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Jester 03-08-2009 08:08 PM

When did Family Guy start to suck?
 
Hello all, Jester here, former Family Guy fan....I think. I'm watching the new episode right now and it seems to have lost something. Heck, it has lost something long ago and I don't know what it is. Anyone think they can help me out?

XERO 03-08-2009 08:15 PM

Wish I could, buddy, but I'm not great at deductive reasoning.

Family Guy is like the Bermuda Triangle of cartoons. You're curious to explore it, but at the cost of being viciously sucked into its phantom-like gravitational pull, never to return.

Cure 03-08-2009 08:32 PM

Maybe, oh, I dunno, your tastes have changed? The level of writing has gone down? It could be a number of things, but asking someone else why you don't like something anymore is a bit silly. It's all subjective.

Mr._Mutant_Man 03-08-2009 08:34 PM

I don't know. For me, it just reached a point where its formula got old.

Jester 03-08-2009 08:48 PM

I guess they are right, it is hard to type sarcasm. I know why I have started disliking Family Guy. Yes, my tastes may have changed, but it seems the series that was essentially just random pop culture references has become a lot more story driven, and the stories are very weak.

I guess I'll just watch American Dad, it's becoming the beter show by leaps and bounds.

MrPliggins 03-08-2009 10:06 PM

I missed tonight's FG, but I didn't think American Dad was very good either. I did lol a few times though.

Cipher 03-08-2009 10:10 PM

A year or two ago I would've answered "When it got brought back to life on Fox." I stopped watching it a few episodes into its return. It just didn't seem funny, even though I still thought the first three seasons were great.

Now I'm more tempted to answer "It never was funny." The people who maligned it as a series of jokeless, poorly constructed pop references were mostly right. Even still, there's a marked decrease in wit between seasons three and four.

American Dad absolutely lost me after the first two episodes. I couldn't even chuckle at it, and the few I've seen since haven't changed my mind.

Futurama4life.

XERO 03-08-2009 10:56 PM

Honestly, all I really care about now is The Boondocks.

ThirdMarioBro 03-08-2009 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cipher (Post 678180)
A year or two ago I would've answered "When it got brought back to life on Fox." I stopped watching it a few episodes into its return. It just didn't seem funny, even though I still thought the first three seasons were great.

The first (I think) episode played again on Adult Swim about an hour or so again. I thought it was bland and mundane, which is why I wrote the show off in 1999 when it premiered. The voices sucked, the personalities were there, but underutilized, and the show seemed to try too hard not to cross a certain line of taste. I didn't come back until the second time it got brought back. I watched all the backlog I had missed, and saw the show quickly appealed to me more the lower they sank.

Pretty much, every time somebody says that it "stopped being funny the second time they brought it back", I just think they either became more conservative within that time frame, or the show sank below their approval level because that is when they started hitting really low.

Family Guy is pretty much offensive to every kind of human on this Earth at some point or another. Gay, straight, religious, atheist, redneck, rich, fat, anorexic, aids/hiv victims--they nail everybody. They've offended me several times. Whether you can continue to find it funny as it journeys deeper into the bowels of comedy depends on how well you can laugh at yourself and laugh at life. They piss me off from time to time, but I shrug it off because something else will make me laugh a few minutes later.

Maybe it's an age thing. We all tend to take life more seriously as we age and things we laughed at before may not always make us laugh later on. Maybe I'll be posting something like this in three or four years, but I doubt it. My tastes in humor are borderline retarded--hence, why I watch Family Guy.

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 678153)
I guess I'll just watch American Dad, it's becoming the better show by leaps and bounds.

I have tried a zillion times to watch American Dad and like it, but I just can't. It's not funny. The show just comes off as an obnoxious, loud-mouthed blowhard of a TV series. Patrick Stewart is the only funny thing about the whole thing, and the ST:TNG reunion on Family Guy in a couple of weeks took away my last reason to attempt to like American Dad.

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Originally Posted by Benvenuto (Post 678187)
Honestly, all I really care about now is The Boondocks.

A show that I find it a crime that I don't watch regularly. Need to fix that.

Anarchistguy 03-09-2009 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Benvenuto (Post 678187)
Honestly, all I really care about now is The Boondocks.

That makes two of us. 8) :thumbsup:

Cipher 03-09-2009 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro (Post 678190)
Pretty much, every time somebody says that it "stopped being funny the second time they brought it back", I just think they either became more conservative within that time frame, or the show sank below their approval level because that is when they started hitting really low.

You seem to have completely misunderstood me. I love offensive humor. The problem with Family Guy isn't that it's offensive. It's that it's just not funny. The jokes fall flat. They always have, but it got even worse when it was brought back for a fourth season on Fox.

South Park, now that's offensive and funny.

And the age thing? Dude, you're older than me by five years.

