What would Splinter do?
 

How do you think Splinter would react in the 2k3 series if one of the turtles told him and said he did not want to be a ninja any more?

I mean being a ninja is something Splinter obviously takes very seriously and has intergrated into his sons life and influnced how he has raised them and molded them as young men. It's what he is and what his sons are and he is very prideful of his ninja heritage and proably keeps it alive in honor of Yoshi, and thinks of itr as a part of himself and Yoshi that he wants to keep alive in his children. Sort of like some one passing on their religious beliefs to their off spring.

If one of the turtles told him he didn't want to live the life of a ninja any more, at their young age of still being teenagers, what would Splinter do?

This thread is in the wrong forum sub-category.

I believe Splinter would be exceedingly disappointed but would try to reason with the turtle in question; probably resorting to some emotional blackmail of some type. He spent years training them as a group, and each on an individual basis, so it would be a heavy situation if one of them revealed they wanted to give up the ninja life.

In the end, he will permit that turtle to walk what that turtle feels is the best path. It would take a while for Splinter to accept that outcome, though.

This could work for any of the universes.

Depends on the Turtle in question, but I think it would be either Raphael or Donatello who would bring this up.

Raphael it would be because he does not want to follow the rules any longer and is being rebellious. Splinter would remind him of how ninjas can bring justice and use their fighting talents.

Donatello would be a more complex case. He would want to follow a different path that would not really involve ninjitsu- it would involve doing machines more. Splinter would have to think more about it, but in the end would encourage Donatello to follow his true calling and remember everything that he was taught. After all, it can only benefit him.

If Mikey were to do such a thing, Splinter's first thought would be that Mikey was being lazy and taking the easy way out. On the other hand, if Mikey persists, Splinter would give it some thought- and remind Mikey of how athletic and able he is.

For some reason, I do not see this happening with Leonardo. He is very much into ninjitsu.

Soccer or ice hockey
 

It's the same like people who "force" their kids to play soccer or ice hockey to become professional players.

I'm going to Cafepress and making a WWSD t-shirt.

Splinter's sort of like one of those parents who never realized their dreams and tries to live vicariously through their children, isn't he?

"You have to practice ninjutsu, Michelangelo! I always wish I could've avenged my master's death..."

"You have to play hockey, Billy! I always wish I could've continued playing..."

Hamato Yoshi
 

Yes, but this only works in versions where Splinter isn't Hamato Yoshi.

While a good question for any universe, Darth Shredder made this comment because the OP said:

There is a 2k3 sub-forum.


Anyway, to answer the question, I don't think he'd like it, but in the end he'd want his son to "follow his heart" (concert reference for 10 points!). I don't know that I could see any of them stop being a ninja, though. Well, maybe Don. Raph likes to fight too much, and he's good at it, so I don't think he'd want to give it up.

I want.

ok I put it over here because I thought it survive better over here. But I could ask the question regarding Splinter's reaction if one of the turtles in the orginal toon where to say he didn't want to a ninja any more, or the CGI movie. Splinter seemed at his harshest in the CGI movie so I imagine he react in the most negative way of the Splinters.

I could also see 2k3 Splinter acting very dissapointed and eventually angry at one of the turtles stating that he didn't want to be ninja any more. I think Splinter would take it as a personaly or even a mild form of betrayal, like the turtle in question where denoucing him in a way.

well I think I would have to ask what would the reasons be behind one of the turtles saying they don't want to be a ninja any more? Depending on what the reasons are I think would determine how Splinter would react.

Though in the 2k3 series I think Splinter regardless of what the the reasons would be would try to convince that turtle to stay a ninja and really push hard to keep them pursueing the life of one. I certainly think 2k3 Splinter would want to know the reason why behind it.

Like would the reason one of the turtles would want to give up being a ninja be because they got injured and they don't want to possiably be a criple some day?

Did one of them have a near death experience and now is afraid of of losing his life?

Do one of them feel they aren't good at being a ninja because he is struggling with the lessons?

Is it because ome of them was kidnapped and horriably tortured and now is traumaticed from the experience.

Is the reason that said turtle is mearly disillusioned by being a ninja?

Do one of them one to simpley want to pursue a diffrent life style?

Or would the reason be because one of them now have moral issues with being a ninja?

Did anyone else get a disturbing image of "Teenage Mutant Alternative Turtles" stuck in their head?

Until you said something? No.



Thanks.



A lot.

It would be multi-useful. What Would Shredder Do? For the evil people, What Would Satan Do? Or, my favourite, What Would S Do?

