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Wizard's top 200 characters
Anyone who reads Wizard Magazine must've read their list of the top 200 comic characters ever created. Luckily, Raph made it on the list (I can't remember what number he was, but hey, someone from the TMNT universe made it on the list!). The reason I'm posting this, however, is because of my rage at the fact that Wolverine was ranked number 1.
Now, I like Logan as much as the next guy, I do. I think he's a great character and I like him a lot. But to say he's better than Spider-Man, Batman and Superman? What the hell is that about? I would definetly put him in the top 10, sure. But listing him as the single greatest character ever created in the history of comics? Lame. But anyone who reads Wizard knows that the staff is primarily made up of Wolverine fanboys, so I think a heavy dose of bias was in play. I mean, when Wolverine is on pratically every cover (or at least every other), and ridiculous articles are dedicated to him, such as asking comic creators who would win in a fight, Wolverine or every other f'n character in comics today, it's a sure bet that theses donkeys would make Wolverine #1. Maybe if a TMNT fanboy like myself was on the staff, maybe I'd get Raph to be #2. |
57. Usagi Yojimbo
111. Raphael And yea, have to agree with Wolverine at #1 being lame. |
Did they simply rank them, or did they give a little info on their choices? I'd love to see what they said about Raphael.
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I miss reading Wizard...
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Where did the only comic character outside of the TMNT universe that I can still stand, Hellboy, rank?
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Here's the full list, I didn't write it myself, found it elsewhere. Spoiler:
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That list is ludicrous. Some characters (Snake-Eyes, Cobra Commander) aren't even technically comic characters, but are characters that appeared in comics. And I had to Google number six to find out who he was.
I am happy with Hellboy's spot, that wish that Usagi and Raph would have placed at least in the top 20. |
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The fact that Jason Todd is even on the least makes me disregard its credibility. Also Deadpool should have been in the Top 10
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(I jest... I don't even know enough about that comic to judge #6). |
Rorschach is on the list because not only is he from an Alan Moore comic, The Watchmen, that's won tons of awards, some for being the best Graphic Novel of all time, but there's a movie being made currently based off the comic.
I'm a bit baffled "The Maxx" is nowhere to be found on there and that "Howard The Duck" is even on the list. |
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I wonder what makes Raph so damn superior to his brothers, tho'. |
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Raph shoulda been #1 but ya know I'm biased. :P
Raph was 111 I think. At least he made it. Quote:
Cos he's the coolest badass and most interesting :P LOL |
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Exactly. Raphael is just that badass, deal with it. |
Besides the obvious move of putting Raphael and Usagi in the Top 10, the only thing I'd change from what I read of that list would be to put Wolverine right underneath the Joker. I'd think about moving Superman down a bit out of personal opinion, but he's too much of a classic for me to rightfully do so.
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Hmm... come to think of it, this rank is terribly American-centered. Barely any European or Japanese characters are present. |
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It's all right, though. It's not like a lot of American characters get on Japanese comic lists. |
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But hey. The Tick got in at 187 or something. That's good, I suppose. |
why is moon knight's butler not on that list? rage rage rage
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Spider-Man should be above Batman.
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I second that. Asterix and Obelix was the first non-Garfield comic I fell in love with as a kid. They've been translated into every single language you could think of, published Everywhere, heck made into animated AND Live Action movies... How could they Not get a mention in this? It's a crime....
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Wolverine at number 1?! WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?! :x
I really don't think this list was handled well at all. It's like they went "lol lets just put the most recognisable characters ever in the top 5". At least Joker and Hellboy managed to get into the top 10, which makes me smile. But Morphus and Death getting outranked by Kittie Pryde? *insert melodramatic action here* Ah well. |
Why do they bother to make lists like this? It's totally subjective. Just because they're the ones with the publishing power? Feh.
Granted, if you go by what sells, what's popular, that's one thing. But trying to rank by coolness, or bad ass-ness, or complexity of character...I just don't see how that's possible. No one would agree with their list. It'd be like trying to order one pizza to suit several people. Odds are everyone won't agree. And yes, Raph should be #1. :tthumbsu: But that's just my 2ยข. |
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Ninja Turtles > Batman > Spiderman only by a small margine by each though. love all 3
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and yes i agree that book was amazing cant wait for the movie |
Spider-Man's credibility is quite minimal these days. The MC2 continuity is the only "real" Spidey universe with any dignity left in it.
Superman is solid once more thanks Geoff Jones' phonemenal work on Action Comics, restoring the majesty and spirit of the character. Logan? Meh, he's going to sink Marvel at this rate with how overexposed he is, there was a time I could read Wovlerine in the 1990s, now all I read are pages and pages of Wolvie chanting "PIKKKAAAACHUUUU" |
Wolverine is a decent character, but number 1? If it was a beer-drinking contest, maybe...
I know I'm biased, but I do not care. Superman is number one by default if you ask any UNbiased person who is even remotely aware of comics and super-heroes. Simple reason: Without Superman, every other character that we know in comics either never would have existed, or would have been drastically different. Maybe we'd all be reading pulp and western comics, and The Shadow or Billy the Kid would be number one. But no, Superman's creation built the foundation for every single thing to follow in super-hero comics. It's like showing props to Elvis as an entertainer, or Einstein for the theory of relativity: No matter what you think about 'em individually, take away what they accomplished and you're left with nothing. Without Elvis white people would still be rocking out to Mozart, and without Einstein, Don King would have a normal haircut. Superman inspired a billion imitators in the comic book field and the character created the super-hero genre more or less. Thus, it's not even a discussion IMO: Superman at number one, Batman at number two, and everything past that is all just subjective. I do enjoy lists, though...:P |
I'm not a big fan of these lists. Everyone is going to have their own personal list, trying to come up with just one supposedly "definite" list seems kind of pointless. I'm not saying reviews are irrelevant because everyone has different tastes, but ranking stuff doesn't seem right a lot of the time.
Plus different characters in that list fit in all different kinds of stories sometimes, so I don't get how they can be compared. If they were going to make lists, at least separate the superhero characters from the non-superhero characters. |
That list is absolute rubbish.
First, I'm going to have to agree with Leo that Superman should be #1 for all the reasons he stated. Second, some of those listed characters aren't all that interesting or creative. I'm glad to see a TMNT character on the list. But Raph? Come on... since when did being emo become cool? I would have put either Leonardo for being the top dog and TMNT poster boy, or Michelangelo for his legacy in the 80s tv series. And as for most interesting ninja Turtle, I'd give that to Donatello. That guy is deep. More so than alot of people realize. |
Necroposting woooooooo
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WTF? I just noticed the dates. hahaha!
Oh man... and I thought this was new. |
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Heh yeah sorry, I almost never get on anymore... just digging up dirt where I can, heh....
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Actually, looking now at the dates of some of the threads in this section, if you found this thread on the first page, then no, I wouldn't call it necroposting.
This is just not a very active section it seems. |
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eep!
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eh, this list isn't that bad. Wolverine shouldn't be #1 maybe behind the top 3. But they left out a few I wished was up there.
Any TMNT, and maybe Shredder. It might be my bias, But I think they should all be considered. Maybe we should just be glad a Turtle even made it. Gambit. Left him out for whatever reason, and I don't know why considering how popular he is. Lucifer Iceman Archangel Doomsday The Phantom Kevin Thanos The Ronin V Martian Manhunter Brainiac And if they include G.I. Joes then why not Transformers? That's it for now. Maybe I'll think of some others. |
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