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Raph's Girl 07-17-2008 12:38 PM

Tales of the TMNT 48
 
Just a heads up that midtowncomics.com is listing Tales 48 as coming out Wednesday July 23rd.

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“The Decider ” - a brutal crime wave wrecks havoc upon the streets of Springfield, Massachusetts and all evidence points to the perpetrators as being giant turtles! Leo, Don, Raph, Mike, Casey Jones and Master Splinter struggle to solve the vicious robberies and find the real mastermind behind the crime wave before the TMNT are revealed by the local media!

TristanHuwJones 07-17-2008 01:07 PM

I have a story in the back of this too! Art by Kennon James!:D

JAkeBlack 07-17-2008 01:21 PM

This issue is my apparent TMNT comics swan song. I will still be involved in a couple other projects during the 25th anniversary, but no more comics...I hope you guys like this final issue...

PAAATE 07-17-2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JAkeBlack (Post 622361)
This issue is my apparent TMNT comics swan song. I will still be involved in a couple other projects during the 25th anniversary, but no more comics...I hope you guys like this final issue...

WHAA...!?

I hope I like it too :|

Roseangelo 07-17-2008 05:41 PM

I hear this issue has the BEST pinup art EVAR! :D

I was afraid it would be coming out during Comic-Con... mebbe I can find one on the Convention floor somewhere.

TristanHuwJones 07-17-2008 06:01 PM

Yeah! I heard the pin-up kicks all kinds of ass!

Buffy 07-18-2008 12:57 AM

Oooo...intrigued I am :)

Tinuvielsdreams 07-18-2008 04:18 PM

well I know I will be getting it, just late like always because I had to remain faithful to my old comic store from my hometown. They mail me comics every 2-3 months so I am always behind, but looking forward to seeing it guys

Ninjinister 07-18-2008 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 622340)
Just a heads up that midtowncomics.com is listing Tales 48 as coming out Wednesday July 23rd.

"The Decider"? Come on now, that's got to be a jab at Bush.

VaughnMichael 07-23-2008 09:56 PM

Pretty good story, I hope we get more things that take place during volume 2.
the new villian wasn't much of a threat though and sort of was generic in a random old comic book villians sort of way.
I do enjoy the fact that Splinter is around though and how Casey helped out.
Does anyone else think that anything will come about of the little Leonardo chess piece that wasn't destroyed with the others?
Hmm I wonder if that's what really happend to Leo during Blind Sight.

Oddly enough I loved the short story in the back! The art was killer and a very welcome change and even though I hate that they are having the foot mystics suddenly look as they do in the 2k3 show in the comics it was cool to see who was being that evil shaddow.

Congrats to Tokka for having his art in the pinup section even though I think personally it just doesnt translate very well into black and white and he should have sent in a straight black and white inked drawing.

Ninjinister 07-23-2008 10:15 PM

Come on, you know the drill. I won't get to read this issue until Jesus comes back from the grave again and pays me the $20 he owes me, so make with the spoilers!

VaughnMichael 07-23-2008 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The S (Post 623430)
Come on, you know the drill. I won't get to read this issue until Jesus comes back from the grave again and pays me the $20 he owes me, so make with the spoilers!

Or you just just not read the thread.
If you are having trouble finding tales issues S my comic shop gets more than just my copy now so let me know.

TristanHuwJones 07-23-2008 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VaughnMichael (Post 623426)
Oddly enough I loved the short story in the back! The art was killer and a very welcome change and even though I hate that they are having the foot mystics suddenly look as they do in the 2k3 show in the comics it was cool to see who was being that evil shaddow.

Thanks V! Kennon dominated this one! I actually wanted it to play out without dialogue, but it's there now ( :ohwell: :lol: )! Out of curiosity, how would you rather see, or how would you imagine the mystics look?

VaughnMichael 07-23-2008 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones (Post 623438)
Thanks V! Kennon dominated this one! I actually wanted it to play out without dialogue, but it's there now ( :ohwell: :lol: )! Out of curiosity, how would you rather see, or how would you imagine the mystics look?

You're welcome I wish it was a bit longer, the new blood that works on the series is always welcome by me because the ideas are fresh and new.
I'd like to see the Mystics look as they did in the other tales of tmnt issues mostly the first few times they are introduced to us in the series.
I also sort of hate that design they looks like clam heads lol.

Andrew NDB 07-24-2008 12:23 AM

More good fun, would seem perfectly at home in Volume 2.

I enjoyed the issue and the rather visceral backup... I like Tristan bringing up Leonardo having to take out Saki because Raphael couldn't as a hot-button for Raph, in particular.

What an unexpected pinup! Fantastic seeing Tokka's work in print, even though you just know he's got an even better colorized version stashed away.