Hey wait! I thought it was What Would Splinter Do? Piffle...now the graphic design I've been working on all day instead of answering the phones like I'm supposed to will have been for naught. :cry: :P

But....think of the possibilities....


...the list goes on!

It is, it is indeed... but it could be marketed for other entities.

So... you want me to make a t-shirt with a picture of myself on a Sunday night?

Sunday nights, I take a nice long bath, then pop into a robe and chill out, often giving advice to friends who have had trouble during their week (think "Personal Jesus"). Also, my middle name is Wiseman. As for looking groovy, I'm not sure.

Both beard and smirk are real.

uh, you guys could we...maybe...talk about...the topic I started this thread about and nock off the crap? I felt happy that so many posts where added to my thread only to come in here and see theres a bunch of nonsense going on.

Or, y'know, you could be nice about it. It is human nature to go on tangent, as well as to steer others back on track.

yeah but this sort of thing happens an awful lot all over the board I notice. It can get a bit tiresome after awhile. But I am sorry for coming off too bitchy about it. I was pretty annoyed. So I'm sorry.

And I apologize as well, as it was my comment that the tangent was drawn from.

This thread just turned into an episode of Full House.

Speaking of inappropriate content. Darth Shredder. Not only is your Dracula clip signature ENORMOUS, but it also contains nudity. Please remove it.

If YouTube vids (which are all a fixed size when embedded) weren't allowed because of their size, I find it odd it is a feature for signatures.

On the topic of nudity... point it out in the vid. The minute/seconds where it happens. That way everyone will know exactly where to skip to for confirmation.

2:53 - 3:01. you really should know the contents of your own signature. And just because something is allowed, doesn't mean it isnt obnoxious.

I'm not the least bit concerned what you personally find obnoxious.

And as far as the minutes/seconds in which the nudity takes place... Correct. Now, underraged children, of whom otherwise would not have watched the music video up to that point, thanks to Archon, you know where to skip to.

Splinter would have to accept it.
The guys would have to make their own life decisions eventually. Splinty gave them the skills to live & survive, now he has to accept they may not want to do the ninja thing forever but he educated them, they learned, and are old enough to make their own decisions.


Leo would never leave the ninja life. Mikey might, Donnie would put it aside but Raph...I don't think he'd ever quit but I could see him wanting to do something else. Always wanting more out of life, he'd want to expand his experiences and put it aside.

There is one thing, if they were needed again they'd come back together, work out polish the skills and become the team again.

I'm not going to participate in this line of conversation anymore at this point, as you are now intentionally being inappropriate.

Raph: Ninjutsu... I wish I could quit you....

I really don't know, if we're talking Mirage, I think they are kinda moving from ninjitsu, but Splinter is also dead, so that throws a wrench in it.

I'm not sure if the Turtles would ever completely turn from ninjitsu. They've been raised in it for years. It's almost like a religion to them...though I guess when you grow up you sometimes leave religion behind, but it's usually because you're away from you're parents' constant influence. That and as Splinter said, it has the practical application of self defense against hostile humans.

And now to add some actual insight to the conversation for once...

At least from my experience, nobody can truly get away from the martial arts once it's in your system. If you slack off in training, completely disassociate with anybody who trains, or even train in another art, you will retain some essence of it within you. Whether it be something that's embedded in your soul, learned in a muscle memory situation, or in your subconscious, it's still there.

The only instance I've heard of someone un-learning a martial art is Jin of Tekken, and well... in a game with cyborgs, demons, clones, androids, dinosaurs, and monsters, that's not really a stretch of the imagination.

How Splinter would feel? Probably not be too fond, at least not until after they've got his vengeance for him...what I've always believed to be his main motivation.
Possible? Considering it's been integrated in their system at an early age and dominated their lifestyles pretty much completely, maybe not...at least can't be completely eradicated.
Could they choose an individual lifestyle, still fit in time to think about it or practice? Most definitely & their most likely choice; come across a crime-in-progress, probably react to it.

just how tough a time do you think Splinter would give the turtles if one of them wanted to stop being a ninja? I mean like in terms of the use of guilt trips and emotional manipulation to make you feel obligated to do what they want that parents are so famous for?

What about the whole "team" aspect? In TMNT IV (stop groaning) the key to defeating the Generals was that they all worked together as a team. If one brother truly wanted to give up being a ninja, wouldn't that put the rest of them in greater danger? Sure, they're all highly skilled warriors. But it looks like their "secret weapon" is working together. Hmm. Maybe that was just the moral of the story? ;)

hey, I kind of forgot about this thread. Polite bump.