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Vegita-San 02-07-2009 08:52 AM

Mirage Panel
 
Part 1 is currently converting in it's proper HD....Hopefully will be done in the 30 minute time frame it suggests. by 11AM it should be viewable again....

http://www.vimeo.com/3118182

Roseangelo 02-07-2009 10:30 AM

Yay! Thanks Neil! Can't wait to see the rest!

LeoNerdo 02-07-2009 11:55 AM

cool, thanks a lot!

dripgutz24 02-07-2009 12:28 PM

That's a sweet video, I hope if there is another one they talk about the future TMNT.

Andrew NDB 02-07-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dripgutz24 (Post 669901)
That's a sweet video, I hope if there is another one they talk about the future TMNT.

I'd imagine you'd prefer to hear positive news instead of that, though, wouldn't you?

dripgutz24 02-07-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 669910)
I'd imagine you'd prefer to hear positive news instead of that, though, wouldn't you?

Both would be great.

Jester 02-07-2009 04:24 PM

Hooray Neil, any reason as to why Murph dropped out as moderator?

Raph's Girl 02-07-2009 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 669940)
Hooray Neil, any reason as to why Murph dropped out as moderator?

His wife (I think it was his wife) posted on Facebook that he's sick.

Jester 02-07-2009 04:58 PM

You're his (or his wife's) Facebook friend?

But he is in NY....hmmm...

Raph's Girl 02-07-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 669953)
You're his (or his wife's) Facebook friend?

But he is in NY....hmmm...

No, Im Jake Black's facebook friend. She posted on Jake's wall.

Vegita-San 02-07-2009 08:41 PM

I want to get some of the smaller stuff up first, and I'll render the rest of the Mirage panel. Hopefully part 2 will be up before midnight

Vegita-San 02-07-2009 10:04 PM

Part 2 being rendered, or re-rendered now....

Should be up by tomorrow....

Archon_Turtle 02-07-2009 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 669940)
Hooray Neil, any reason as to why Murph dropped out as moderator?

Steve had a flu bug. He was making friends with the toilet all day. He was up and about at the con today (saturday).

twopinacoladas 02-08-2009 02:32 AM

Nice thanks for posting :)

gobo 02-08-2009 05:43 AM

Neil rocks! ^_^

Vegita-San 02-08-2009 08:27 AM

Part 2
http://www.vimeo.com/3129813

Part 3
http://www.vimeo.com/3129835


Should be Done converting by 10:30

I left 10 minutes early to see the end of another panel

Vegita-San 02-08-2009 01:16 PM

Part 2 and 3 are now active....

Typing this from the con.....The TMNT 25 Panel will be up before the end of the day...

CyberCubed 02-08-2009 02:08 PM

The fans shouldn't have asked them questions about the old toon, the Mirage guys couldn't answer them since none of them really watched the old show.

Vegita-San, were you the one who asked them about the red sky seasons?

Mr._Mutant_Man 02-08-2009 04:29 PM

I like how they mentioned the lack of press when it comes to Splinter's death. I know he's not as mainstream a character as Robin, but you'd think even among comic fans it would be bigger news.

Roseangelo 02-08-2009 05:00 PM

I agree that Splinter's death should have gotten more press, but considering how he died I'm glad it didn't.

Jester 02-08-2009 05:04 PM

How did he die? Heart attack, stroke? Became a glowing cloud of dust and evaporating into nothing?

Roseangelo 02-08-2009 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 670224)
How did he die? Heart attack, stroke? Became a glowing cloud of dust and evaporating into nothing?

He keeled over in a closet, or while reaching for milk in the fridge. Something like that involving an apparent heart attack.

Vegita-San 02-08-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 670173)
The fans shouldn't have asked them questions about the old toon, the Mirage guys couldn't answer them since none of them really watched the old show.

Vegita-San, were you the one who asked them about the red sky seasons?

Nope,

I asked about the rat king in the new toon at thetmnt 25th anniversary panel...

Surprise answer there for rat king fans :)

Raph's Girl 02-08-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 670224)
How did he die? Heart attack, stroke? Became a glowing cloud of dust and evaporating into nothing?

He'd been having heart problems from the get go in Vol 4 (you could see him cringe in pain every once in a while). His heart finally gave out in the broom closet on the farm (which is now like a retirement home for super heroes)

Altho according to Tales of the TMNT he really ascended and became the new Rat God/Rat King in this Pantheon of Animal gods....the Bat King looks like Batman. The Cat Queen and Splinter appear to be ahem quite close....

Since his death he's appeared in dreams to Mike and Raph, helped Raph with his feral anger issues (after he was bitten by vampires), and for some reason appeared to April in Alaska.

