to ever have had a few bad titles in it.Even Mario has had his share of bad games,That Luigi History game on SNES,Super Mario Sunshine(personally it was ok for me but mostly everyone dislikes it and thier right for the most part)

Everybody brings up Virtual Boy like they're trying to look all smart and make a point. Well, guess what professor? Even Virtual Boy had some good games, for what little there were. Ever heard of VB Wario Land? Awesome little game. I'm not really defending the Virtual Boy (which you've got to be pretty desperate to dig up), but I will go out and say that anything on Virtual Boy is better than Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog '06, Sonic Advance 3, or Sonic Battle. That's around $200 (not including tax) of sh*tty video games. Sonic doesn't get another free pass.

And anybody who tries to compare the Mario franchise to the dead husk that is Sonic the Hedgehog is clearly a deranged fanboy grasping for straws in an effort to self-justify spending another $60 on what is sure to be garbage.

Dr. Doom 03-24-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro (Post 597878)
And anybody who tries to compare the Mario franchise to the dead husk that is Sonic the Hedgehog is clearly a deranged fanboy grasping for straws in an effort to self-justify spending another $60 on what is sure to be garbage.

Yeah, just like that loser TMB.

Oh, wait...

愛 03-24-2008 03:24 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...HDAMNGOTEM.jpg

This is looking promising. Sonic Rush was a wonderful concept, except they messed some things up. If they clear it up in this, then they have a solid game.

Cure 03-24-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 597812)

As for it being an April Fools joke by Sega...thats plain rediculous...No game company has ever played an April Fools joke on the public(have they?)

The thing is, if it IS a joke, it wouldn't be by Sega. Just some random dude with too much time on his hands.

Wildcat 03-24-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro (Post 597878)
Everybody brings up Virtual Boy like they're trying to look all smart and make a point. Well, guess what professor? Even Virtual Boy had some good games, for what little there were. Ever heard of VB Wario Land? Awesome little game. I'm not really defending the Virtual Boy (which you've got to be pretty desperate to dig up), but I will go out and say that anything on Virtual Boy is better than Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog '06, Sonic Advance 3, or Sonic Battle. That's around $200 (not including tax) of sh*tty video games. Sonic doesn't get another free pass.

And anybody who tries to compare the Mario franchise to the dead husk that is Sonic the Hedgehog is clearly a deranged fanboy grasping for straws in an effort to self-justify spending another $60 on what is sure to be garbage.

Ok sure the Virtual Boy was a bad example,I know a few games were pretty good...but thats besides the point.What I was trying to say is that every game series has a few bad titles but it seems Sonic gets more crap for it by gamers....maybe because hes a big franchise.

I'll admit Sonic '06 and Shadow are on the bottom of the Sonic list,but alot of people liked Sonic Heroes and bringing up Sonic Advance 3 is just as bad as my Virtual Boy example...all the "Advance" game got good reviews and everyone Iv seen talk about it liked it,because its fast 2D and like the classics,I havent played Sonic Battle or are you talking about 'Sonic Adventure 2:Battle"?...which is pretty much split when it comes to how good or bad it was.Iv seen alot that like it and alot that dont...imo its good,except for the Knuckles and Rouge gem hunting leves.

愛 03-24-2008 07:27 PM

When was there a good Virtual Boy game? You mean that tennis game, and that's it? How about that ship game? That made me so goddamn nauseous after about...two minutes.

Peanut 03-24-2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 597953)
What I was trying to say is that every game series has a few bad titles but it seems Sonic gets more crap for it by gamers....maybe because hes a big franchise.

NO! The only decent thing to come out of the franchise in the last 7+ years were the first two GBA games. Every huge franchise has it's terrible spin-off titles, but Sonic has been consistently bad for years now, core titles included. There's no point in defending it, because you're wrong.

And bringing up that a lot of people liked Sonic Heroes, and Sonic Adventure 2, yet saying Sunshine is pretty much universally disliked? Shut the f*ck up, kid.

R-iZZy 03-25-2008 01:10 AM

F*ck it, I'll just come out and say I liked almost all of the handheld Sonic games that came out recently; mainly just the Sonic Advance and the Sonic Rush serieses.

I remembered renting Sonic and the Secret Rings, and turned it in the next day. That game was just annoying and atrocious. And then I later found out the one on 360 was just as bad, except it's atrocity was in high definition (yay for gameplay taking a backseat to graphics this gen). The only 3D Sonic game I actually liked was Sonic Adventure for the Dreamcast.

This new game, Sonic Unleashed, looks promising, but the one thing that sorta irks me is Sonic being a "were-hedgehog" in this game, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. I sorta have my hopes up, because I do love Sonic as well, but Sega is digging Sonic's grave right next to the Dreamcast's.

Wildcat 03-25-2008 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by R-iZZy (Post 598029)
I remembered renting Sonic and the Secret Rings, and turned it in the next day. That game was just annoying and atrocious.

