I Want A "Ninja Turtle Babies" Cartoon Show
 

I do.

I want it to be like the "Muppet Babies" was when I was a kid.

I want the Turtles to look like they did when Dario Brizuela drew them in Tales #38. And I want them to go on zany and funny adventures every week where they learn a valuable life lesson at the end. And Michelangelo makes a lot of bad puns that drive the others up the sewer walls.

I want it to be super-popular with little kids now, and with their parents (who grew up on the original toon).

I want it, because my gut tells me that the CSI-DARK KNIGHT-OMG-REALISTIC-SUPERHEROES-FRANK MILLER-FOREVER!!!1111 backlash is coming.

People want to have fun again.

(I also want an uber-gritty, early Mirage-style film, but that's not what we're talking about, here).

I want a cartoon called TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLE BABIES, and I want it to be the most popular thing in the world.

Who's with me? :D

Sorry buddy, I can't agree.

As much as I love the occasional toddler turtles story, it needs to stay occasional (and the more recent animated ones have kinda failed). The last thing the franchise needs right now is to go the "babies" route. I'll worry about Dark Knight "backlash" after TMNT makes a real attempt to be serious again.

I'm sure you're right, Rose (History's taught me that you usually are :)).

I just want more turtles stories that leave me feeling "blessed" and redeemed, you know? "Iron Man" left me leaving the theater feeling that way.

Whereas both of the last Batman movies (much as I loved them) left me shuffling out the theater feeling condemned and damned by fate.

And as much as I appreciate that kind of work, when done well (like in the Batman movies), I don't necessarily enjoy it.

That first Turtles film (he said, putting on his old man pants :)) really mixed the two pretty much perfectly. There was humor. There was seriousness. There was great character development.

Like everyone else, I totally loved it.

I'm glad I didn't post my original alt-turtle idea for you though, Rose:

A few things to weigh in on here:

I really do enjoy the dark n' gritty, Miller-esque trend, if its juxtaposed against a good, deep story. Movies like The Dark Knight and graphic novels like The Dark Knight Returns are champions of good writing. Yes, they're dark, but that darkness is used as a vehicle for deeper messages. If its just a grit-fest, I couldn't care less (unless its incredibly stylish, because I'm a sucker for that). Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the comic, has always been a deeper series. It's had its dark moments, but its always used them in great ways. City At War is both gritty and incredibly deep. This is something I enjoy, and something I'd like to be introduced to the general public.

Now, I'm not opposed to campy fun either. I think a child-oriented Baby Turtle show could be great. I simply don't think it should happen before the public can swallow dark turtles. The Turtles need to be accepted to the point where they can, like Batman, have a dark movie in theatres and a children's show on television. If Baby Turtles arrived before the public was more aware of the Mirage versions, all hope for that acceptance would be lost, and my favorite stories would continue to go unnoticed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ba...rtleInHand.png

Well, here's what a baby turtle looks like.

Of course that leaves a few other problems. Would Splinter be a baby rat, or a baby human? When they fight with Shredder, are they allowed to take time out to have their diapers changed? Would the Punk Frogs be tadpoles? What about Krang, Rocksteady or Bebop?

I say Stewie should be the villian.

*facepalm*

*revokes willtupper's cool card*

W.B were way ahead of you there. Why else would they make the next Batman animated series the polar opposite of The Dark Knight and go with a tounge-in-cheek Silver Age format?

I wouldnt mind a return to the fun kind of television myself (in a rebooted series of course). I've seen a slow uprise in this again, the new Transformers series is exactly the kind of fun you're looking for, so it wouldnt hurt.

Have you discussed this with others where you work?

Where does willtupper work? :-?

Baby TMNT is cute, like Baby Looney Toons.

Plus, how can you "baby" in the literal sense of the word a "teenage ninja"? It doesn't make sense with the title.

:D

A Baby TMNT series? Muppet Babies was awesome....Baby Looney Tunes not so much. There were some things still about Muppet Babies that never made sense:

1: Robin was a tadpole while Kermit was like 2. Something that's never been touched upon in the live action stuff.