ThirdMarioBro 03-09-2009 01:02 AM

Hmm...then I really have no clue what to tell you dude. I really don't.

XERO 03-09-2009 01:25 AM

It's not all age. There are some 62-year-olds who probably still watch Muppet Babies for all we know.

In the long run, I guess it's all on how you view comedy and the art of laughter, whether it's offensive, racist, clean, or even sexual.

Which, again, is why I only care for The Boondocks. It's all of the above. :lol:

Peanut 03-09-2009 06:18 AM

Family Guy got popular, that's why it isn't considered as funny anymore. Family Guy got so blown out of proportion when it was aborted that everyone thought it was some under-appreciated masterpiece of comedy when it was canned, but it really wasn't. It comes back, with the same retarded jokes, suddenly has a ton of fans, and then it isn't funny. That's how this sh*t works, kids.

I'm not even defending Family Guy. I don't watch it, and I've never been a big fan, but I remember when the show was being passed around the internet like some comical interweb doobie, and everyone thought Stewie wanting to kill Lois was comic genius. Sh*t gets old, the pop-media regurgitates the same tired shtick for a couple years and the anti-pop kids whine about how much it sucks, despite the fact they were blowing it when you had to torrent episodes of the show to even find it.

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Originally Posted by Cipher (Post 678193)
South Park, now that's offensive and funny.

See, I f*cking love South Park, but I can't say I've ever genuinely laughed at a joke they've made...ever. Everything they do is so lowest common denominator, wrapped in their typical right-wing, "we're so clever" message. I may have laughed at an immature joke or two when I was 15, but as the years moved on, South Park has become one of those shows where I'll sometimes vaguely think "that was funny" but never actually laugh. And is it really even offensive anymore? I mean, they've gone so far in so many directions that nothing they do strikes me as super offensive. It's kinda like "Oh, it's just South Park. No one really cares anymore."

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Honestly, all I really care about now is The Boondocks.
God. What a f*cking terrible show.

The Stryker 03-09-2009 06:34 AM

I agree, Boondocks is horrible.

ZariusTwo 03-09-2009 04:01 PM

It's fluxuated here and there, but Stewie's reendition of Brian Adams reminded me of the old fire.

"I'm not following the story arc here"

"SHUT UP"

Cowabunga Kiefer 03-09-2009 04:39 PM

Family Guy kinda seems to have lost its edge to me too. It still is funny, but perhaps it's that every single line they have or Peter has just HAS to be funny/stupid/completely exaggerated. It's just the same thing for every episode you watch is just them doing the silliest things for no apparent reason. Given it was very funny for the past __ years, but do we honestly think we will still be laughing on the floor for the next __ years if they keep pushing these overly exaggerated skits and events?...I'm still a fan though! "At Wilkin's Hyundai and Subaru, We have Hyundais and Subarus!"

Prowler 03-09-2009 04:47 PM

I never liked Family Guy, anyone can do that kind of humor.

Cleveland: I'm afraid I don't have enough money to pay the check.
Peter: This reminds me of the time when me and Jabba Jabba went to a whore house in China.

*Flashback*

I never felt offended, I just felt less intelligent.

ZariusTwo 03-09-2009 05:12 PM

Half of FG's art is that it knows it's a slacker series...it KNOWS it's unorginal, it KNOWS it's a reference comedy, it's just a bunch of fraternity boys hanging out and treating it's audience like there in the room smoking and laughing with them

Jester 03-09-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 678297)
Half of FG's art is that it knows it's a slacker series...it KNOWS it's unorginal, it KNOWS it's a reference comedy, it's just a bunch of fraternity boys hanging out and treating it's audience like there in the room smoking and laughing with them

Maybe that's just it. I feel it's stopped being that and is trying way to hard to be political satire in the vein of South Park, just from the other side, and it fails miserably at it.

Spike Spiegel 03-09-2009 06:43 PM

It has completely lost its humor to me....I mean, seriously, what's the point of this kind of humor in the first place? What central truth about humanity and human nature is it bringing to light, besides our shared potential to act like fools?

I loved the show when I was twelve, but I think my tastes and maturity level have greatly changed...and maybe that's a good thing.

Candy Kappa 03-09-2009 06:45 PM

I like family guy, I enjoy watching the weird non-humorous yet funny jokes

ThirdMarioBro 03-09-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger Smith (Post 678320)
It has completely lost its humor to me....I mean, seriously, what's the point of this kind of humor in the first place? What central truth about humanity and human nature is it bringing to light, besides our shared potential to act like fools?

I loved the show when I was twelve, but I think my tastes and maturity level have greatly changed...and maybe that's a good thing.

I feel sorry for you sir. Welcome to that period in life where we begin to refer to you as an "old fart".