Theres your problem,you hardly spent any time with it.It takes a good while before Sonic gets up to faster speeds because you have to unlock certain items,then the real fun starts.Thats whats diffrent about 'Secret Rings' it has very slight rpg elemets with the whole mixing and matching of abilaties you can equip yourself with.

Even I was frustrated at the start,I finished the whole game a little over a month after I bought it by the way :D I agree though..Sonic Adventure was the last great 3D Sonic...well up til 'Secret Rings' that is,my only problem was it was kinda short :ohwell:

The Shelf 03-25-2008 09:08 AM

For anyone who still doubts that this is a legitimate game:

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Originally Posted by Sega Europe
"Sonic the Hedgehog returns for a full-blown, action-packed adventure through the desolate and unpredictable World of Mubuz, a world dictated by an evil Dragon Lord, Immarius. Upon entering Muboz, Sonic fights an evil power which turns all the inhabitants into dangerous beasts.

-Become Wolf Sonic and fight enemies like never before using rapid combo maneuvers and Ring Energy
-Play as Sonic, Knuckles or Tails through 12 packed stages
-Extensive 2D gameplay brings the old Sonic back home"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sega On
SEGA is launching SONIC UNLEASHED with a HUGE production budget and it seems not only SONIC TEAM is involved but a very huge part of SEGA’s developer teams including those from Japan, the US and, apparently for the first time, even Europe. There seems to be one clear mission: Rebuild the Sonic brand and prove it could work in 3D environments. We also have one new artwork for you.

I for one am cautiously optimistic. Honestly, though, I haven't been this excited for a Sonic game since Sonic Adventure. And look! Sonic, Knuckles, and Tails are playable, yet no mention of Shadow, Silver, or any number of other superfluous characters. Hopefully we'll actually be able to play each character the way they were meant to be played -- the same as Sonic but with different properties. None of this hunting for emeralds crap or shooting gallery garbage. You know what else I'm excited about? Sonic Team is not in charge of this title. They're involved, but so is all the rest of Sega for once. This could be epic! But only time will tell. I only hope that Sega does not rush this to meet a deadline. If they do, then it will be an epic fail... :(

Between this and Sonic Chronicles, I have hope for the Sonic franchise for the first time in ages.

Mecha Cow 03-25-2008 09:35 AM

Every time a new Sonic game is announced people say it's going to be a 'return to form' and it never is. The old Sonic is dead and he's never coming back, so I wouldn't get my hopes up.

ThirdMarioBro 03-25-2008 01:46 PM

And every time Sega talks about a huge production budget, all the money goes straight to the opening and ending FMV videos. All the bugs are left for the players to sort through, and if we complain enough they might patch five of them.

Sorry Sega, you're not getting me this time.

Cure 03-25-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecha Cow (Post 598081)
Every time a new Sonic game is announced people say it's going to be a 'return to form' and it never is.

That's true. Sonic Heroes was supposed to go back cuz of it's "quick" team changing mechanic. Sonic 360 was so sure it would be good like the old days, they even gave it the name "Sonic the Hedgehog". Secret Rings was supposed to keep it fast, but it just got annoying.

EDIT:

Looks like TMB might be right about the end of days scenario.

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmaster...013_21_big.jpg

Dr. Doom 03-25-2008 04:41 PM

Did somebody say Wolf? I'M THERE! LoL

The game looks interesting. As always, I'm willing to at least wait to discover more about it before I make any sort of final judgement on it.

Wildcat 03-25-2008 08:16 PM

Even though I said alot of people didnt really like 'Sunshine'...I said it was ok for me,and yes it may seem Sonic has been consistantly bad for awhile now but most Sonic games lately have been spinoffs,like Shadow and Riders 1 and 2.Sonic '06 was the only core title that was bad,before the last core Sonic title was Sonic Adventure 2 Battle..and even that was a port from the DC which if youve botherd to visist other sites youd see alot of people do like it(except for the gem hunting).

Sonic Heroes is a hit or miss,really depends on each persons personal opinion...it was ok for me,I didnt really like the character switching.Iv already said what I had to say about 'Secret Rings' above...so there ya go ;)

Krang 03-26-2008 02:06 AM

Thread cleaned up and reopened. We'll give it one more chance before it is locked permanently. This time, let's please focus on discussing the game and related topics instead of resorting to personal attacks. And please, lay off the baiting and the angry, long-winded rants that have nothing to do with the topic. People who get that upset over an online message board obviously have mental issues of their own that they should sort out before accusing others of the same.

Anyway, although I've been disappointed with the Sonic series lately, it sounds like Sega may be taking a step in the right direction with this one if they really are reducing the cast to the 3 main characters. Now if they put less effort into adding stupid storylines and pointless FMVs and more effort into the gameplay itself, this game might be worth playing. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out.