2: Skeeter was never mentioned again after the Muppet Babies and Muppet Kids (a series of books where they're pre-teens). Yeah it was revealed in 1993 what happened to her (dissapeared on an expidition in the Amazon Jungle) but they could at least have mentioned her once or twice.

I found a pic of a live action Skeeter!!! :o
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/mu...px-Skeeter.jpg

3: Scooter is an idiot but was smart when he was younger. What happened? His mom is a parrot...he should be super smart still. Maybe we should blame his rich uncle (You know...the biggot of an uncle who once maintained the Muppet theatre? He's dead now according to a deleted scene on the Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie DVD...)

4: Nanny and Aunt Franny. Are they still alive?? Would be nice to see em live action.

A Baby TMNT thing would be too weird. April would probably end up in the Nanny role or Aunt Franny.

As for the TMNT friends thing. Leonardo as Ross and Shadow as Rachel?? That's just wrong on so many levels. Shadow is their niece!

You can say that again. :lol: I wonder if Raph and Mikey would fight over a blankie. :lol:

We almost did... and considering how the Baby turtles have been portrayed in "Incredible Shrinking Serling" and "Fathers and Sons" I pray it never comes to that.

And honestly, other than A Pup Named Scooby Doo and Tiny Toons (more of a next generation cartoon than true Baby-fication), they were pretty bad. Yo Yogi had a couple moments, I agree... but Baby Looney Tunes was almost a character for character ripoff of Muppet Babies.

Besides, Muppet Babies appeal was more than just seeing them as non-canonical child versions of themselves... it's what they did... their imaginations running wild and getting into mild peril (something parents and psychologists would shun today, since kid's shows are just... well they're the pits now). It took great writing and great music to make the show what it was... not just "ooh, look! The characters are babies."

I mean, who can deny the coolness of this:




If we're going the Fun TMNT route, I'd much rather see an Archie like series... or even one like the old cartoon. But NO Babyfication... or making an adult cartoon show that's a tepid Family Guy/ Aqua Teen Knockoff.

please god no.

Oh lord no.......:roll:

I can top cuteness...with...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...babysteve4.jpg


yes my post is pointless. couldn't resist.

I wouldn't want one, flashback episodes could be cool though.

However I wouldn't mind another comedy TMNT cartoon like the OT. I love dark and gritty turtles but I also enjoy the lighter side of turtles.

gotta agree with ya there,bud. anyways, ninja turtle babies? thats a difinate no-no.

Is that a newly-hatched snake? :-?

I wouldn't mind seeing fun TMNT again, as long as it's tongue-in-cheek like the new Batman cartoon. As long as it can exist alongside the serious TMNT that I also want, I'd be prefectly fine with a fun TMNT show.

Not Baby TMNT, though.

I think this guy is just pulling legs. He's not serious about a TMNT babies series, at least I don't believe.

I'm sure he's probably been reading all the whining on the cartoon lately and has gotten tired of it (not that I blame him). So he created this as a satire.

I concur. A Brave & The Bold version of TMNT might be a fun idea.

Even if it was a great show, it's still a huge step in the wrong direction.

You guys are NO FUN AT ALL :D.

And (playing the devil's advocate) how do we KNOW it would be a "huge step in the wrong direction?" I mean, what if a TV show was done that was to the quality of say... Shrek (which was a kiddie movie that dealt with adults and adult-level humor really well, I thought). Would that be the wrong direction for the Turtles to head in?

Yeah, it probably would. But it sure would be FUN.

And I'm all about fun. And come on. "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Babies" is a hilarious idea. BECAUSE IT MAKES NO ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE! :D

PS - Y'all can be all "TMNT need to stay dark and realistic and true to their roots" that you want. And I agree with it, for the most part. But picture a Baby Shredder, trying to steal the Turtles toys. Just think of that. HOW FREAKING HILARIOUS COULD THAT BE?

