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cqb101 04-01-2009 09:20 AM

X-men Origins: Wolverine
 
I'm sure everybody knows this by now, but a work print of the new Wolverine film has leaked online - a full month before its release. I'm in the process of downloading it now (don't ask me for any links). I need to see how badly they ****ed up Deadpool.

Ninjinister 04-01-2009 09:35 AM

Ah, you got tricked into downloading a RickRoll, didn't you? April Fool's!

(Seriously, let us know how it went)

Sarah 04-01-2009 11:16 AM

yeah, I just saw it and I must admit that it was better than I thought it would be. as mentioned above, the film was a work print so most of the CG effects werent finished yet. Deadpool was a major disappointment but the rest of the movie was good. the story was pretty interesting and Patrick Stewart makes a cameo near the end. and as usual theres a extra scene after the credits finish, it's nothing special, but if you're one of those people that doesn't watch the end credits then you'll miss it. Id post a link but I don't think that Im allowed to post movie links even if it's a flash link.

Mr. Snackpants 04-01-2009 12:43 PM

I don't get why anyone would download this. If you go through the trouble of downloading it you're obviously anticipating it. Why ruin the movie by downloading a non polished copy and then watch it on your 21" screen?

Raph's Girl 04-01-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 683295)
and Patrick Stewart makes a cameo near the end.

The workprint doesn't have the re-shoots that were done in Vancouver a couple weeks back. Im not gonna DL it. There's no point when it's an unfinished product. But knowing Patrick Stewart is in it now makes me wanna see the movie even more! :evilgrin:

Ninjinister 04-04-2009 02:45 AM

Is Wade at least, y'know, Wade, in this? Funny, fourth wall breaking, and the like?

Jester 04-04-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ninjinister (Post 683812)
Is Wade at least, y'know, Wade, in this? Funny, fourth wall breaking, and the like?

Funny, yes. Fourth wall breaking *Burne Thompson voice* Nononono!

Ninjinister 04-04-2009 03:00 PM

Argh. That's disappointing. I expected him to say something like "Y'know I might be getting spinoff" or make some reference to the other three movies, or somesuch.

Brodie 04-04-2009 04:42 PM

Someone had downloaded it at school, and I watched it on a pretty big tv. The quality was decent. But no amount of CGI will save this movie.

Its not The Spirit-bad, but it isnt very good.

Jester 04-04-2009 04:51 PM

I think it trumps X-men 3.

Brodie 04-04-2009 05:01 PM

I feel like even though there was a TON of characters and cameos in X3, I feel like they gave more characters more time in that film than they did for characters they're touting in this movie. Like they essentially glaze over everyone BUT Wolverine.

Jester 04-04-2009 05:05 PM

Oddly, I felt the exact opposite way, I felt that with fewer characters there was a bit more given to this cast...but to each their own.

Lil G 04-20-2009 02:24 AM

i personally loved it. but i am the biggest fanatic of wolverine so ima be pretty biased lol. i liked it though. im not at all happy at what they did with deadpool but it fits into the story.:ohwell:

cqb101 04-20-2009 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lil G (Post 686178)
i personally loved it. but i am the biggest fanatic of wolverine so ima be pretty biased lol. i liked it though. im not at all happy at what they did with deadpool but it fits into the story.:ohwell:

I can't see how a Wolverine fanatic could have loved this movie.

Brodie 04-20-2009 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lil G (Post 686178)
i personally loved it. but i am the biggest fanatic of wolverine so ima be pretty biased lol. i liked it though. im not at all happy at what they did with deadpool but it fits into the story.:ohwell:

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Spitfire 04-21-2009 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cqb101 (Post 686199)
I can't see how a Wolverine fanatic could have loved this movie.

When your 12 years old any PG-13 action film is the "coolest movie" you've ever seen. If it's rated R then it's the "coolest movie in the entire universe", especially if boobs are present.

Jester 04-21-2009 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire (Post 686311)
When your 12 years old any PG-13 action film is the "coolest movie" you've ever seen. If it's rated R then it's the "coolest movie in the entire universe", especially if boobs are present.

You sir have illicited the slow clap.

Cipher 04-22-2009 03:32 PM

This film lost my ticket when the "bad-ass" one liner they picked to end the trailer was "I'll try cutting your head off and see if that works."

I know you're writing an action movie, but c'mon. Have a little bit of self-respect.

Raph's Girl 05-01-2009 03:32 PM

Welp. I've seen the Wolverine movie and I actually like it! There's a couple WTF moments where Emma Frost and "Deadpool" are concerned. They actually kinda gave Emma a background....
Spoiler:
What With Logan boinking her sister Kayla... :P...Im guessing that Emma's now of Native American descent...
. I haven't laughed while watching a movie so much in a while. It's got alot of funny liners like:

Spoiler:

"Pa.. I think there's a naked man in the barn..."
"Stryker finally got you to shut up..."
"Koo Koo Ca Choo got screwed..."
"Ok. They're dead now..."