Ra 03-26-2008 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom (Post 598147)
The game looks interesting. As always, I'm willing to at least wait to discover more about it before I make any sort of final judgement on it.

I'm just going to wait as well. Despite the Sega whipping a dead horse, I do feel like that this might be a chance to actually get a good Sonic game out and about again. I doubt it, but that won't stop me from watching the development of the thing. The video looked promising, at least.

ThirdMarioBro 03-26-2008 04:50 AM

Alright, since people want to be optimistic about this, I'll say something nice. I give them no faith in making another decent game in the once hallowed halls of Sega, but I do give their character artists credit for one thing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...onic_retro.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...oBro/Sonic.jpg

Sonic Unleashed on left, Sonic '06 on right. They finally got him looking correct in 3D with a big head, feet, hands, and tiny body. That's like the old-school Sonic done right in 3D; low on detail, high on personality.

It's not much, but it's something.

poiuytre 03-26-2008 12:46 PM

I don't know why Sonic The Hedgehog PS3 had such a bad rep. Yeah, it had some minor flaws here and there but no game is perfect. I for one enjoyed it a lot, especially how they made it serious. Deep story with lots of cool plottwists, lively dialogue and even some romance. We can only hope the story of Unleashed will be as good, but having seen the artwork of the wolf form, I think it's safe to assume it's going to be very interesting. :)

I also read this on gonintendo:
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The Sonic GBA titles, along with Sonic Rush, are all excellent examples of classic Sonic gameplay, in my opinion. If this latest rumor is to be believed, good things are in-store for Unleashed. Hell, the rumors have run so far now, I might as well go with the little bits I find! Word is, Sonic Unleashed runs on the same ‘gameplay system’ or ‘engine’ as Sonic Rush…however you want to describe it.
Hype +10 :D

Keep up the good work, Sonic.

Hannah 03-26-2008 07:44 PM

Sonic is great. No Sonic game was bad, ever. There's never even been a bad video game, ever! I love video games! This is going to rule! Werehogs! Alright!

Wildcat 03-26-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by poiuytre (Post 598341)
I don't know why Sonic The Hedgehog PS3 had such a bad rep. Yeah, it had some minor flaws here and there but no game is perfect. I for one enjoyed it a lot, especially how they made it serious. Deep story with lots of cool plottwists, lively dialogue and even some romance. We can only hope the story of Unleashed will be as good, but having seen the artwork of the wolf form, I think it's safe to assume it's going to be very interesting. :)

I also read this on gonintendo:

Hype +10 :D

Keep up the good work, Sonic.

Well I didnt think it was great,but I do agree Sonic PS3/360 is enjoyable once you get used too the minor flaws.Biggest issue with gamers seems to be the contol,which yes its somewhat more stiff than the "Adventure" games but you have to learn how it works.Load times is the second biggest issue which yes theres not really an excuse for it since its on PS3/360 but the load times dont effect the gameplay so thats good.

The Shelf 03-27-2008 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hannah (Post 598415)
There's never even been a bad video game, ever!

Ahahahaha! That's a good one. ^_^

I'm happy that Sega is finally doing a 2.5D Sonic game on a console for the first time. I just hope the gameplay is more interactive than Sonic Rush because playing Sonic Rush is like watching a gameplay video except you have to press the jump button every once in a while. It's pretty to look at, but not much fun to play. Hopefully they'll have a 2-player mode reminiscent of Sonic 2. Seriously, Sega has yet to top the 2-player experience that Sonic 2 had, imo.

ThirdMarioBro 03-27-2008 09:30 PM

Sonic Rush was a racing game. There was no level design. Just hold the turbo button and jump from time to time. It sucked. Balls.

Peanut 03-28-2008 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by poiuytre (Post 598341)
I don't know why Sonic The Hedgehog PS3 had such a bad rep. Yeah, it had some minor flaws here and there but no game is perfect. I for one enjoyed it a lot, especially how they made it serious. Deep story with lots of cool plottwists, lively dialogue and even some romance. We can only hope the story of Unleashed will be as good, but having seen the artwork of the wolf form, I think it's safe to assume it's going to be very interesting.

I don't know if this is a joke post...or...what?

Cure 03-29-2008 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 598885)
I don't know if this is a joke post...or...what?

it has to be! why else would game infarcer makre game informer every april?! cuz they rock my penis off! can i say penis?! don't be mad krang! i love your pink braniyn gelatinous seflf! no one can do it like you! gimme head! edit! just kiddinfg.

poiuytre 03-29-2008 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 598885)
I don't know if this is a joke post...or...what?

I don't know if you've heard, but it is possible for people to like things that others don't. I'd appreciate it if you tried to respect other opinions instead of trying to belittle them, even if you don't agree with them.


http://www.x-cult.org/newsx/fullnews.php?id=165
Not sure if it has been posted but Sonic Cult has got a better quality version of the teaser video. :D If you ask me, this is certainly shaping up to be one of the most promising titles of this generation.


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