Will, can I have some of the drugs your on please?:lol:

I could see that format being a good one shot...maybe a made for tv movie...but i dunno about a whole series...

Of course you can! Anything for you, Vaughn.

(It's only caffeine, though. All the rest of this is just naturally me. Scary, I know :D).

PS - It would still be hilarious, though. And picture baby Bebop and Rocksteady. And infant Krang. INFANT KRANG! IN A TINY TECHNODROME! YEEEEEEEEAAAHHH!!!

Rocksteady, Bebop, and even Shredder were changed to infants in eps of the original series...as were the TMNT in several eps. And everytime it happened the adults suddenly became uncles (Unca Splinter! Unca Krang! Unca Shredder!) or aunts (Aunty April! Aunty Irma!)....to this day I have no idea why they refered to Splinter as their uncle.... Shredder was the only one to maintain his adult mind when he was changed (after being pushed in the fountain er uh lake of youth). Krang thought he was cute tho...

I'm still sticking to my idea of taking OT characters and re-launching them in a "The Brave and the Bold" type of cartoon. It's silly, it knows that it's silly, but it's a fresh take on the silly side of the TMNT that wouldn't cringe at the thought of a few years later when it's no longer fresh.

However, I would want to wait until the TMNT have a reputation similar to Batman. Everyone knows of Batman's dark roots now and except that as the status-quo. However, when people think of oldschool Batman, they think of the campy Adam West and Superfriends stuff. So, when "The Brave and the Bold" hit TV, everyone knows that that isn't normal, but just a fun take on the character inspired by his Silver Age comics (after the dark stuff but before Adam West) that should be taken as-is and not as the definitive version of the character.

So, when people think of the Mirage comics as the definitive version of the TMNT, I think it would be safe to make something a little more fun and campy just for the fun of it and it wouldn't ruin everything a lot of people have worked for in terms of the reputation of the characters.

Careful, Will, I might have to draw that if I get bored enough... :P


I enjoy the toddler turtle episodes immensely, I just don't know if that would work in a full show setting. Kinda like how the SNL skits got turned into movies and bombed...

Do it! Do it! Do it!

I think that is a BRILLIANT idea :D.

Of course, I also think the idea (which I just had, just now) of TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES BABIES, a cartoon TV show, directed by FRANK "I AM TOUGH AND GRITTY" MILLER would also be great.

Can you imagine baby Raphael, as written by Frank Miller?

"I'm gonna slobber all over your blankee until it's all kinds of wet."

Stuff like that. GENIUS!

Seriously, though: I totally think you should draw that.

Ninja Turtles Babies cartoon show..... final nail in the coffin?

Sing a Song of Superheroes!
 

Well, as long as the topic has been raised:


I think Kermit pulls off a mean Donatello!

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If this baby show did happen, it would probably be enough to kill TMNT for me. Like seriously, I'd turn to a new fandom because a Muppet Babies TMNT cartoon would be ALL kinds of WRONG.

This is the kind of idea that the Technodrome's member Guitar_Raph would come up with.

I'm going to hope that Leonardo Mystic is right when she said that this is probably one big joke out of bordom to stir up attention in the forums.

Thanks for reminding me why I can't stand that show. Still, I shocked it wasn't Drtooth posting this...

(Fozzie kinda was the one that was Donatello... Bean Bunny called him Fozzatello and... well, whatever. Fozzie's VA was the same dude that was the alternate of Donatello, BTW)

Plus, as much as I like the show, those later episodes were beyond weak. I did like the Nintendo one, though.

No I wouldn't want a ninja turtle baby show. It will ruin the fanbase plus it will be worse than the next mutation.

Okay, okay. Okay.

But...

for everyone of you old-school, street-cred head loyalists who cry that it would ruin the franchise, I'm willing to wager there would be a hundred (if not a thousand) four or five year-olds who would see Ninja Turtle Babies come on on Saturday morning and think it would be the most amazing thing ever.

I'm thinking of them. Not the limiting views of any one purist person's fandom.

And, it would still be funny. And totally adorable. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY! :P