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Jester 01-29-2009 01:03 AM

Marvel Legends
 
There's a new sub-forum and by God I'm gonna help fill her up.

Marvel Legends figures are truly awesome. They are probably what paved the way for the mass market DC Universe figures (Heck IO know the Build A Figure Concept was jacked by DC Universe.) and maybe even our beloved NECA Turtles.

Though they've gone from one company (Toybiz) to another (Hasbro) and some say quality has diminished slightly because of it, ML is still a great series of figures, encompassing the big names of Marvel comics (seems every wave has a Wolverine) and even the obscure little know characters (UNion Jack anyone?) and everyone in between.

Not nearly as plagued by the same old sculpt, ML figures are fun for collectors as well as kids.

Here's hoping I can have 2,000 Wolverines and 5,000 Spideys by the time they quit making figures.

Sarah 01-29-2009 07:45 AM

I don't have that many Marvel Legends figures. I only bought the characters that I like, and I had to buy some that I didn't like just to get the parts for the BAF Apocalypse which was one of the best figures that Toybiz ever made. I really liked the detail that was put into some of them and I honestly would have got more of them but I had my Star Wars addiction to deal with. :lol:

andrewdsz 01-29-2009 09:20 AM

I like the bulky figures, the old ML figures by toybiz are so awsome,especially after series 9. My fav is series 15 the destroyer,and BAF sentinel placed 2nd.

That Matt Guy 01-29-2009 01:04 PM

The Giant Man wave was the best one in my opinion. I drove all over creation looking for those damn things. I've also always thought the line was a little too "X" heavy, as I only collected Avengers characters.

Spitfire 01-29-2009 01:14 PM

The build a figure idea is cool but it's always plagued by a few huge problems. The first one being to get all the parts I have to buy characters I would never care about and they always put at least one insanely lame/obscure character in the line.

Secondly if I want all the part I most likely have to buy the toys online and unless I pre-ordered a set of all the toys from the start I'm SOL on that quest.

Lastly is scalpers, scalpers who buy up all the figures and sell them for insane prices online. They sell the parts to make up the giant figures for insane prices. I see parts go for like 20 bucks or more. Then some people buy all the figures in a set remove the parts from the package and then sell the figures in the package still.

I look at it as a greta idea ruined by the fan base and lack of production on the figures. I rarely see these in stores. Last time I actually saw a Marvel Legends figure in stores was about 2 years ago at a Kay Bee and that was it.

I've never seen the DC Universe figures in stores. The Targets, Walmarts, Toysrus's, and anything else you can think ofs around here just don't sell them. You once in a blue moon find them at a comic store but they charge crazy prices for them.

joe-eyeball 01-29-2009 04:20 PM

The only Marvel Legends figures I have are the ones of the Punisher, because I'm not ashamed to admit I have a little bit of a Punisher bromance going on. I have to say that I can't wait for the new Marvel Universe 3 and3/4" line. I hope to collect all of the figures in that line.

Candy Kappa 01-29-2009 04:41 PM

I only got X3 juggernaut, X3 Dark Phoenix and Quicksilver.
I really want a wolverine, she hulk and elektra

sdp 02-20-2009 12:06 PM

Well I got my first Marvel Legend earlier this week and it was Marvel Girl.

I'm slightly disappointed, after hearing all the buzz about MLs for so long and its just a good figure. I like it since its a good figure but it failed to excite me as much as other action figure lines.


I am not a huge Marvel fan but I do like it. Other Marvel Legends figures I'd like is Deadpool. The rest I want to get I don't know if they've been made or have a good version I may like. A Jubilee, a punisher, a good venom, spiderwoman, Miss Marvel, a good Rogue, and probably a Spider-Man I'd like and a Wolverine with classic (non-yellow/blue) colors, a hulk, an iron man though not the biggest fan of those characters.

Brodie 02-20-2009 12:15 PM

I loved this line for a long time, until Hasbro got the rights.

The quality, like Jester said, went down hill. But I think it went down in a huge way. No paint detail (dry brushing, etc), less articulation, and pretty terrible sculpts. Most of the human looking figures from Hasbro look pretty sickly. I always get pissed when I think about the fact that Toybiz could have barelly made a Planet Hulk figure, but the property was exchanged right about then, and we got a shittty Hasbro one.

Did anyone ever get the toys that the sculptors from Toybiz did after they lost Marvel Legends? It was a toy company just called Marvel Tiys, or something. They did the build a figure stuff, and did only indie/image/top cow characters. I originally only ever picked up Madman, and in the flux of the line getting cancelled and wave 2 hardly being released, I was able to snag a Darkness figure from wave 2. later on Walmart threw these on clearence, so I got all of Wave 1, and built a Pit, and he's ****ing huge. Probably on par with the Sentinel BAF.