Andrew NDB 02-08-2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 670224)
How did he die? Heart attack, stroke? Became a glowing cloud of dust and evaporating into nothing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 670225)
He keeled over in a closet, or while reaching for milk in the fridge. Something like that involving an apparent heart attack.

He seemed to be clutching his chest, I think, so I'm guessing a massive coronary.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 670219)
I agree that Splinter's death should have gotten more press, but considering how he died I'm glad it didn't.

What people often forget about all the media attention the deaths of Superman, Captain America, and Batman have gotten for the comic books... is that the media doesn't have sleeper agents reading all the comics and reporting to their bosses whenever big deaths happen. No, the media is contacted BY DC, BY Marvel ahead of time or after the fact, to generate and ride the buzz. I am fairly confident that no one at Mirage made any effort whatsoever to spread the word to any media outlet about the death of Splinter, before, when it came out, or afterward.

I really liked how Splinter's death was done. It seemed true to life, as shocking and sudden as it can often be. Everyone's first reactions seemed heartfelt. It reminded me of an old episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the one late into the show where Buffy just walks into the living room and oh... there's her mother, dead. Completely randomly, but effective thematically.

I do take serious issues with the follow-through on Splinter's death, however. The funeral was so-so, but I was really expecting things to take-off from there. Like, maybe Splinter left behind a Last Will & Testament, and the Turtles have to carry out his final wishes, maybe going to Chihaya Village in Japan or something. Anything.

Also, I would've liked to have seen some follow-up on the vision of Splinter's death from TMNT Vol. 2 #1, but what can you do.

Andrew NDB 02-08-2009 05:31 PM

Possibly dumb question now. Why wasn't Peter Laird at the Mirage panel?

Roseangelo 02-08-2009 05:36 PM

(Ok, trying to type this out fast enough before my rabbit shuts down Firefox again...)

I would have no issues with how Splinter died if there had been actual consequences to the story. But there weren't and Mirage couldn't even make it into a publicity stunt, so the whole thing is just a joke to me now.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 670236)
Possibly dumb question now. Why wasn't Peter Laird at the Mirage panel?

I think the official reason is simply that it was never planned for him to be (I know, not much of a reason). My personal guess would be an unwillingness to face audience questions.

Wes 02-08-2009 05:37 PM

Bloody hell, this thread needs a warning! I'm reading about massive heart attacks and remembered the stuff about Murph being sick and I was like :o :cry:

...but apparently you were talking about Splinter. Okey-doke, then! Carry on. :)

ToTheNines 02-08-2009 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 670227)
Nope,

I asked about the rat king in the new toon at thetmnt 25th anniversary panel...

Surprise answer there for rat king fans :)

Lemme guess, all that "sewer snow" was actually white rat sh*t?

turkishproverb 02-08-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 670236)
Possibly dumb question now. Why wasn't Peter Laird at the Mirage panel?

Didn't want to have to deal with questions from fans who thought he was flushing the franchise?

johnnyblaze 02-09-2009 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 670236)
Possibly dumb question now. Why wasn't Peter Laird at the Mirage panel?

tired I guess
http://plairdblog.blogspot.com/2009/...c-day-one.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 670239)


I think the official reason is simply that it was never planned for him to be (I know, not much of a reason). My personal guess would be an unwillingness to face audience questions.


Quote:

Originally Posted by turkishproverb (Post 670301)
Didn't want to have to deal with questions from fans who thought he was flushing the franchise?

:roll:
Lame responses. If he was hiding from fans with questions then he wouldn't have been sitting all weekend at his booth meeting and shooting the **** with fans. If anyone had questions you had all weekend to talk to him one on one at the booth.

Dragon Turtle 02-09-2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 670234)
What people often forget about all the media attention the deaths of Superman, Captain America, and Batman have gotten for the comic books... is that the media doesn't have sleeper agents reading all the comics and reporting to their bosses whenever big deaths happen. No, the media is contacted BY DC, BY Marvel ahead of time or after the fact, to generate and ride the buzz. I am fairly confident that no one at Mirage made any effort whatsoever to spread the word to any media outlet about the death of Splinter, before, when it came out, or afterward.

Mirage doesn't have anyone to handle such duties, I don't believe they have anyone there to let the media know when the next comic is due out.


Quote:

I do take serious issues with the follow-through on Splinter's death, however. The funeral was so-so, but I was really expecting things to take-off from there. Like, maybe Splinter left behind a Last Will & Testament, and the Turtles have to carry out his final wishes, maybe going to Chihaya Village in Japan or something. Anything.

Also, I would've liked to have seen some follow-up on the vision of Splinter's death from TMNT Vol. 2 #1, but what can you do.
Splinter is really alive, TMNT Vol. 4 will be revealed as Mikey's dream.
If you don't have a plan to deal with a characeter's death, don't kill them off, TMNT needs all the developed and established characters it can get.