TristanHuwJones 07-24-2008 12:24 AM

I think the Mystics you're referring to are the three from Murph's stories aren't they? The one's from Quick and the Dead and The Seed (I think that's the title, Vol.2 #2). I know there was another in the Shredder Shark story... I guess they never really had a uniform look...

I kinda dig the clamshell look though! Have you ever seen the Lone Wolf and Cub movies? They remind me of some of the assassins from those films.

Something worth noting, I'd originally written the Mystic in as Splinter, and it was like a personalised, tough-love training that Splinter had arranged ala Leo in Blindsight. We changed it to the Mystic as it was perhaps a little too ambiguous with such a small story.

Andrew NDB 07-24-2008 12:27 AM

No, I liked it as the Mystic. The conclusion -- as such -- gave a genuine payoff, where if it had just been Splinter, it'd be more of a "Oh, har-har, just Splinter screwing with Raph" thing.

TristanHuwJones 07-24-2008 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 623449)
No, I liked it as the Mystic. The conclusion -- as such -- gave a genuine payoff, where if it had just been Splinter, it'd be more of a "Oh, har-har, just Splinter screwing with Raph" thing.

True, but I suppose it's open to interpretation, as we've never really seen Splinter screw with anyone outside of Leo in Blindsight. But I do feel the same as you, once we made the decision to move on to the mystic, I felt substantially better about the story. It might even play a part in something bigger down the road... ;)

Going back on to Tokka's pinup - I thought it was sick to see it there! Admittedly, having seen the colour version, it does lose a little in the translation, but it was still really awesome to have there!

And being a fan of villains, I really dug having a new villain thrown in the TMNT mix with a solid story to boot! It's a pity Jake's decided to move on :(

VaughnMichael 07-24-2008 08:28 AM

Yeah I like that it was a mystic I don't think I'd have liked splinter playing with Raph the dude gets enough crap.
I've never seen that movie no so I can't say I've seen what you're talking about.
I just think it bothers me because like out of nowhere we now get these guys who came about from the new cartoon running amok in the comics.

Ninjinister 07-24-2008 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by VaughnMichael (Post 623434)
Or you just just not read the thread.

Um... huh?

(Boots up VIC-20)

(Inserts the above sentence into the BASIC prompt)

VIC-20: ?Syntax Error?

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Originally Posted by VaughnMichael
If you are having trouble finding tales issues S my comic shop gets more than just my copy now so let me know.

It's not finding copies that's the problem, it's that my CBG for whatever reason, doesn't get the issues until months later. Issue 46 just came in two weeks ago. And for whatever reasons, except for the movie prequels/adaptation, this is only true for TMNT comics.

VaughnMichael 07-24-2008 09:30 AM

sorry was a typo, I ment or you could simply just not come into a thread that's about an issue that you have yet to read that is obviously going to have spoilers.
It's like setting yourself up for it because you know it's out and others want to discuss it.

Ninjinister 07-24-2008 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by VaughnMichael (Post 623503)
sorry was a typo, I ment or you could simply just not come into a thread that's about an issue that you have yet to read that is obviously going to have spoilers.
It's like setting yourself up for it because you know it's out and others want to discuss it.

I'm confused.

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....make with the spoilers!
Make with the... means to proceed with.

I WANT spoilers! I don't understand why every time I request them in a thread, someone thinks I'm complaining about spoilers <.<

VaughnMichael 07-24-2008 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The S (Post 623509)
I'm confused.


Make with the... means to proceed with.

I WANT spoilers! I don't understand why every time I request them in a thread, someone thinks I'm complaining about spoilers <.<

Because you're saying hey watch out don't post them in the open, but then you go and read then when they are hidden behind a spoiler tag, what the heck is the point of hidding them if you're just going to read them anyway.

Ninjinister 07-24-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by VaughnMichael (Post 623510)
Because you're saying hey watch out don't post them in the open, but then you go and read then when they are hidden behind a spoiler tag, what the heck is the point of hidding them if you're just going to read them anyway.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm asking for someone to write some spoilers so I know what's going on. Everything presented in this thread thus far is too vague. What exactly is "The Decider" doing that's so evil? Who is he? Where do the Foot Mystics come in? Where does the chess board come into play? What is Casey's role? Exactly who is Splinter "screwing with" and why?

VaughnMichael 07-24-2008 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The S (Post 623514)
That's not what I'm saying. I'm asking for someone to write some spoilers so I know what's going on. Everything presented in this thread thus far is too vague. What exactly is "The Decider" doing that's so evil? Who is he? Where do the Foot Mystics come in? Where does the chess board come into play? What is Casey's role? Exactly who is Splinter "screwing with" and why?

