Class Surprises Lesbian Teacher on Wedding Day
 

Here's that darn source you're wanting: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...politics&tsp=1


If I was one of those students' parents.. I probably would've been pissed, lol

Wtf? I haven't been on a field trip in 5 years and these little shats get to go to a wedding? Eff San Fran.

Heh. That's...kind of cool. I think. :shrug:

I'm all about teaching tollerance of all things. So good for them!

I think the guy saying that is the one who doesn't have an understanding... What does love got to do with politics?

Oh, the horror!!

*don't let the cynic out, don't let the cynic out*

Well, anyway, I see this as a good thing.. Tolerant people are important in a society where hate takes a greater role every day.

If she wasn't a lesbian no one care about this. Living in San Fran and being surrounded by this daily makes stuff like this hardly phase me. I'm honestly sick of hearing about it. Being gay has become a cliche now. They used to have token minorities now it's token gays.

I have a very close friend whose gay and if people aren't making comments about how she's gay she has to hear about how she's Irish. It's an everyday thing for her and she gets sick of it. People need to realize it's annoying to point out the obvious.

I really hate playing the European superiority card, but the fact that same sex marriage is still even an issue in the US is unbelievably backwards. While I don't approve of dragging children into politics, it's good to see them being taught some tolerance in this way. If the teacher wanted them there I see no reason why they shouldn't be; 'understanding' my ass.

I don't understand the controversy.
Heh, funny.

As frighting as it is there's still people out there who believe kids shouldn't be exposed to it. I mean if your surrounded by it as a kid it won't be a weird concept to you. If they don't learn to accept it now they might never. When their young is the time to do it.

I got in an argument with my roommate about this last night in fact. He thinks it's better to shelter kids from it. If you don't teach them it's wrong then they won't think it is. Let the poor kids figure it out for themselves. If they see it all the time they will soak it in as normal like it should be considered. I still fail to see why people are all up in arms about it. Sometimes I think they just need something to whine about to be happy so they picked this.

Beautiful!

Congratulations to the teacher and her spouse.

I would think the kids see more offensive things both in school and in their daily lives. I don't see the controversy in sharing a loving moment. Especially since the parents were given an approval option.

interesting...a field trip using city transit? That's not usually permitted in Ca districts, policies usually spell out they must use schoolbuses...wonder how they got past that one...

either way, hell good for them!! they love their teacher, don't care what her preferences are, they just want her happy and i think it's good.

Screw the opponents, they're idiots.

Maybe it's different in high school but we always used public transit for our field trips. We had a class where we had to take a bus to the bowling alley every day and we always took public transit.

lol, I love that you picked out the public transit thing. Always count on you for a unique perspective! <3

My High School summer school gym teacher drove us to a bowling alley on a field trip in his own van, which had a laundry list of safety issues, and then he nearly killed us all as he decided that 10 feet in front of a stop sign was a good time to start braking. Ah, the good ol' days. 8)

I really don't have much to speak of about this scenario, it's expected in San Fran, I say for anyone to marry there has to be love in it because divorce isn't really a thing that floats well with me. I understand if they're not ready for marriage as to why they divorce, but if it's something like adultery, then I'm really gonna be ticked off, cheating on another person has no excuse.

It shows no respect to your loved one and shows you weren't thinking about THEM, but instead of straying too far away of subject and ranting...

If they're in love, good for them and they have my blessings.

I think that was a very sweet gesture. I know how much it means to kids to be involved in a teachers life. It's someone they look up to and I bet they were so excited to be there.
As for the being gay part...Love is hard enough to find, why put any boundaries on who it can be with.
My best friend is marrying his boyfriend next fall and I am in the wedding party. I am very happy I live in a city where people feel free and comfortable with who they are. I feel priviledged I get to be a part of that too

It's mostly a religious thing, and I don't want to go into it. I can respect (but disagree completely) with someone who says, "I support gays, but in a religious standpoint, I don't agree with the marriage thing"... but quite a bunch of the opponents are the "I hate gays because they scare me, and various false prophets say it's bad, and they're evil.... blah blah blah.."