Anyone seen the new Hasbro line? the GI Joe size?

Blade Raider 02-20-2009 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 674043)
I am not a huge Marvel fan but I do like it. Other Marvel Legends figures I'd like is Deadpool. The rest I want to get I don't know if they've been made or have a good version I may like. A Jubilee, a punisher, a good venom, spiderwoman, Miss Marvel, a good Rogue, and probably a Spider-Man I'd like and a Wolverine with classic (non-yellow/blue) colors, a hulk, an iron man though not the biggest fan of those characters.

If you don't mind a smaller scale, I suggest the Marvel Univere, Wolverine Origins, and maybe the Wolverine ande the X-Men. Their in scale with GI Joes, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, etc. While the lines have just started, just from internet reviews, it's easy to tell their on par (or very chose to par) with Hasbro's MLs. Furthermore, at least 7 of the figures you listed come out before fall of this year. I'm told Deadpool and the brown Wolverine are starting to hit shelves. The MLs of these two will cost you an arm and a leg each. So yeah, if you want these characters, I suggest saving a lot of money and get the new smaller ones.

Anyways, I currently own 6 MLs. The Sentinel (because they rock. Even more if used with Joe scale figures), Professor X (because he's my favorite X-Men...Is it X-mEn or mAn?), Nightcrawler (I like the character, but the figure ain't anything special), X3 Beast (Because I highly approve of Kelsey Grammer playing him), Spider-man (Who had terrorable QC and I ended up trading it for another one at my local comic shop) and Black Panther (Who I kitbashed into Nobody). I honestly think they have to much articulation. Does Professor X really toe joints? I laughed in the middle of the toy isle when I saw the sticker on his box saying "40 points of articulation!" It's been a while, I think I got him because I had to have the paraplegic with 40 points of articulation. Nightcrawler, I hate his feet. I can't get him to hold a pose because of the toes. The Sentinel leans forward all the time. If it wasn't for it's huge feet, it'd fall over all the time. I already mentioned the Spider-man's terrorable QC. Couldn't even bend one of his elbows.

I'm looking forward to the Marvel Universe line. Aside from being in the scale most of my non-robot toys are in, their making a lot of characters I'd like to have, but the MLs cost waaaaay to much on the second hand market. I'm going to troop build Ronin to make a Foot Ninja army (Btw, I really don't know who this is...). I'll end up with a Spider-Man and Ironman soon enough. Then I'm thinking of getting Beast from Wolverine ande the X-Men because he looks to have MU articulation unlike the rest of the line. Plus, his fit feet can hold accessoires (Haven't seen that since Sergeant Bananas :P).

Anyways, I'm considering this the General Marvel toys since I'm sure no one wants a ton of different Marvel (or DC, Transformers, PR, SW, etc.) threads cluttering the toy section.

EDIT: Here's my proof the Sentinel is even more awesome with smaller figures:
http://vault.error-403.net/files/3/T...n/Pirate08.JPG

Brodie 02-22-2009 07:21 PM

http://screenrant.com/wp-content/upl...dpool-toy1.jpg
**** Hasbro.

Wes 02-22-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 674710)
**** Hasbro.

Erm, why? There's a comic version of Deadpool out there too (two, actually)...

Blade Raider 02-22-2009 10:30 PM

If anything, ya should curse Fox for making him that way. Btw, he looks like he should be from Mortal Kombat...

Ninjinister 02-22-2009 10:33 PM

What the Hell is that? That isn't Deadpool... it's a clown with claws....

Brodie 02-22-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wes (Post 674762)
Erm, why? There's a comic version of Deadpool out there too (two, actually)...

Yeah, and I'd rather have those.

Hasbro has **** for sculptors, and they do **** jobs with detail and playability. Let alone basic aesthetics.

VaughnMichael 02-23-2009 07:16 AM

I seriously hate these little figures.:dead:

Wes 02-23-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 674776)
Yeah, and I'd rather have those.

No, I meant that Hasbro's putting out two 3.75" comic-based Deadpool figures -- so it's not as if they're universally crapping on the dude! Plus, like BR said, Fox (or whoever) shares some of the blame for making him like that in the movie.

Ninjinister 02-23-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wes (Post 674917)
No, I meant that Hasbro's putting out two 3.75" comic-based Deadpool figures -- so it's not as if they're universally crapping on the dude! Plus, like BR said, Fox (or whoever) shares some of the blame for making him like that in the movie.

Deadpool's one of my favourite Marvel characters. F*** them for this, whoever did this. At least my other fave, Gambit, didn't get utterly shafted.

Blade Raider 02-23-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by VaughnMichael (Post 674824)
I seriously hate these little figures.:dead:

Before I beat a dead horse with how smaller figures are better, I'll say this:
http://vault.error-403.net/files/3/motivator2170761.jpg

That is all.8)

Ninjinister 02-23-2009 02:34 PM

All obey Johnny Yong Bosch!

Anyway, I don't mind smaller figures, but they're not my favourite scale. I mostly only collect TMNT, so I'm more fond of figures that are around the sizes those figures have been!

VaughnMichael 02-23-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade Raider (Post 674921)
Before I beat a dead horse with how smaller figures are better, I'll say this:
http://vault.error-403.net/files/3/motivator2170761.jpg

That is all.8)

You can't change my mind with Anime, as I also dislike that over used one trick pony.:lol:
And smaller figures are not better for people who have been faithful and collecting the 6 inch figures all this time.
My entire collection of figures is 6 inch or larger now they switch to this and I'm supposed to have midget sized figures next to giants, *explodes*
Also not better because the sculpts and paint jobs are super poorly done atleast with the larger figures it's easier to fix if something isn't right.

Wes 02-23-2009 05:43 PM

I admit that I'm not the biggest fan of smaller figures either, but I don't think that any scale is inherently better than another (ignoring factors like price, space required to store them, and so forth). Given that the bulk of my collection is 6", I'm just not terribly interested in starting a whole new tiny collection. I might pick up smaller characters like Wolverine and Shadowcat, though, to include among my still incomplete 4.5" ToyBiz X-Men collection. I'll also probably grab small groups -- like Spider-Man and his amazing friends! -- since they'll be "complete" on their own. That tiny RULK also looks pretty awesome.

I'd probably be more inclined to collect the MU figures if they were in a 5" scale -- at least then they could hang with my RPM and Doctor Who figures. :P

Jester 02-23-2009 05:54 PM

I guess certain figures would even work in that scale. I'd pick up Ant Man, Wasp and any other character who shrinks.

Blade Raider 02-23-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by VaughnMichael (Post 674949)
And smaller figures are not better for people who have been faithful and collecting the 6 inch figures all this time.
My entire collection of figures is 6 inch or larger now they switch to this and I'm supposed to have midget sized figures next to giants, *explodes*
Also not better because the sculpts and paint jobs are super poorly done atleast with the larger figures it's easier to fix if something isn't right.

If it makes you feel better, I think they shouldn't end the ML scale. They should make BOTH. Hell, DC has 3 scales from Mattel alone, why can't Marvel? However, you have to fogive me for being happy about it going to my scale. Afterall, you said we complain to much :P

I can't wait to have Spiderman and his amazing friends take on Cobra Commande and Darth Vader :D

VaughnMichael 02-23-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade Raider (Post 674965)
If it makes you feel better, I think they shouldn't end the ML scale. They should make BOTH. Hell, DC has 3 scales from Mattel alone, why can't Marvel? However, you have to fogive me for being happy about it going to my scale. Afterall, you said we complain to much :P

I can't wait to have Spiderman and his amazing friends take on Cobra Commande and Darth Vader :D

I'm fine that they are doing them, but like you said they should be doing both.
The problem I've always had with these and the DCU figures is that they're so damn hard to find.
I've yet to see a single DCU wal-mart exclusive figure in stores and I work at a wal-mart lol

Spitfire 02-24-2009 01:34 AM

Smaller scale figures? That's lame. I don't buy many Marvel figures anyways so I guess it doesn't effect me I just hope DC doesn't adopt this. I really like how all their figures are scaled. My Bane towers over the others like he should it's great. I always hated small toys. The Star Wars line was the first I got into that did that when I was a kid. I always looked at it as the companies being cheap asses.

sdp 02-24-2009 11:19 AM

I like smaller scale for various reasons, they're easier to find space to display, they're cheaper, makes it easier to get the whole series and more likely to see more characters.

I don't mind sacrificing some articulation and some detail. Though of course I love normal scale figures as well though.

Wes 03-03-2009 06:37 AM

By the way, if y'all are interested in getting some really cheap 6" Marvel Legends -- for collection purposes, customizing, whatever -- walmart.com has some pretty low clearance prices on the 2-packs. The Elektra/Ronin 2-pack could make for some pretty decent ninja fodder, and the Mr. Fantastic/Thing 2-pack (which is only $4!) probably has its uses as well. ML style Rock soldiers, perhaps? :)

Wes 03-05-2009 10:09 AM

So my Mr. Fantastic/Thing 2-pack came yesterday -- how's that for speed?!?! -- and I've gotta say that it's well worth the $5.71 I paid for it. I'm not a huge fan of Reed, but the Thing in here (which was out in Hasbro's Fantastic Four ML wave, so you might already have it) is pretty darned cool! And for you customizers out there, you can't tell me that he wouldn't look a lot like a certain... someone... without a brown paint job.

http://www.wesoteric.com/toyimg/2pkthing.jpeg

I can see it now: General Traag's poolside mission! :lol:

Brodie 03-17-2009 07:39 PM

Has anyone picked up the GI Joe sized figures?

I was able to snag a comic version Deadpool from the Wolverine Origin line. I hate the scale, considering most of my collections are bigger figures. But I couldn't pass up getting a Deadpool figure, since I missed out on the Marvel Legends one.

I'll admit that overall he's a decent figure, aside from the oversized weapons.

I have a real huge issue with Hasbro's lack of quality control as far as the painting is concerned on some figure though. I saw the Wolverine & The X-Men figures, and I'd have picked up a set, if they didn't have terrible paint jobs and random splattering (also, wolverine has hand held claws? wtf?)

If the price for the GI Joe sized marvel figures goes down, and they can figure out steady releases (and quality control), then I might snag a few more. But as of now I'll just keep the Deadpool. He fits the scale of the McFarlane Halo 3 figures.

VaughnMichael 03-17-2009 08:54 PM

I've seen them, I like the box designs, dislike the scale as I've said before, the paint jobs keep me away.
If they made allot of those characters in a larger scale I'd have got them no questions asked, like you the majority of my collection is bigger sized figures.

Sculpt, paint, and articulation have allot to do with how I buy my figures these days if those 3 things are not in line and the price isn't right say like with the new animated spider-man figures I'll pass them right up.

Brodie 03-17-2009 09:50 PM

I totally agree. I love the designs for the Animated Spider-Man and the new X-Men cartoon, but I can't get passed how horribly Hasbro has dropped the ball. It would have been better if Mattel had gotten the rights. Atleast they aren't nixing the 7-8 inch figures completely.

Venom was the only Spider-Man animated figure I picked up, but mostly because his articulation wasnt terrible and his paint and such was really fantastic. But they screwed up his head design, and I can't understand why they didnt go with the one on the back of the box?

VaughnMichael 03-17-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 680376)
But they screwed up his head design, and I can't understand why they didnt go with the one on the back of the box?

Oh man, that drives me crazy that the figures on the back of the box look so much better than the ones they're selling.
I'd really love to know the story behind that one!:lol:

Jester 03-18-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by VaughnMichael (Post 680379)
Oh man, that drives me crazy that the figures on the back of the box look so much better than the ones they're selling.
I'd really love to know the story behind that one!:lol:

Have you seen the pictures of a Big Mac in McDonald's ads? Same general concept. The display or production copy is always better than the mass produced counterpart.

VaughnMichael 03-18-2009 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 680397)
Have you seen the pictures of a Big Mac in McDonald's ads? Same general concept. The display or production copy is always better than the mass produced counterpart.

These ware totally different sculpts jester, I've worked in advertising I know that isn't real food in those advertisements.
Tokka and spitfire know what I'm talking about when it comes to these animated spider-man figures also.
Look at the back of the box next time and look at the figure they're selling you'll go wtf what happend to those figures?!?!

Jester 03-18-2009 12:24 AM

Yeah, I should have figured. I've seen it to. There was one figure in particular that this really bugged me with, but I can't remember which.

Oh, and I thought it had to be real food, it's just meticulously placed to look great. Am I wrong to assume that it has something to do with "truth" in advertising? Or do you mean "the real food" as in what you actually get?

VaughnMichael 03-18-2009 02:41 AM

Like for ice cream we use mashed pototatoes because ice cream would melt quickly under the heat of the lights.

Wes 03-18-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 680376)
Venom was the only Spider-Man animated figure I picked up, but mostly because his articulation wasnt terrible and his paint and such was really fantastic.

Wait, what? Besides Doc Ock, I think Venom has the least articulation of any of the Spider-Man animated figures. He's got what, eight POA? No leg articulation other than swivel hips? That's pretty pitiful.

Ninjinister 03-18-2009 03:48 PM

Still more than most Playmates figures.... >.<

Brodie 03-18-2009 05:11 PM

In comparison to some of the older Venom figures I own, he's not too bad. But yeah, its about 8. But atleast most of those 8 points are ball/swivel.

And when positioned correctly, his articulation makes sense with his body. The Spider-Man figures in that line look funny. Like, just standing he looks awkward. No position makes sense, cause one hand always looks like he should be carrying a gun.


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