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooo
Now I get what you're saying sorry! lol

Ninjinister 07-24-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by VaughnMichael (Post 623517)
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooo
Now I get what you're saying sorry! lol

Did you confuse my request for spoilers with spoiler tags like someone did last week? :lol:

If I'm not going to watch/read/play something right away, I can read spoilers for it without it bothering me. Like how I know what happens in Hellboy II, but I'm still going to see it tomorrow and most likely enjoy it approximately as much as if I didn't know. Or how I watched all of the FMVs of Metal Gear Solid 4, despite not having even touched a PS3 since December, and I'm fine knowing the story beforehand.

VaughnMichael 07-24-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The S (Post 623518)
Did you confuse my request for spoilers with spoiler tags like someone did last week? :lol:

Yep, I did take it that way because it happens allot around here and people whine allot around there here parts.

Ninjinister 07-24-2008 11:50 AM

(Puts a sticky note on a 'Drome wall)

The S + spoilers = GOOD

(Puts another one up)

Spoiler request =/= Spoiler tag request

Evenstar227 07-24-2008 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The S
The S + spoilers = GOOD

Here's some spoilers for ya:

Spoiler:
The story opens with scenes of shadowy (turtley?) figures committing crimes in Springfield, NH. The narrator says he is the one causing the crimes to be committed...and he is "The Decider" (he then proceeds to say that umpteen million times throughout the story, leading me to wonder if he's Cryin' Hound's long lost brother or something). Next we see the Turtles chillin' at the farm. Raph & Mike are watching the news, when a live report of the mayor of Springfield commenting on the recent crime spree comes on. He mentions that it's likely the alleged giant turtles are merely costumes, but shows some convenience store footage showing what looks like the boys in trench coats, threatening the store clerk with their weapons. Needless to say, everyone is nonplussed.

The Turtles go to Springfield to find out who is framing them, and who knows about them. They are on the rooftop of the building across from the recently robbed convenience store, when all of a sudden Mikey throws Raph off the roof, jumps down, and starts fighting him. Don turns on Leo. Splinter and Casey followed the Turtles there, Splinter saying he had seen something in their eyes (I guess it worried him). They proceed to break up the fights, and, realizing someone is exerting outside influence, head back to the farm to figure it out.

I can't remember what exactly happens here, but basically Splinter & Casey are talking and when Casey goes into the other room to serve food, he finds the Turtles have vamoosed. Splinter says they have to go to Springfield to fetch them.

The Turtles rob a bank, clad in their snazzy trench coats, and hoof it to city hall, secretly followed by Splinter & Casey. Casey thinks they should stop the Turtles from robbing the bank, but Splinter says it would be a better idea to find out who's controlling them. It turns out the mayor is controlling them via some sort of freaky voodoo mind control. It was by chance that he discovered their unique minds & bodies. He mentions how he controlled people's minds in order to win votes to get into office. However, some minds he just can't control; for instance the chief of police. He tells the Turtles to go home and get some sleep, for tomorrow night they will kill the chief.

Back at the farm, Splinter reveals what is going on, and proceeds to teach the boys how to focus their thoughts and keep the Decider from taking control. One night of practice doesn't seem to be enough, though, because the next evening they're staking out the police station, despite Casey's attempt to stop them by telling them to remember their training. Leo overhears a cop or someone say "case", which jogs his memory of Casey, which breaks the Decider's control over him. He quickly snaps the others out of it, and they form a plan.

The Turtles go to the Decider and tell him the chief is dead. The Decider dismisses them, and calls the news for an announcement. He says, on live TV, that the chief of police has been killed. At that point the chief rolls out and accuses the mayor of being unfit to hold office. The mayor runs back to his office and finds the Turtles there. He's happy to see them, and commands "sword turtle" to kill the chief for real, and "numchuk turtle" to do something else (I can't remember, but it's funny he said "numchuk"). The Turtles are like, up yours, and destroy the chess board. Raph's on the verge of reaming him a new one, when the police arrive, and they take the mayor away. The Turtles had called the police station and set up the deception. The last we see of the former mayor of Springfield, he is googly-eyed and babbling about giant turtles.

The chess board is what the Decider had in his office, and there were pieces shaped like the Turtles. I don't think there were any other pieces, and no significance to their placement or movement.


Everyone, feel free to add/correct details if I forgot anything or got it wrong. I'm just going from memory, as I don't have the ish in front of me.

Ninjinister 07-24-2008 12:54 PM

My goodness, that's a hell of a story; sounds like a good one.

I have a concern though...

Spoiler:
Why couldn't the chief be controlled? The Turtles are supposed to be strong of will, but they were easily manipulated. Why is the chief special, I wonder....?

Andrew NDB 07-24-2008 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VaughnMichael (Post 623503)
sorry was a typo, I ment or you could simply just not come into a thread that's about an issue that you have yet to read that is obviously going to have spoilers.
It's like setting yourself up for it because you know it's out and others want to discuss it.

I'm a little confused and I feel like I missed something here. Reading his original post, wasn't The S asking us to post spoilers?

