Official Episode Discussion: "Something Wicked"
 

Greetings one and all...!

It's been a couple years, but we've finally got some new shows to enjoy starring our favorite mutants! Let the Teasers Begin!!!



The beginning of this season has proven to be a bitter pill for some to swallow, while others have embraced the show and new plotlines...

We've seen the new Viral Shredder worm her way through our present day internet. We've seen our Mechanical Mr. Belvedere get sucked into the present with the Turtles and Splinter. Donatello's struggle to stop Viral resulting in the fragmentation of our favorite furry father. And many have resisted the collective urge to smack Mike upside his head for how he was last week. (But let's not get into that debate again...)

But at the end of last week's episode, We saw a glimmer of hope. Or maybe a pixel... through Donatello's frantic setup of technology (and enough electrical equipment to dim the entire eastern seaboard), the spinning CGI (Computer Ghost Image?) of our beloved Master Splinter made a desperate plea to his sons for his rescue.

Which brings us to this week!! Let us first turn to the sagely description provided by our higher powers (who actually get Paid for this stuff!)

"The turtles journey into cyberspace to save as much of Master Splinter as they can find."

Obviously... not your most elaborate description. Like, Not at All.

So they try to gather up their father's digi-bits before his bytes get overwritten by some 20-something that's downloading porn while living in his parents' basement.

What great technological wonders will Donatello whip out for this week?
- A fishnet
- A souped-up dust buster with a memory stick in the handle?
- Perhaps a Dyson vacuum with a REALLY fine Hepa filter? (Dealing with that fur's gonna be a disaster..)
- Or even a Ghostbuster style backpack with all sorts of plasma shooting amplifying thingamajiggers?

Who knows. Heck, Don could plug Splinter's info into Serling's body and put a lil screen on his chest for us to see Splinter's face on a screen. The question being: Where do you plug it in, and where does Splinter get shot out?

Talk about Awkward..

*starts to sing "Deep Inside of You..."*


Anyways... after a week of debate, it all comes down to those important questions:
WILL THEY BE ABLE TO LOCATE THEIR FATHER'S GHOST IN CYBERSPACE?!
WILL DONATELLO BE ABLE TO PUSH ASIDE HIS GUILT AND USE THIS TIME TO SHINE?!
HOW IS MASTER KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN GOING TO FACTOR INTO THIS?!
WHY ARE YOU USING ALL CAPS AGAIN, DAMMIT?!


You know what to do... ;)

STAY TUNED!!!!!!


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Ok but not the best of the bunch so far
 

The intro wasn't as good as last weeks, and this episode seems a bit more childish than others but perhaps I'm the only one seeing this.
Can't honestly say I care for the cyber world stuff so far, I don't think that they will take it to it's fullest potential.
I do like how the turtles look in the cyber world though with the black skin and circuit lines on their bodies.
I think i enjoy how they look more before the got the cybernaught outfits, but I'm fine with it all the same.
I enjoy the back story of how Ch'rell's thoughts got saved on the Foots systems.
And I'd also like to point out that he said He took over Viral's body so it's pretty much still her but she's just possessed by this being.
I'm also guessing the last time they saved his minds thoughts was the time they cloned his body as he didn't know about all the stuff that happened on the rocket and being stuck on the asteroid.
Did anyone else roll their eyes or grumble at the racing part? That seriously had me going ugh, I also didn't expect Leo to join in I'd expect him go guys come on even before Don did.
That huge blast Cyber Shredder did while Donatello was saving Splinters parts was amazing!
I seriously didn't expect such a blast, it's like he's got Viral's powers now plus his own.
I seriously have to say I'm very tired of Mikey being the butt of every joke, let something dumb happen to another turtles already, like oh maybe Leo.
I thought this episode was pretty ok not the best but not the worst, I'm impressed by Cyber Shredder so far and I'm interested enough in it all to keep watching.
I just sort of felt this episode to be a bit of a waste as I felt more should have been going on, I think I'm afraid that they are going to rush things with so few episodes left.
This episode also felt even more Fast Forward than Fast Forward did to me lol
And this brings me to my major gripe, this 13 episode season is waaaaaaaaaaaaay to short for all of the things going on.

Great episode! While I like the turtles in the real world better, the cyber world wasn't too bad. I hope in the future that Cyber Shredder will turn an area of the internet into a Foot HQ and create some Cyber Foot Ninja.

So, the 'mystery' behind Cyber Shredder is finally revelaed. :D

I've loved this series so far, but didn't really care for this episode! I only caught the second half of the episode, but the entire second half was basically a fight with the Shredder. And it wasn't even a very cool fight. I'm not feeling their "cyber-powers". It seems very gimmicky to me. I hope they stay in the real world more throughout the rest of the episodes. It seems like Shredder may try to come into the real world.