Things I liked:
Spoiler:

Scott and Emma team up
Gambit
Prof. Xavier!
Wade's one liners


Total WTF moments:
Spoiler:

WTF? Prof. Xavier was walking?!
WTF?! Logan's from the Northwest Territories?! I thought he was from Alberta?!


They should have kept the Chibi Storm cameo. Course they had another potential cameo if they thought about it.
Spoiler:
I was half expecting Black Panther to show up! They used Vibranium to make Adamantium! They never named it but come on... a sacred rock from the sky in Africa?? Pft. :P

ZariusTwo 05-01-2009 03:52 PM

God what a peice of s*it. I'm glad the general consensus is pretty much against this movie.

Marvel are well known for not taking their time with some movies...they definatly rushed this nonsense out. Jackman completly forgot this was a prequel and acted more half-heartedly in the role than he did in X-Men 3. As such, I didnt care at all for what he was doing. The character inaccuracies, appauling acting, ludicrous plot contrivences, the wasting of a good character like Deadpool, and the unnecersary cameos all but make one ask why they didnt just botheh having Logan assemble a new team for himself and progress his story rather than lazily go through the motions.

This is no masterpeice folks. This is "X-Men for Dummies", it's for noone with any real respect for the character or the franchise.

R-iZZy 05-01-2009 04:47 PM

Okay, I'm going to keep this post extremely short. I've made my point known on other boards, but they happen to be very lenient with the things you can say.

All I can is what they did to Deadpool was inexcusable. What a horrible f***ing joke of a movie this is.

In my rants on other forums, I had a long list of complaints not only from a comic fanboy side, but from a movie critic side as well, but like I said, I'm keeping this post short.

Movie sucked, I should've seen the workprint so I could've at least saved my money; garbage retelling to an already great story. Butchered characters and histories. The movie took a complete piss on the source material and the readers of that material. If you don't care about it depicting the source material accurately and are just in it for the action, go for it. You'll enjoy it. If you came to see your beloved characters that you've grown up on come to life, look elsewhere cuz you won't find it here.

Brodie 05-01-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 688889)

Total WTF moments:
Spoiler:

WTF? Prof. Xavier was walking?!


Are you dumb? He wasn't always crippled. This just goes to show you don't know dick about anything you pretend to.

Raph's Girl 05-01-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 688911)
Are you dumb? He wasn't always crippled. This just goes to show you don't know dick about anything you pretend to.

Spoiler:
I know he wasn't always crippled!! He was crippled by an alien and was in a wheelchair when he first met Scott in the comics!! In the movie tho he's walking when he meets Scott, Emma, and the others! Yeesh!

cqb101 05-01-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 688931)
Spoiler:
I know he wasn't always crippled!! He was crippled by an alien and was in a wheelchair when he first met Scott in the comics!! In the movie tho he's walking when he meets Scott, Emma, and the others! Yeesh!

Of all the changes between the comics and movies, that's what you dwell on? Yeesh is right.

FlawedCoil82 05-01-2009 09:12 PM

I haven't seen this movie yet. I am not setting my hopes too high. So far, the best thing to come out of this movie was encouraging the long overdue release of the X-Men animated series. I will admit, I am not too knowledgeable about Deadpool, nor do I know his history, other than him being badly disfigured and being a smartass assassin. Although I doubt they can do as much damage to his character as X-Men 3 did to Cyclops, Professor X and Jean Grey. But I can't say for certain until I see it.
Jack

Raph's Girl 05-01-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FlawedCoil82 (Post 688963)
Although I doubt they can do as much damage to his character as X-Men 3 did to Cyclops, Professor X and Jean Grey. But I can't say for certain until I see it.
Jack

Just wait till you see the movie. You'll change your mind rather quickly.

FlawedCoil82 05-01-2009 09:21 PM

Did they give him the mutant ability to turn into a butterfly in the movie or what? :| I don't know Deadpool's backstory from the comics so if they made any major changes, I don't think that I would notice them (unless it's something really screwed up.....like them trying to say he is really the father of Wolverine or something). I have the 4 issue Deadpool comic mini-series somewhere....perhaps I should re-read them? It has been MANY years and I barely remember them.
Jack

Jester 05-01-2009 09:52 PM

Spoiler:
I just wanna know where Scott got the ruby-quartz sunglasses, before meeting Professor X. I know...minor nit pick. To be honest, I also know next to nothing about Wade. And were any of the other other members of the Weapon Squad supposed to be anyone from actual comic continuity? (Well, aside from Logan, Victor, and Blob...)

One big question I have is if the memory sector of Logan's brain was physically damaged and not psychically shielded, how can Professor Xavier pull the old memories to the surface. It's not like the were washed away through technology or mutant abilities, but physically blown away by a freakin' bullet.

Watching it again, it doesn't hold up...the "Stryker is pulling the strings" angle is very obvious...

