TMNT 25 years of Animation - Panel Discussion
 

Uploading Parts 1 and 2.

http://www.youtube.com/NTV1978

Hopefully done uploading and converting by 12AM. I'm working on over drive trying to get this stuff up, and it's time to go to bed :).

I'm sure some kind sole can post the youtube url when they are done :)...thanks!

Part 1-6
 

Hey, you mods. I'm a double-post. Delete me, goshdarnit! :goof:

Good to see part 2 wasn't the end of it.

None of that was informative to why the animation of the Turtles is quote, "25 years and going strong."

I was looking forward to seeing what the future had in store for the TMNT.

They kept saying "8 seasons" but if BTTS is the last, isn't that 7? :ohwell: Does that mean there is another season?

Thanks Vegita! I can't wait to see the rest, but don't rush yourself (I've been overworking a lot recently too...last night I was up until 4am :o) :3

I think other people are confused thinking FF was 2 seasons. After all, it was 26 episodes split up into 2 13 episode segments, and while over 13 aired in one TV season, the remainder aired the following season. So it's probably 8 broadcast seasons on a technicality that they're counting.

Unless the real season 7 was the episodes for FF they didn't get to go into production. You know the REAL lost season.

Uploading the rest of the stuff now..


All 6 parts should be up around 2 depending on how fast youtube is

Did anyone ask them the future of the show?

I think that's the real reason.

Yep, it's in there

Thanks a ton for the upload...I can't find any of the parts past part 2 though...Anyone see them?

Also...anyone get excited when one of the writers mentioned he was most proud of his work on the upcoming dvd?:D

Currently uploading.. Youtube is being REALLY slow as of late...
Part 3 is only at 97% and it's been going for at least an hour

They aren't sure whats going on, Someone mentioned its like this for most of the seasons but nothing to this extent.

They are however very excited about the movie length episode they are working on. Its supposed to be finished by June, it may debut at the SDCC this year and it deals with new characters meeting up with some older characters. Thats all they would say other than its pretty much seems to be the favorite 2K3 project for the majority of the panel. I'm buying my SDCC ticket Friday lol.

Also keep your eye out for the Rat King.

What the devil...?

Not... gonna...happen. Straight from Laird's Mouth himself. BTTS? A-th-th-the-the-the-the-That's All Folks.

I wonder if they were actually planning to announce that during SDCC, since that one's the big event where they usually unveil plans for everything.

New characters meeting old characters? Gah...This dtv is the one tmnt thing I'm pretty excited about right now, but as much as I love the old toon....I just don't get excited over them meeting up with 2k3 turtles. I am just having trouble thinking of a good story that could come out of that.... I rather see a remake of "The River" or something comic related. Merging old and new tmnt just seems kinda silly..

"Were the silly ninja turtles! :p!"

"oh ya? turtles count it off!!!"

...Still keeping faith if the writers and producers are pretty excited about it though.

They aren't sure whats going on, Someone mentioned its like this for most of the seasons but nothing to this extent.

^^^^^

Hmmm... This makes me wonder if maybe we are jumping the gun a bit.

Sure it could be over, but Laird did mention the words "for now," which to me means either -

1. A new season could be produced at anytime between now and September.

2. A new series will come some years down the line.

Funny thing is that when someone says, as of now, that could mean anything.

Guess only time will tell.

Still boggles me with the whole "25 years and going strong," in terms of animation. If it were really ending, that wouldn't be showing how strong it is correct?

What also boggles me is this Rat King nonsense. If there are only two episodes left, how can we get a Rat King episode?

Also, how will we see the Shredder War from the start of season 8?

They want to premiere it at SDCC.

Some asked if Rat King was going to be back. They said to look for him to show up.

It may not be like that exactly. They wouldn't really elaborate. It could very well be them introducing 2k3 versions of Bebop and Rocksteady or using the Technodrome or something like that. All I know is that it involves multiple old school characters.