Still, I'll have to check out the first half of this episode later.

I thought it was cool when Shredder as well as when

Do I even need spoiler tags here?

I really couldn't stand this episode. Leo barely had any lines and wasn't much of a leader. He just stood there while Don was ranting.

Also, if Karai did help the Utom Shreeder...er..clone himself in the virtual world, why the hell didn't she try to resurrect him a few years ago?? What the (*&() are the writters thinking???

Hmmm.... good point. That's a major flaw in the story.:ohwell:

Not a bad episode. I liked it better than last week. The Cyber Clone Shredder is pretty good, but it kind of makes me :roll:. I'd like him a lot more if not for many incarnations of Shredder. Seriously, the dude is like a circus act.
Come one Come ALL. See the many faces of the SHREDDER!
He is an Utrom, He's his daughter, He's a Demon, He's a cloned-viral cyber thingy!
Don't miss the NEXT Shredder who is made from the nightmares of little kids and attacks them in their Dreams!

Mike didn't get on my nerves as much. But I can say that the racing thing annoyed me.

Don: Ok, we're here to rescue Splinter.
Leo, Mike, Raph: Ohhh! NASCAR TIME! Splinter? Splinter who? We've got CARS to play with! You go get'em Don. We'll see you when we're done playing.

The battle with Cyber Shredder was good. BIG explosions. lotsa Lightning and I counted about four or five Mikey girly screams. Seriously, hasn't he hit puberty yet? Voice change and all that? The whole Cyber world tho seems a BIG Matrix knock-off. I'm just waiting for Mike to say "There is no spoon." Or for RAph to say "we need guns. Lot of guns."

Ohh look! We got SPlinter's FEET! When they found him last week, I had hopes that it wasn't going to be 13 episodes of jigsaw-sensei. Hopes were dashed. It'll be 13 episodes of piecing him together. OR rather maybe 6 episodes of piecing him together and the remaining 7 will be "Don searches while the others go about doing their own thing."

The best thing about this story line has been Don. He's not angsting like season 4 Leo, but he is very narrowly focused on getting Splinter back. And this focus is leading him to be a be a bit reckless. Reckless Don has awesome potential.

Maybe she did try, and failed? Who knows...or maybe she has ADD and had too much on her mind at the moment to even think about the cloned guy. Maybe when she sees him now she'll smack her forehead and say "Stupid! stupid! stupid!"

Or, maybe there's a reason she didn't resurrect him? Perhaps she liked being in charge for a change.

"Think like a Cybernought"

If they never say that again, I will be a happy man.

Otherwise, pretty good episode. With all the new gear, I would say this episode was a 30 min. commercial. However, with no toys as of yet, this seems like wasted time that could be used for, you know, good stuff. I do like the new gear, though. Cool weapons. I could watch Leo draw his swords again and again. I also like the Light Cycle-ish tail on Raph when he does a jump kick. The account program made me laguh as I'm currently taking an accounting class and was using a online program last night.

I agree with VaughnMichael, 13 episodes just ain't long enough. I think this is the core reason why some don't like Season 5. It ain't long enough to let everything settle in.

You should see the first half, it was pretty entertaining for a set-up episode.

I love the more focus on Don this season, its about time. Otherwise yeah, it was a fairly standard episode that was entertaining but nothing too amazing.

Cyberspace was ok to visit one time, but I hope we don't spend that many more eps here. :)

this was a decent episode, even though it was in cyber space I thought that the action in it was an improvemnt over all from last weeks episode. I'm liking Donatello's determination and near susicidal lengths to get Splinter back no matter what. He said father at least three times in this one episode. And you can tell that that he hasn't gotten much sleep since he's looks pretty weary and he was rubbing his eyes alot, I laughed when he went up to Leo and tried to wake him up and Leo let out a this comical yelp of suprise. LOL :lol: Don seemed abit more grounded in this episode, but you can still tell that guilt is eating him alive, but now that he has something to work toward to get Splinter back he's more focused on that than torturing him self and being down.

But he seems to have lost some of his discretion, in his zeal to get in there and get Splinter back I feel that he is not considering every thing, sure he seemed like he thought of every thing with the wrist thingies and vehicles and weapons and armor and fire wall escape place, but I wonder if he's not being too ruthless. He's so driven on capturing Splinter that I don't think he's really reacting properly to the dangers to his brothers. He seemed a bit too blase about Mikey almost getting decompiled himself. I know that Don wants to get Splinter back at all costs but one of your brothers almost suffered his same fate, and instead of regrouping he wanted to jump right back in there. :o I understand where Don is coming from but don't foget about every thing.