Ginny 05-01-2009 10:14 PM

Well, I went this afternoon and I liked it. Although, and please excuse me for my "girly" moment, I think that is mainly due to Hugh Jackman being so freakin' hot and not the actual movie. But as much as that man makes me drool, I still can't say I loved it. There were some great scenes and funny lines though.

MasterShredder 05-01-2009 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FlawedCoil82 (Post 688966)
Did they give him the mutant ability to turn into a butterfly in the movie or what? :| I don't know Deadpool's backstory from the comics so if they made any major changes, I don't think that I would notice them (unless it's something really screwed up.....like them trying to say he is really the father of Wolverine or something). I have the 4 issue Deadpool comic mini-series somewhere....perhaps I should re-read them? It has been MANY years and I barely remember them.
Jack

Well....the blades coming out of his hands....BIG NO NO! Laser eyes, transportation, healing factor, and the absence of a mouth are not characteristics of our beloved Deadpool.

He is pretty much and highly skilled human-being. But as the story goes, he gets cancer, goes insane and becomes his usual wise-cracking, breaking the fourth wall, mercenary, self.

Ninjinister 05-01-2009 11:57 PM

Uh... Deadpool does have a healing factor. And teleportation (though that's because of a device and not a power).

Jade Green 05-02-2009 12:53 AM

I haven't read the comics in a while, so maybe someone can double check this for me: Dead Pool never had the power to teleport, it was thanks to a belt he wore.

...And I just reread Ninjinister's post, so yeah... the belt.

Voltron 05-02-2009 12:55 AM

I liked it. It was fun to watch. Story wasn't anything to write home about, but it was a nice way to pace two hours. Then again, I was never terribly familiar with some of the characters, so I could understand why some might be pissed.

R-iZZy 05-02-2009 03:20 AM

Since we're going on things to complain about:

Spoiler:
- Wolverine and Sabretooth are brothers? REALLY?
- When did Blob ever work for the Weapon X program?
- Deadpool after the experimentation; every-f***ing-thing about him screamed "I'm not Deadpool" with the Deadpool moniker to his name.
- To get more into Deadpool: optic blasts and the ability to teleport without a device? Having Wi-Fi in his brain and catching command prompts from Stryker?
- Emma Frost and Silver Fox being sisters? We're talking about a Native American and a straight-up Caucasian.
- Wolverine lost his memory to... wait for it... an adamantium bullet shot to the head. LMFAOOOOOOOOO!!!
- You borrowed elements from the Wolverine Origin story as it was, did you seriously need to go 3/4ths the way into the origin and then decide to put your own spin on it for the last quarter of the way? It was goddamn retarded.
- Deadpool once again. That was so f***ing horrible that it needed another mentioning. Seriously, they welded his mouth so he couldn't even be the Merc with the Mouth. What the fick fuggity f***?!
- Silver Fox had the ability to control minds? Wow. A lot different from the power she had in the comics... and I mean completely different.


These are just complaints from a comic fanboy perspective. I haven't even gone in on this movie from a film critic's perspective yet.

Candy Kappa 05-02-2009 03:51 AM

this one's awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1R5PhReY5k

what they done to deadpool in the movie sucks (of what eve heard and read)
but I'm gonna see this movie.

I hardly think they can screw deadpool like they did with nightcrawler

Ninjinister 05-02-2009 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa (Post 689058)

Saw that earlier today (love Marvel/DC)... I actually thought about posting it to tell people it was to make up for his treatment in the movie :lol:

Candy Kappa 05-02-2009 04:12 AM

at least deadpool looks awesome in the wolverine vs hullk movie

Ninjinister 05-02-2009 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa (Post 689062)
at least deadpool looks awesome in the wolverine vs hullk movie

Oh, he totally is! Nolan North FTW.

Raven 05-02-2009 12:15 PM

I saw the movie last night, and Im probably one of the few who isnt going to bitch about deadpool. I kind of like what they did with him, but he ended up being a plot bitch in more ways then one.

It was a fun movie, with some heart to it. Not much mind you, but the tension between Logan and Victor defiently was fun to watch through the film. Some of there fights were the best of the whole film, compared to the anticlimatic end fight scene. Which really felt cheap.

The Blob scene was funny as hell, probably my favorite scene of the film. I guess this movie gets a 3/5 from me. Kept me interested all the way through, but some glaring mistakes really kept me from really getting into it like I would have like to.

Raph's Girl 05-02-2009 05:30 PM

Ok in the comics the team featured somewhat in the movie was Team X...only instead of Blob there was a fellow named Mastadon and instead of Silver Fox being on the team she was replaced by Wade Wilson and Chris Bradley.

Comix Team X: Logan, Sabertooh, Mastadon, Maverick, Kestrel, and SilverFox

Movie: Logan, Sabertooth, Agent Zero (aka Maverick)*Note: In the comics he's German*, Kestrel/John Raith (the teleporter), Wade Wilson, Blob, Chris Bradley (aka Bolt aka Maverick II)

Spoiler:
Logan and Sabertooth being brothers has been hinted at since the Wolverine Origin comic.


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