Ninjinister 02-09-2009 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon Turtle (Post 670501)
Splinter is really alive, TMNT Vol. 4 will be revealed as Mikey's dream.
If you don't have a plan to deal with a characeter's death, don't kill them off, TMNT needs all the developed and established characters it can get.

Nah, the end of Volume 4 will conclude with April sitting in a corner chewing on her hair, wearing a straight jacket. She's in a padded cell. Oroku Saki is the tough security that she hates so much. Casey Jones is the doctor that treats her; she has a fixation on him. The Turtles were her pets as a kid; Splinter a rat she saw in the parking lot once. The entire series was a delusion in her mind.

And I swear to God if that's how things end, I'm pretty sure Mirage Studios would go bankrupt or get carpet bombed.

Andrew NDB 02-09-2009 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon Turtle (Post 670501)
Mirage doesn't have anyone to handle such duties, I don't believe they have anyone there to let the media know when the next comic is due out.

Nonsense. It just takes a simple E-mail to AICN, a simple E-mail to Newsarama, to Wizarduniverse.com or comicon.con or simply visiting "Contact Us" at any news station. 5 minutes of work in all to send a multi-E-mail to all.

Quote:

TMNT Vol. 4 will be revealed as Mikey's dream.
I was giving serious thought to wanting to see something... similar to that. I was thinking/hoping at the conclusion of Vol. 4, maybe the Utroms finally decide that their contact with Earth has been a failure. All aliens head offworld and mankind's memory is wiped of the alien encounter.

Dragon Turtle 02-09-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 670533)
Nonsense. It just takes a simple E-mail to AICN, a simple E-mail to Newsarama, to Wizarduniverse.com or comicon.con or simply visiting "Contact Us" at any news station. 5 minutes of work in all to send a multi-E-mail to all.

Yet no one does that, nor is anyone asked to do so, despite how easy it is. Mirage as a company doesn't see the value in a such a thing.

TristanHuwJones 02-09-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 670533)
Nonsense. It just takes a simple E-mail to AICN, a simple E-mail to Newsarama, to Wizarduniverse.com or comicon.con or simply visiting "Contact Us" at any news station. 5 minutes of work in all to send a multi-E-mail to all.

Trust me when I tell you it is far from as easy as this.

Andrew NDB 02-09-2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones (Post 670542)
Trust me when I tell you it is far from as easy as this.

Trust me when I tell you it is. I've done it before... and within the past two months.

Though that doesn't guarantee the media would be interested. I bet Splinter's death would've perked up some ears, if not quite as many as did for Superman, Captain America, etc.. A Wizard article at the least.

johnnyblaze 02-09-2009 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 670533)
Nonsense. It just takes a simple E-mail to AICN, a simple E-mail to Newsarama, to Wizarduniverse.com or comicon.con or simply visiting "Contact Us" at any news station. 5 minutes of work in all to send a multi-E-mail to all.



I was giving serious thought to wanting to see something... similar to that. I was thinking/hoping at the conclusion of Vol. 4, maybe the Utroms finally decide that their contact with Earth has been a failure. All aliens head offworld and mankind's memory is wiped of the alien encounter.

They don't post all news though. Maybe they don't think its big enough news. I mean Splinter is popular, but he's in no way Superman level popular so to expect a whole lot is a bit naive I think. Not every character that dies in a comic is going to get a lot of press. I mean for all we know, people could have written and said something and the result was still not a lot of press.

TristanHuwJones 02-09-2009 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 670544)
Trust me when I tell you it is. I've done it before... and within the past two months.

Though that doesn't guarantee the media would be interested. I bet Splinter's death would've perked up some ears, if not quite as many as did for Superman, Captain America, etc.. A Wizard article at the least.

Dude, you know what I mean. The act itself is easy as piss, getting the outlets interested enough to run something is an entirely different story. I've been trying to get it done for Mirage for the past year and only just recently did SOME websites decide they wanted in on the 25th, and even then the support has been sketchy!

Andrew NDB 02-09-2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones (Post 670582)
Dude, you know what I mean. The act itself is easy as piss, getting the outlets interested enough to run something is an entirely different story. I've been trying to get it done for Mirage for the past year and only just recently did SOME websites decide they wanted in on the 25th, and even then the support has been sketchy!

Right, because apart from the 25th Anniversary (and even that... is there even concrete release dates on any of the coinciding tentpole comics like Forever War?), there haven't been any events that have been newsworthy with the TMNT comics (and I don't mean that as a slight to the comics, I just mean it in terms of news to Joe Public... "This month, Donatello Gets Shrunk!" doesn't rustle up much general public interest).


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