DTV maybe...if this DTV is going to be the last go for the 2K3 show then they are likely trying to go out with a bang so who knows what characters may show up.

I think I would faint from how awesome that would be.

Bad-ass reboots of Bebop and Rocksteady are long overdue.

Did they blatently say production is done on the series?

Part 3 is up and part 4 is processing. Part 5 is uploading now

no, just that they don't know whats going on as of right now.

The reason I ask is because...won't these people be out of a job once the show ends? I imagine 4kids would move them to their other shows, but if the production staff doesn't even know their show is done, how do they still know if they have a job in the Fall?

I don't know how it works in their business but I imagine just that, they have other shows or projects lined up once they finish up TMNT.

I wish they'd just come out and say the show is done then. If Mirage and 4kids both say the same things about not knowing what is going on, then who is this up to...Playmates?

It seems like the cartoon won't even have a real ending.

I like how Lloyd in part 3 says "how it affects us going forward," when talking about the show, when asked about Playmates meshing the movie line into the cartoon by making them add eyes to the Turtles.

For a show that is supposedly ending, they never allude to it.

Actually Playmates does have some influence lol. They did mention that they do get involved sometimes to a pretty big degree (the last big time they got involved Fast Forward was the end result). According to them though Laird is a bit of a buffer between them, always telling them if Playmates wants something and they can't make it work don't worry about it and don't force it. Overall its just simply a lot of factors and minds that all have to line up to get seasons off the ground. Look at Spectacular Spider-Man for example, they are in a similar boat.

I'm really thinking the DTV is supposed to be the real ending.

Part 4 is up. Part 5 is processing, and part 6 is uploading. Should be all done and with a 'Watch in HD' link by 5PM at the rate it's going now.

I'm uploading the Mirage panel next since it got approval from Steve, and Jim at least....

So based on part 4, there is no confirmation of an end to the show.

I'm sure if people on this board were told hey the show is ending, and other websites report as such, then the people who make the show would've said the same thing.

For some reason though, they are on a wait and see status. Straight from the horses mouth.

So for now on, I will base my assumptions on a wait and see, but anything can happen. If it happens, it happens, if it doesn't, I hope the info comes to light here, based on actual fact.

Just got done watching 4 and 5, and it is more informative then the first 3. Can't wait to see the final one.

Thanks for uploading these Vegeta.

What do they mean expect Rat King? I doubt he'll be in the turtle titan ep, and if he's in the last episode that's gonna be so much **** crammed into one episode.

What I think they meant about that is that Rat King will be in the DTV, thats my take on that.

He'll probably make a cameo in the last episode. Since Karai and Bishop are in the episode its safe to assume most if not all the TMNT villains will make appearances.

Wait minute...

So the movie (or rather, Playmates' reaction to it) was responsible for the stylistic change as early as Fast Foward, and for the smaller episode count this season?

That's total balls.

Fast Forward was already on the air when the '07 movie premiered. So, color me confused.

When asked how the new movie affected the show, they replied that when Playmates decided to focus on the more high-profile movie figures, it lead to budgetary restraints on the show. I assume part of these restraints was the simpler style and shorter seasons. These could have been enacted well before the movie actually premiered.

Not that I don't enjoy Fast Foward (I'm part of the minority that does), but if the show had money taken away because of the inferior movie, it's a real shame.

I don't get that either. 4kids' budget on animation didn't have anything to do with the movie.

The only affect the movie really had was giving the Turtles pupils in BTTS.

And making April paper-thin...

Paraphrasing: "When Playmates saw that the movie was generating more hype, and that movie-based toys would sell better than cartoon-based toys, they removed some of their funding. This lead to, among other things, smaller episode counts."

And, I assume, cheaper animation, as this would have been around the time Fast Foward was in conception.

Ditto. Weren't they also the ones who wanted the show to be lighter and funnier? Which means there the main ones to blame for why the writing for FF was simpler and lower quality than 2k3.

There also probably the main reason for there being BttS instead of FF season 2. :ohwell: