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Shredder 02-19-2009 09:45 PM

Street Fighter IV
 
Since this highly anticipated game is now out, and as a longtime Street Fighter fan myself, I thought Street Fighter IV deserves a thread of its own. I don't have it just yet, but will add my thoughts once I've played it. Does it live up to the hype? Discuss.

ThirdMarioBro 02-19-2009 09:48 PM

Yeah, safe to call it the best in the series by this point. Everything just flows. My only gripe is that Chun-Li isn't as effective as she used to be. I don't necessarily think she's been nerfed in any way, but that the game is so well balanced. All that location testing seems to have paid off.

愛 02-19-2009 10:03 PM

I've been playing the Street Fighter Anniversary Collection on PS2 to help get used to the fighting system they use, and it's helped a lot for SFIV. I play it at school when I have some downtime. We have every console going. It's been a lot of fun, until the big fighting game homos who take gaming too seriously come in and ruin all of the fun. :cry:

Cure 02-19-2009 10:10 PM

I want it so baddddddddddddd.

I have a question. Why has the Alpha series pretty much been forgotten? When i was young, I thought that was the official series.

Brodie 02-19-2009 11:27 PM

Don't worry, Cure, the new Chun Li Movie Film For Theaters is using Alpha cannon.

That's exciting. Isn't that exciting?

That's exciting.

Andrew NDB 02-19-2009 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 673954)
Don't worry, Cure, the new Chun Li Movie Film For Theaters is using Alpha cannon.

That's exciting. Isn't that exciting?

That's exciting.

Why wouldn't the Street Fighter Alpha (titled "Street Fighter Zero" in Japan) trilogy be canon? The whole thing is basically Street Fighter 1.5, as it takes place in between Street Fighter 1 and Street Fighter 2.

Oddly enough, story-wise, Street Fighter 4 takes place in between Street Fighter 2 and Street Fighter 3, making it kind of a Street Fighter 2.5... which isn't entirely inappropriate, since Street Fighter 4 imports the entire roster of Street Fighter 2 and Street Fighter 3 only had Ryu, Ken, Akuma, and Chun-Li.

Ninjinister 02-19-2009 11:59 PM

Street Fighter canon (sticking strictly to SF games, not including Final Fight and some such), goes as follows:

Street Fighter
Street Fighter Alpha 2 (the first one's canon is overwritten by this one)
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter II (Super Turbo Uber-Hyper Megamix HD or whatever :p... they keep re-releasing this game over and over, so the most recent release is the most up-to-date canon-wise)
Street Fighter IV
Street Fighter III 2nd Impact (Overwrites the original SF III's canon)
Street Fighter III 3rd Strike (Epilogue to SF III/2nd Impact)

Thank God this monstrosity isn't canon....

ThirdMarioBro 02-20-2009 02:15 AM

I love the EX moves. You've got to watch the power bar pretty closely now when managing the specials, but everything is so easy to pull off. Compared to SFIII, this is boss. You've got all the complexity of the best of the series, but in a control style that is manageable and grounded. That was my problem with 3rd Strike. Unless you could play at a godly level, you weren't going to keep up with pros. I consider myself a GIANT Street Fighter series fan, but my skill level has never been close to that of a pro. They've actually created a game that appeals across the board. The last game in the series to do that was SSFIITurbo, and people have been playing that for 15 years+ now. SFIV is fighting perfection.

Andrew NDB 02-20-2009 02:25 AM

In other words, you wanted a button-mashing unskilled fighter game? Doesn't sound like SF is for you... I recommend Tekken. SF represents a true test of skill.

Brodie 02-20-2009 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 673956)
Why wouldn't the Street Fighter Alpha (titled "Street Fighter Zero" in Japan) trilogy be canon? The whole thing is basically Street Fighter 1.5, as it takes place in between Street Fighter 1 and Street Fighter 2.

I think you missed the point of my post.

愛 02-20-2009 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 673985)
In other words, you wanted a button-mashing unskilled fighter game? Doesn't sound like SF is for you... I recommend Tekken. SF represents a true test of skill.

Tekken isn't a button-mashing unskilled fighting game, either. A button-mashing game is Guilty Gear. Also, SF isn't a "true test of skill."

Ninjinister 02-20-2009 01:14 PM

I'm going to start stabbing people if this starts to get elitist. If you want to do this, SRK's more up your alley.

愛 02-20-2009 06:23 PM

I'm not getting elitist. Hell, I'm not even good at fighting games. I just enjoy them. It's when people start to get too serious business about something, it ruins all of the fun. This is especially disheartening when it takes place in a public place where many people of differing skills go against each other, which happens all of the time where I play.

Brodie 02-20-2009 06:35 PM

Has anyone else had trouble getting online matches? It takes forever to find a Quickmatch, on either Ranked or Player settings. Why the hell do they call it Quickmatch?!

I'm in a weird place, because I -played- SF2 and 3 when I was younger, but I never PLAYED (lived) SF. It was just something I'd drop quarters into at the arcade, or would rent from the video store. I was never any good, because it wasn't something that was engrained in my childhood completely.

So, here I was, playing SF4...And I felt like I missed the boat. A game hasn't made me feel like I sucked this bad since Megaman 9. It feels like to train for this game, I needed to have been playing for the passed 10+ years.

I played through the first arcade mode....then hit up training/challenges. Then I played a few matches with Stryker, and then his Gold membership expired (hilarity), so I ended up playing various people online.

I've come to find out that there are people who are ridiculously good, then there's people like me. Those people being the ones who haven't really picked up a fighting game like this in a long time (or are picking up a SF game for the first time ever).

So, its kind of neat, being able to get that sense of accomplishment for learning, and practicing, and pulling off moves as one specific character. Its essentially finding the series over again, and getting that sense of, I dunno, "wonder" that people who LOVE SF found when they were younger, and TRAINED on this game.

(If only SF was essentially like the Last Starfighter)

Since I paid money for this game, I feel OBLIGATED to learn, and train, and have -fun- with the game. So far it has been really fun. I was getting my ass handed to me for a while, but I stuck with it, and it was still fun.

Ninjinister 02-20-2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ai (Post 674153)
I'm not getting elitist. Hell, I'm not even good at fighting games. I just enjoy them. It's when people start to get too serious business about something, it ruins all of the fun. This is especially disheartening when it takes place in a public place where many people of differing skills go against each other, which happens all of the time where I play.

Shots weren't aimed at you, but good to know anyway. That's exactly how I am; I own 100-some fighting games, and still suck at 'em.

Cure 02-21-2009 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 674155)
Has anyone else had trouble getting online matches? It takes forever to find a Quickmatch, on either Ranked or Player settings. Why the hell do they call it Quickmatch?!

I'm in a weird place, because I -played- SF2 and 3 when I was younger, but I never PLAYED (lived) SF. It was just something I'd drop quarters into at the arcade, or would rent from the video store. I was never any good, because it wasn't something that was engrained in my childhood completely.

So, here I was, playing SF4...And I felt like I missed the boat. A game hasn't made me feel like I sucked this bad since Megaman 9. It feels like to train for this game, I needed to have been playing for the passed 10+ years.

I played through the first arcade mode....then hit up training/challenges. Then I played a few matches with Stryker, and then his Gold membership expired (hilarity), so I ended up playing various people online.

I've come to find out that there are people who are ridiculously good, then there's people like me. Those people being the ones who haven't really picked up a fighting game like this in a long time (or are picking up a SF game for the first time ever).

So, its kind of neat, being able to get that sense of accomplishment for learning, and practicing, and pulling off moves as one specific character. Its essentially finding the series over again, and getting that sense of, I dunno, "wonder" that people who LOVE SF found when they were younger, and TRAINED on this game.

(If only SF was essentially like the Last Starfighter)

Since I paid money for this game, I feel OBLIGATED to learn, and train, and have -fun- with the game. So far it has been really fun. I was getting my ass handed to me for a while, but I stuck with it, and it was still fun.

Dude, this is a long post for you. Good job.

And you make me want the game so much more. Butthole.

The Stryker 02-21-2009 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 674155)

I played through the first arcade mode....then hit up training/challenges. Then I played a few matches with Stryker, and then his Gold membership expired (hilarity)

Screw you!

It was jesus saving you from another Dan beating!

Peanut 02-21-2009 12:57 AM

I'd rather play Mortal Kombat.

Dr. Doom 02-21-2009 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 674248)
I'd rather play Mortal Kombat.

You piece of ****.

Barkworm 02-21-2009 03:00 AM

The last two posts are very promising. Keep it up guys!

ThirdMarioBro 02-21-2009 03:17 AM

This game is ****ING HARD. Damn, the adaptive AI is just psychopathic.

Ninjinister 02-21-2009 04:56 AM

Something I noticed in Guile's opening...

Spoiler:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/...aab05fcd_o.png

For the first time in a game's canon, Guile's buddy is referred to as having both the names Charlie (English world name) and Nash (Japanese name) - as his given and family names, respectively. While this was used outside canon, such as Udon's comics, this is the only occurrence of it in a game.

Peanut 02-21-2009 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom (Post 674257)
You piece of ****.

Street Fighter is for nerds without girlfriends. And if they do have girlfriends, they're fat and/or ugly...or dudes pretending to be girls.

Ninjinister 02-21-2009 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 674505)
Street Fighter is for nerds without girlfriends. And if they do have girlfriends, they're fat and/or ugly...or dudes pretending to be girls.

Right. And Bill Clinton is a Tarkatan.

Peanut 02-21-2009 11:46 PM

You're not funny.

Dr. Doom 02-21-2009 11:57 PM

Yes, god forbid anyone enjoy a game featuring interesting, well-conceived, likable characters with smooth controls and animations and deep gameplay when you could instead run home from the Slipknot concert and rub one out into an empty Skoal tin over whatever clunky, half assed, unplayable, mind-numbingly retarded piece of **** Midway managed to squeeze out of their cheeks before they went belly up. What the **** were we thinking?

Cure 02-22-2009 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom (Post 674516)
Yes, god forbid anyone enjoy a game featuring interesting, well-conceived, likable characters with smooth controls and animations and deep gameplay when you could instead run home from the Slipknot concert and rub one out into an empty Skoal tin over whatever clunky, half assed, unplayable, mind-numbingly retarded piece of **** Midway managed to squeeze out of their cheeks before they went belly up. What the **** were we thinking?

Haha, relax, homie. You're acting like you don't know Peanut.

Peanut 02-22-2009 12:20 AM

lawl. I love when Doom thinks I care.

Dr. Doom 02-22-2009 12:47 AM

I'm very passionate about video games! >:[

Barkworm 02-22-2009 02:04 AM

Hahaha, good stuff guys!

ThirdMarioBro 02-22-2009 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom (Post 674516)
Yes, god forbid anyone enjoy a game featuring interesting, well-conceived, likable characters with smooth controls and animations and deep gameplay when you could instead run home from the Slipknot concert and rub one out into an empty Skoal tin over whatever clunky, half assed, unplayable, mind-numbingly retarded piece of **** Midway managed to squeeze out of their cheeks before they went belly up. What the **** were we thinking?

Actually, I prefer to shoot my wrist kids off into a plastic cup, but to each their own.

愛 02-22-2009 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 674505)
Street Fighter is for nerds without girlfriends. And if they do have girlfriends, they're fat and/or ugly...or dudes pretending to be girls.

I play Street Fighter, and I have a cute girlfriend. I SEE A HOLE IN YOUR LOGIC!

...but seriously, people who play SF for serious? This holds true.

Brodie 02-22-2009 11:32 AM

AI, Stop WITH LIES.

愛 02-22-2009 04:49 PM

I am no liar! I only speak the truth. :)

ThirdMarioBro 02-22-2009 08:38 PM

Tourney tards should be neutered so they don't spread their spawn. They ruin games for everybody. It's like playing championship Uno. Assholes.

Peanut 02-22-2009 08:42 PM

...Is there such thing as Championship Uno? I would lol so hard right now if there was.

R-iZZy 02-23-2009 04:47 AM

I'm still waiting on the game to arrive in the mail. But I've played it on the 360. Good God, I feel sorry for anyone who has to play this game with the 360's controller. That D-pad is atrocious. But the game controls a lot more smoothly with the DualShock 3,

And Seth is one of the cheapest f***ing bosses you'll ever have to face. I think he's worse than Gill. I promise you'll want to throw something when he whoops your a*s like 10 matches in a row.

Anyway, as soon as this game arrives in the mail (I'll have it for the PS3), I'm going to be locked up in my room with my Ryu headband on (not really) and bottles of GatorAde beside me.

The Stryker 02-23-2009 12:55 PM

I play it on the 360 controller and I have no complaints.

raphael_is_cool 02-23-2009 01:06 PM

I've been playing SSFIITHDR on PS3 and I'm not overjoyed with the d-pad on that.

Is SFIV a little more accomodating or would I suffer the same problems?

ThirdMarioBro 02-23-2009 09:56 PM

Buy a stick. I tried to use the fight pad/Saturn knockoff controller, but they just don't make 'em like they used to. The old Saturn controller was a perfectly suitable replacement for an arcade stick because the D-pad was so loose and nimble, but all the modern ones are stiff. I just gave up on it. The modern D-pads just aren't suited to fighting games, so I'm going to have to get an arcade stick for this baby to stand any chance.

And I've also come to the opinion that Chun-Li has been nerfed to holy hell. She's a sad husk of her former self. That's a big blow to me, as I'm a Chun-Li man since 1992. There was a day I could beat college kids in the arcade when I was nine with her, but I think that day is passed. I'm promoting Cammy to my main.


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