Peanut 03-09-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger Smith (Post 678320)
It has completely lost its humor to me....I mean, seriously, what's the point of this kind of humor in the first place? What central truth about humanity and human nature is it bringing to light, besides our shared potential to act like fools?

Yeah, cause there has to be a meaning behind everything. Something can't be entertaining just for the sake of it.

GK Punk 03-09-2009 07:02 PM

I still enjoy family guy.

Candy Kappa 03-09-2009 07:32 PM

YES! I'm not alone:D

ThirdMarioBro 03-09-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GK (Post 678334)
I still enjoy family guy.

High five brother. Let's meet in a couple of hours in the VG forum, then we can slap five there.

Cure 03-09-2009 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger Smith (Post 678320)
It has completely lost its humor to me....I mean, seriously, what's the point of this kind of humor in the first place? What central truth about humanity and human nature is it bringing to light, besides our shared potential to act like fools?

I loved the show when I was twelve, but I think my tastes and maturity level have greatly changed...and maybe that's a good thing.

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Jester 03-09-2009 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro (Post 678396)
High five brother. Let's meet in a couple of hours in the VG forum, then we can slap five there.

So that's what they call it now-a-days.

Man I should write for Family Guy. :P

ZariusTwo 03-10-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger Smith (Post 678320)
I loved the show when I was twelve, but I think my tastes and maturity level have greatly changed...and maybe that's a good thing.

Implying FG's humour and appeal only applies to "immature people with s*it tastes" is well...an immature thought to begin with, so it can't be a case of growing out of it

No mate, your tastes didnt get better, you didnt mature more, you just got very boring.

Drtooth 03-10-2009 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 678297)
Half of FG's art is that it knows it's a slacker series...it KNOWS it's unorginal, it KNOWS it's a reference comedy, it's just a bunch of fraternity boys hanging out and treating it's audience like there in the room smoking and laughing with them

I think that's the problem... right there. It just became more and more of a pander to slacker Frat boys type thing, and we got less and less plot line... this season started off good, especially that Road to Berlin one, but then they fell back into the same habits of characters being over the top nasty, cut scenes that were poorly set up, and pushing envelopes that were already pushed years ago. But the show REALLY started to suck when it became "Adventure time with Stewie and Brian." I'm sorry, but Stewie was a much better character when he was an evil little Anti-Christ type... not when he was effeminate and said funny things in an effeminate voice. The one where Brian and Stewie refurbished the house, and they did lame jokes about not saying over and "Knock Knock" "Who's there?" "Two friends builing a house together."

But I still can enjoy the show. I liked last week's episode... first one I saw in a while (no thanks to my Fox affiliate). But American Dad is still the tops in my book. The show evolved while this one devolved.

VaughnMichael 03-10-2009 10:49 AM

I still dig the show very much and while this past weeks episode made me laugh out loud a few times I found some parts to be a bit much like the bloody dead horse even if Mort being so funny softend the blow.

ThirdMarioBro 03-10-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth (Post 678528)
But the show REALLY started to suck when it became "Adventure time with Stewie and Brian." I'm sorry, but Stewie was a much better character when he was an evil little Anti-Christ type...

That's one of the reasons it got canceled the first time. There's only so things you could do with "generic Antichrist matricidal baby". It got old after a few episodes. The writers transformed Stewie into a more multi-faceted character so that they would have more things to do with him. Besides, the little bastard still comes out of retirement from time to time.

The point here is, you liked the show better when it was more tame. American Dad is five times more tame than Family Guy. The simple fact is that you do not approve of Family Guy's record levels of vulgarity and are not willing to admit it for the fear of being called a prude.

Hannah 03-10-2009 02:55 PM

I like the Stewie and Brian relationship!

Jester 03-10-2009 04:43 PM

As do I. I've always like the "Road to..." episodes.

Gordo 03-10-2009 04:48 PM

The cutaway gags went from 2 seconds long to some being over a minute long. I couldn't take it after season 4.

Raven 03-10-2009 09:43 PM

I still love this show, but its appeal does tire on me from time to time. I find myself having more fun quoteing FG then sometimes watching it though.

Zachatello00 03-10-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 678299)
Maybe that's just it. I feel it's stopped being that and is trying way to hard to be political satire in the vein of South Park, just from the other side, and it fails miserably at it.

That's my biggest problem with it. I do have to admit I really enjoy parts of it, but for the most part, I'm all about South Park now. I don't think I'd get along with Seth McFarlene in real life.

ThirdMarioBro 03-10-2009 10:49 PM

Its fun to try to guess people's political beliefs based on what shows they like, and what shows they don't.

Jester 03-10-2009 10:55 PM

Ok....guess...:P
I like:
South Park and American Dad

I (have grown to) dislike:
Family Guy

What am I?


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