Sometimes I just think it's a stumbling block because the government doesn't want any benefits to go to anyone who isn't a rich and a party doner.... All I'm going to say...

I know it's a religious thing; my point is that religion should have nothing to do with politics... in fact I recall there being a law stating this.

Well, if there is a law like that in America, nobody cares; Americans are less likely to vote for an atheist or a homosexual for president than any other group that was mentioned in this survey:

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...n_or_atheist_/

Well, I think there is a law in most secularized countries, but you can't really call the US a fully secularized country :P

1) Same sex marriages are not legal everywhere in Europe.

2) Even in the countries where they are allowed, same sex marriages tend to be an issue among the more conservative crowd.

3) The US has California and I think several more states, where same sex marriages are/might be soon allowed.

To sum up - your "European superiority card" doesn't really make much sense, to be honest.

There's also the matter of several European countries, Sweden included, where right-wing extremist parties are growing dangerously popular... :|

Here in Sweden we have Sverigedemokraterna (The Sweden Democrats) and their main goal is reducing taxes by throwing out 90% of immigrants since immigrants are;

1. useless and gets too much tax-money
2. a danger to the Swedish culture and to our patriotism

Yeah, right... And of course SD also have the not so tolerant view on homosexuality...

The only thing I really can agree with them on is that Swedish immigration-policies are ****ed up... But that's as far as our agreement goes.. I wanna spend even more money on the immigrants to really try and incorporate them into our society.. Right now, we're basically accepting anyone that wants to move here, and they get financial help, but some Swedish-lessons would probably improve a hell of a lot of things, if you ask me... Which you don't... Also, I'm tired and writing too much... Good bye... :sleep:

I don't give a damn about being 'superior'; my point was that I didn't want to come off as the stereotypical European who likes to criticize everything about the US.

Some states are different but who knows... :P i wouldn't be surprised if they simply couldn't afford a schoolbus.


Hey no problem Arch! Always happy to please hehehe :D


Hmmm definitely illegal. Least you guys didnt get in an accident.

The reason I'm wondering cos when you take something other than a schoolbus, the liability. If something happened to the kiddies in the transit bus, the teachers, school, principal, district, would be ruined. There's a bigger chance of kids being hurt around a transit bus cos they're not trained the same way we are, they don't have all the mirrors to look for kids as well. so... :P
Im gonna shut up now!

RIGHT WING DEMOCRATS?!?!?! That's.... that's... Don't they just .... you know... cancell themselves out and cease to exist? Does your Arch Republican party dress in flowers and tie-dye T-shirts and say "Peace is Groovey, man?"

To quote the great Philosopher, Wade Duck... "I'm Scared!"

You might find this informative:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage

Actually only several European countries allow actual same sex marriages, according to that article.

And why stop with same sex marriage? If we allow that, who not allow a man to marry several women, a practice common in many Asian and African nations (Nelson Mandela currently has two wives)? Why not allow brothers and sisters to marry, or parents and children? Why not allow children to marry (in Iran and undoubtedly many other countries, a girl can get married at age 13, or even as early as age 9 with parental permission)? Why not legally recognize marriage of humans and animals (yes, there are real-life cases of people who marry their pets)?

Hey, if same sex marriage is OK, you might as well accept all the rest of them.

Haha, wow. Gay marriage isn't even the same as those things. Hahaha. Thanks for the chuckle, though.

Yeah, that argument is pretty weak and tired.

Same-sex marriage is, like other marriages, a committed monogamous union. Got nothin' to do with the other stuff you said. And even if it were related, you'd have to explain to a lot of people what's wrong with polyamory.

And yeah, kind of freaked out by Austria lately (as far as European countries), don't they have several neo-Nazi groups that got quite a lot of votes in recent elections?

Now my brain hurts. Stupid is painful to read.

hahahahaha! I love this topic!