DrSpengler 07-24-2008 01:20 PM

"The Decider" was kinda meh. It wasn't bad by any means, just felt a bit mediocre and inconsequential. I wish Tales would implement some more story arcs or at least follow up on more of the threads that it's already planted.

That's why I liked Tristan's "One Shadow" story better, since even as a back-up, it still followed up on the thread about the Foot Mystics assaulting the Turtles.

Plus...it didn't have any Lawson art. :ohwell:

Evenstar227 07-24-2008 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 623540)
"The Decider" was kinda meh. It wasn't bad by any means, just felt a bit mediocre and inconsequential. I wish Tales would implement some more story arcs or at least follow up on more of the threads that it's already planted.

That's why I liked Tristan's "One Shadow" story better, since even as a back-up, it still followed up on the thread about the Foot Mystics assaulting the Turtles.

Plus...it didn't have any Lawson art. :ohwell:

I liked One Shadow better, too, though Lawson's art was better in this issue. I loved how
Spoiler:
Raph had to face the shadowed embodiment of his feelings, like feeling 2nd best compared to Leo.


One question: Why did Raph drop his sai at the end?

AND kudos to tOkKa for the pinup! Too bad it was in B&W. :tsad:

Ninjinister 07-24-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 623539)
I'm a little confused and I feel like I missed something here. Reading his original post, wasn't The S asking us to post spoilers?

I did indeed. Apparently, some individuals around here use the term "spoiler" as a synonym for "spoiler tag", and that has created confusion twice in the last two weeks.

VaughnMichael 07-24-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 623539)
I'm a little confused and I feel like I missed something here. Reading his original post, wasn't The S asking us to post spoilers?

I thought he ment to post inside spoiler tags like many people do when they enter a thread where they know there's going to be spoilers anyway and yet the come into them and get all p1ssy about anyway.
What's so hard to understand about that?
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Originally Posted by The S (Post 623545)
I did indeed. Apparently, some individuals around here use the term "spoiler" as a synonym for "spoiler tag", and that has created confusion twice in the last two weeks.

That's not the reason for me, I typed what I had to say about the issue came and saw your comment and I'm so used to almost everyone whining or complaing about something or other around here I thought you where bitching about me posting what I thought and that I spoiled it for you.
It's because I skimmed over what you said more so than slang terms.

Ninjinister 07-24-2008 04:07 PM

In my book, no harm, no foul. Everything's wrapped up now, I got what I requested, and now I can go home happy.

Andrew NDB 07-24-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VaughnMichael (Post 623559)
What's so hard to understand about that?

Oh, nothing. It just seemed like there wasn't a whole lot of mystery to his original post.

I should've looked further into the page and I would've seen things had already been made clear, though.

VaughnMichael 07-24-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The S (Post 623562)
In my book, no harm, no foul. Everything's wrapped up now, I got what I requested, and now I can go home happy.

Indeed to you and andrew :)
And like I said before if you or anyone else needs help finding tales issues sooner let me know.

JAkeBlack 07-30-2008 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The S (Post 622618)
"The Decider"? Come on now, that's got to be a jab at Bush.

Check my blog at jakeblack.com for the details on that...

tOkKa 07-30-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones (Post 623459)
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Going back on to Tokka's pinup - I thought it was sick to see it there! Admittedly, having seen the colour version, it does lose a little in the translation, but it was still really awesome to have there!

-->> Quick notes and thank yous.

Just got the book .. killer and surprising stories ..both of em.

I owe this one to you guys who have always believed in me even when i never believed in myself. I know it's a little project .. but there has been so much hard worked pumped into it, heart and soul and 17 years in th emaking of me trying to find where the f7ck i belong on the crazy planet.

I owe you guys so much thanks for your love and support. Really.. things are really surreal right now.

Also to Dario and Jake .. it was an honor to meet you so much !! God.. i am still in shock.

Trist.. dammit i hope i get to meet you in person so bad now too !! And cross my fingers our paths will cross again so i may actually one day work with you guys. I should be so lucky and honoured.

Again, for all the love you guys have shown me.. liking my work or not, the constructive crits .. and the support shown me when i've hit ground zero here and some other TMNT haunts.. it's been beyond anything this 'crazy ***' has ever deserved. So .. i'm just like f7ckin' " WOW " .. when i say i love you guys.. i mean it !!

Also.. for the record.. back when i was in and just following my tenier at Cartooning School in the 1990s
.. i pretty much worked 70 % of the time in black and white and relatively non-digitally.

..The ' Terrorpin ' piece IS GRAYSCALE !! And minimal digital.. very minimal !!

There was no colour !! Basically taking me back to my little known roots.



The progression of this piece and all concepts for her can be found on this thread ..
@ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...ighlight=tokka

..not that it matters ..

but anyway ..

no matter what you think of me.. thank you so much.

There are more surprises in the near future !!

>v<


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