Did any one notice that Mikey seemed to be in constant danger in this episode? To being nearly being decompiled by Shredder to being badly nocked out during the last few minutes of their fight? And he seemed to the one stuggling the most during the fights in this one. :ohwell:

And I actually did like the weapons and and gear the turtles where sporting in this episode, although I'm not sold on the color coordination of each turtle. I know there done so you can tell them apart, but I think their suits would have looked cooler with out the gaudy coloring. And how can I forget Cyber Shredder, it seems it is actually him, or at least a down loading version of him. So it would appear he has complete control and Viral's essence is no more. I liked his explainion on how he had a vault of his memories and and personality in the internet and the small cameo of Che'rell and Karai in her 2k3 form. But did any one notice that one shot was of Karai in her 2k3 form and one was a breif side shot of her in her BTTS design? In any case I'm glad he is back and his design is really cool. I think the fighting in the cyber world is going to be interesting, since the normal laws of physics don't apply and they can meld with their surrounding to fight. That was a nice touch, and there was some good creativity with the fighting, I really liked when Shredder shot his arm into the ground and it came up infront of Raph and grabbed his throat.

Points go to Raph for figuring out the way to fight in the most sufficent way in cyber world. I thought for sure it was going to be Leo but he seemed to take a slight back seat in this episode. Some of the scenes during the fights kind of reminded me of the 5th season when they had their chi powers. Don really stole the show in this episode and he seems to be acting more the leader right now. I do like that he seems less snappy with his brothers and some of their old rapport has returned; so it's all good. And for all the fans bitching about how the turtles have pupils and how anime like they look now, I hope seeing them in cyber space with out the pupils satisfy's you. This is a new take on the series being in cyber world, but I think plot and drama is still there and the character developement for Don just sweetens it all the more. I hope every will give the cyber episodes a chance before bashing it because it seems to much like FF. For all the flashy gimmicks in this episode, it was pretty solid. I enjoyed it.

I liked the episode personally... Still feels more like seasons 1-5 then season 6.

I knew that Cyber Shredder would be Chrell in some form.

The fight scene was much more elaborate, and now we just need some good fight scenes outside of cyberspace.

Good episode, but I don't want to see them in Cyberspace more then the real world, facing issues.

The way the show is going and presenting itself, it would be a godsend to get 26 episodes next season.

Where's the love 4Kids?

-X-

As a writer I can say that every major flaw in a story can be covered up.

Who's to say the writers don't read this forum, and write in a scene to explain it, thanks to you mentioning it, only to come and say we had that idea all along?

You know I once met a guy who sued Fox for using the idea of a man trying to track down a toy for his son, and getting into a competition with a Mailman? He got a lot of money, but in Hollywood, everything can be copied and misconstrued for personal gain.

Not saying that is the case, but what I am saying is, writers are always prepared for any moment they may slip up, unless it's too late.

Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman wrote in Shia Leboufs hand injury into the new Transformers movie. It was that easy.

If there isn't an explanation by the end of this season as to why she was so mad when he had copies, then they weren't prepared. I assume they will be however.

-X-

Come on now... we knew there was bound to be an episode like this in the first 4 episodes of the new season. I agree... 13 episodes is a bit short, but at least they didn't think they're be 26, and only produce 13, leaving things open ended.

So, it's been explained. the Shredder data was a copy of Che'rell's cyber suit and personality. And it took over Viral completely. That, of course was one of two theories I had. The other being she only dons the helmet and usurps the name to freak the turtles out.

The cyberstuff isn't bad so far... still seems like they're also fighting The Hacker or Mother Brain or something... and I gotta admit, the potential for some cool toys is there... but seems like we'll have to suffer through the Music themed turtles, the fire Fighter turtles and something to be named later where they're all dressed up like Pilgrims or in Banana suits or something....

I just hope this is a recurring theme, not a major focus.

Well if there is a Season 8, which there probably will be, I hope that ones 26 episodes.

It was only a decent episode, my least favorite of the season so far. The cyber world stuff has potential, but I hope they don't go there every episode. I'm sure we'll see some time-lapses wherein they've gathered more of Splinter.

I think the problem with this episode is that nothing really happened. It was basically one long fight scene, which is cool, except the fight itself was't particularly well done. Oh well.

Oh, and continued use of the earlier style in flashbacks continues to throw me.

Meh. Was okay, but I hope the other eps are less :roll:-worthy. How many times did they have to restate the "think like a cybernaut" line? Three? If it's weak the first time, repeating it will only annoy people. I agree that the cyber-world is rather gimmicy and (I think) boring, but I can only hope that this was the worst out of 13.

oh boy I knew when the cyber wold stuff came up this would happen.

It was an ok episode. Lots of fighting. I personally don't mind the new suits. I actually think Leo looks very cool in that suit. The weapons also have a nice little twist. I love weapons.

The CW did not show TMNT at 10:30 like they used to. What time did they show it at? And it's not uploaded you know where yet. I cannot wait.

T r o n
 

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-->> .. DONATELLO'S ON A F6ckin' DIAL - UP CONNECTION !!