This example here is perfect to show the TERROR in the hearts of the North American culture. I just came back from working in Boston for two weeks. I had a chance to have some great political talks with some very smart people. We never spoke of this subject but I am sure he was agianst it. The underlying problem in our cultures is FEAR! But its NOT fear of gays its this stupid fear like this last person was saying "if this changes, everything will change" same goes for public health care. I have now met American's who ACTUALLY don't want it because they are TERRRRRRIFIED of Socialist values because, god forbid!! that might be mean your communist! hahaha

People in general are ignorant, they know little of the rest of the world and they are TERRIFIED of anything different or they don't understand, so if the opiate of the masses suggests something is wrong well lets shut it DOWN!

And yes I agree with the European, the Church and State are getting closer which is sending America into a new dark age and working backwards in a horrific land slide no one is aware of.

If you think that creating same sex marriage won't encourage other groups to push for polygamy etc., you're crazy. Why wouldn't they say, "If gays have the right to marry, then our definition of marriage is our right too"? US law, as far as I know, has always defined marriage as between one man and one woman, with the other examples I have mentioned never being permitted. Why bother redefining marriage in the US when we have nothing to gain and everything to lose by it?

Non-Americans love to think they know us well and that we're ignoramuses, and they hate it when Americans like myself tell them that their preconceived notions about us are complete nonsense. I know this from past experience.

This is exactly what I wanted to avoid, because unlike you I don't think in terms of 'us' and 'them'. Congratulations, you're a walking stereotype.

I also love how your only argument against gay marriage is based on semantics. Really, good show. Also, stop posting. Thanks.

... says the guy who claims Nelson Mandela has two wives and suggests gay marriages are a straight way to the legalization of pedophilia and bestiality.

Yeah... cuz they're clearly the same thing.

Oh Noes! Marriage isn't sacred. Well, we gotta tell those guys in Vegas that get sh**faced and propose to the nearest prostitute that their marriage isn't sacred. Let's tell all those gold diggin' hos that marry so they can wait for their husbands to die to take all their money that their marriage isn't sacred.

God, I'm agreeing with everyone else. That is a bullcrap argument, with shoddy logic. The slope ain't that slippery.

We have nothing to gain or lose if it's legal or not because, unless you're gay and in a relationship...

IT DOESN'T EFFECT YOU!!!!!!

You bring a whole new meaning to the term "bible humper".

You must have been sheltered as a kid, or raised in the South. You lost the war remember?

And hey just because it's not legal to marry doesn't mean all the red necks will stop inbreeding. Though as we can see that never turns out well.

Do you go to abortion clinics too and tell women what to do with their own bodies or are you one of the guys who stands outside of concerts and tells me I'm going to hell?

Leave your cave, the sun light might be scary but it's a lot more entertaining out here.

I've been thinking about what Chi-ha said. While I don't agree with it, I do see a point in part of the reasoning. Polygamy is deemed acceptable in several places in the world, as in a handful of religions. For what reason could we still disallow it when we're about to change the nation definition of marriage anyway? It would simply be a consensual union of legally mature people, right? :tconfuse:

The constitution was based on the separation of Church and State...at least until Richard Nixon woke up one morning and realized that bigotry, hatred, and religious segregation were great ways to assure a solid party base for generations to come. Now we call something like this a "social issue". It's just another way for religious extremists to propagate their hate while preaching love and spreading their power and influence.

Love should know no boundaries.

Take a look at the modern-day idiot folks. It's people like you that have ruined this once great country.

I know the degree varies drastically depending on what region of the country you hail from, but in my region at least, religious bigotry and hatred are everywhere. If a teacher were to try to teach children in my area about acceptance and tolerance of different people with a unique way of life such as this one did, parents would be picketing schools, and their rednecks husbands and sons would probably vandalize the place, or worse. Pastors would be on the conservative local news stations yacking about the corruption of America's youth by sin, the teacher would be forced to vacate her position, and laws would be immediately passed to force to prevent any further teachers from doing something similar.

It truly depresses me to no end to see what is happening to this country. I know people like this have been around forever, but now they've learned to focus their prejudice into a political message. America is rotting from the inside out while it's people wage a culture war over nonsense.

But to being the whole topic back around, what that teacher did brings a smile to my face. Anybody who stands up and tries to spread love and tolerance for other cultures is a hero in my book.