Did I just miss this guy's appearance in a flashback when I stepped out to the bathroom or what? :-?

i was really hoping we'd get more time in the present day before they hopped into cyber space especially considering the show is BTTS. but i like this a whole lot better than FF.

My hopes for season 8...

- Keep the same intro, but change it accordingly like seasons 1-5.

- 26 episodes please.

- No more themes for each season. Just keep it at BttS, or just TMNT next season.

But this is a great season so far, and one where I cannot wait to see what happens next.

-X-

Maybe, he was shown with BttS Karai for like a split second.

Psssst...That's when Fox airs FF. CW airs BTTS at 9:30.

Wow, BttS rocks! Anybody else feel that Donatello seems to becoming the new unofficial leader of the TMNT?

A whole episode in the internet and no reference to porn? Why did the Turtles (and Khan) automatically assume Cyber Shredder was Ch'rell? Did they forget there were other Shredder's Tengu/Karai?

Found The Episode on Youtube.

Because it spoke with a manly voice and Tengu Shredder is both dead and had no understanding of technology.

I really hope Viral gets a little "comback" moment before Cyber Shredder dies.

Khan would also have known that The Cyber-Shredder Programe was an option

I enjoyed this episode, even if it was slightly more of a sequence of set-peices and even a more blatant toy commercial, but I guess you have to plug them somewhere...my only real concern is that it's going to be more than one toy variant there plugging this season, cyber-space may be the dumping ground for the plugs.

I think the fillers are going to pretty apparent, but the season is at least establisdhing everything one after the other so they can build up the more long-term stuff, like Khan's revenge and The Shredder War.

I liked the episode, but I thought it was kinda weird that only Don seemed to care to get Master Splinter back. Even Leo was too busy racing his new cyber car.

Good ep. I like how they used the powers they learned from their time amongst the Ninja Tribunal a bit.

Also the reasoning behind their eyes showing is now good. It's to diferenciate between the Cyber relm (where they have the original masks) and the real realm (where they have the new masks).

This ep at least answered the questions in regards to Cyber Shredder. Give it up for a typical villian exposition where he explained his origins. *L* But it still doesn't explain why Karai didn't upload this version of Shredder when her father was defeated. Perhaps she forgot or the device used to upload him was destroyed??? Hopefully we'll know for sure.

We also got the answer of how they're storing Splinters bits...ghostbusters style. And they got him feet first!

We need to make a drinking game for this series. Everytime the turtles go "Father" take a sip! It's like the replacement for "It's Ninja Time!"

Next week: Hun returneth and Raph and Casey go shoppin for engagement rings...:lol:

Finally got to watch this one!

Found out that they are showing TMNT while I am at Body Combat. No way I am sacrificing my favorite workout.

Anyhow, they are saying "father" more than in previous seasons- when it was used sparingly.

I liked the armor and weapons.

I don't like how this is becoming the Donatello show. He's cool, but not my fave Turtle.

It was a bit jarring to see the older footage of Karai and Ch'rell, then breaking to a new shot, using the new Karai model... shouldn't have used that footage again, though it may help to solidify that it was indeed the past. Just should have been consistant with one model or the other.

The only complaint I have is... if Karai was obviously there when this tech was scanning Ch'rell's mind - why has she been freaking out? She's had her father's mind on a computer the entire time, and knew it! I mean, yes, she's sad that he's out there freezing on an asteroid somewhere, but on the revenge side of things... I think she'd be much more likely to attempt to upload his backup to some kind of robot, than assume the title of the Shredder, herself, as she did. I don't like what this does to her story. But then again, I haven't liked what they've done with her since the third season... though the fifth was some consolation, at least.

I have a hard time believing that's the internet... it doesn't translate well, visually. I would imagine something more esoteric; I would think finding a fast connection and joining it would make more sense, than having actual vehicles riding on a solid data stream, and some kind of decompiler, rather than actual weapons. But it's not bad, given the limits of using a purely audio-visual medium to bring it across, and you can always take the physical stuff symbolically... it'd probably read better in print, though.

:tgrumble: Ugh...the whole "think like a cybernaught (sp?)" thing almost made me pop a vessel...and that's not something easy to do. So yeah it was an OK episode, not my favorite. The fight was decent and for some reason it reminded me of a show featuring magical powers NOT butt-kicking ninjas. (especially Mikey's sheild thing, Raph's spin attack and whatever the heck Don did with the bites it all reminded me of Winx Club or something :lol:) It's also nice to see Don less cranky but, I wish he was still back to normal. Mikey almost getting deleted caught me by surprise. All in all I hope the next episode will prove a little more exciting.

Where did you hear that?? Better yet, is there a place to see previews of upcomming TMNT episodes?? I can't find any on youtube or WB KIDS website!!