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sdp 07-09-2009 10:34 PM

TMNT (1987 cartoon) Talkback "Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X"
 
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Episode #5 Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X
Original Ar Date: December 31, 1987

Shredder opens the portal to Dimension X for the first time. Three teenage kids known as Neutrinos and two of Krang's stone warriors emerge. The turtles befriend the teens, but before long the two stone warriors set up a special weather making device that causes trouble.

Episode Synopsis and other info

Discuss!

Cipher 07-10-2009 12:35 AM

I like the fact that this was actually the fourth episode of the series. I thought that was really cool.

On a lesser note, it is possibly the single best animatied episode of anything with the TMNT name on it. The scene where the Rock Soldiers' missile blasts through the pizza parlor is gorgeous.

themaxonline 07-10-2009 05:07 PM

Good scenes and touching moments, such as when the turtles and neutrinos discuss Krang's history and Dimension X, which is one of my favourite parts of this episode but I think as far as the first 5 go, this is my least favourite. Still ranks high on my list tho!

strawberryfields 07-11-2009 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by themaxonline (Post 705371)
Good scenes and touching moments

Touching moments?

lul.


Man the car they drove was awesome, I wish it would've gotten an official release as a toy.

Kendamu 07-11-2009 02:18 AM

I always found it kinda funny/interesting that when Leo cut the tank treads his sword was suddenly like 10 feet long. Other than that, though, that was one of the few episodes where the side door was actually used for the seat and gun and I always found that part to be kinda cool.

XERO 07-11-2009 03:23 AM

'EAT HOT LEAD, TURKEYS!!!!'

'Nuff said.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 07-11-2009 06:43 AM

English
 
But where did the neutrinos learn English, and how teenage life was on Earth in the 1950's and 1960's? Radio and television?

DonatelloDomeHead31 07-12-2009 02:05 AM

The Funniest Scene (in my opinion) is when Donatello is hanging onto the Neutrino's car and gets his shell scrapped against the building. Later, Michaelangelo adds some turtle wax to it :lol:

The other funny scene was one that i mentioned in a thread on here. It's Leonardo playing an Arcade game while the Turtles hide out. Very rare, but funny Leonardo.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 07-12-2009 04:19 AM

Michelangelo
 
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Originally Posted by donatello22 (Post 705771)
The other funny scene was one that i mentioned in a thread on here. It's Leonardo playing an Arcade game while the Turtles hide out. Very rare, but funny Leonardo.

You mean Michelangelo should play it?

DonatelloDomeHead31 07-12-2009 11:40 PM

No, i'm just commenting on Leonardo's rare funny side in some of the episodes and this particular episode. In the original toon screencaps thread, Tone posted some images of Leonardo at his humorous self.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 07-13-2009 08:52 AM

April Gets in Dutch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by donatello22 (Post 705968)
No, i'm just commenting on Leonardo's rare funny side in some of the episodes and this particular episode. In the original toon screencaps thread, Tone posted some images of Leonardo at his humorous self.

Isn't it in "April Gets in Dutch" Raphael says to Leonardo he said something fun.

Prowler 07-13-2009 04:26 PM

Great episode, but it's probably my least favourite from season one, I never liked the Neutrinos.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 07-14-2009 07:50 AM

Later episodes
 
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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 706078)
Great episode, but it's probably my least favourite from season one, I never liked the Neutrinos.

They appeared in some later episodes too, but not many.

Prowler 07-14-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 706239)
They appeared in some later episodes too, but not many.

Their most memorable is probably the second one, where Michelangelo and Kala had a crush on each other, which I've always found it to be a bit disturbing.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 07-15-2009 12:32 PM

Season two
 
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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 706326)
Their most memorable is probably the second one, where Michelangelo and Kala had a crush on each other, which I've always found it to be a bit disturbing.

Yes, and their comeback to Earth in season two.

Sage Ninja 07-15-2009 01:46 PM

The whole time I was watching the episode that they featured the neutrinos I kept getting the impression that the writers intended some thing more with them than what was featured in the episode. Like I thought that the neutrinos was supposed to give a little more insight on Krang and what his tyranny was like, but they didn't really

maybe the writters had more to do with them and got denied at the last second. the whole neutrino episode seemed rather rushed to me.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 07-16-2009 10:24 AM

Original TMNT idea?
 
Are the neutrinos an original TMNT idea, or parody from another science fiction story?

Prowler 07-16-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 706547)
Yes, and their comeback to Earth in season two.

That's the episode I was talking about.

themaxonline 07-16-2009 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja (Post 706557)
The whole time I was watching the episode that they featured the neutrinos I kept getting the impression that the writers intended some thing more with them than what was featured in the episode. Like I thought that the neutrinos was supposed to give a little more insight on Krang and what his tyranny was like, but they didn't really

Yeah, it seems weird that such unimportant characters would be introduced within the first five episodes unless they were supposed to play a greater role later on that didn't quite work out.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 07-17-2009 06:07 AM

It Came from Beneath the Sewers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch (Post 705495)
I always found it kinda funny/interesting that when Leo cut the tank treads his sword was suddenly like 10 feet long. Other than that, though, that was one of the few episodes where the side door was actually used for the seat and gun and I always found that part to be kinda cool.

Another is "It Came from Beneath the Sewers" where Raphael fires upon the plant.

Prowler 07-17-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 705519)
But where did the neutrinos learn English

The first thing aliens learn when they arrive on Earth is to speak English, you should know this already. :P

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 07-18-2009 07:21 AM

Every show
 
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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 707203)
The first thing aliens learn when they arrive on Earth is to speak English, you should know this already. :P

Yes, and it exists in almost every show.

Coola Yagami 07-18-2009 09:01 AM

Too bad the show was for kids. Mikey never got to so much as kiss Kala. In the later CBS episodes they hardly acknowledged each other at all.

The Big Bad 09-19-2011 06:55 AM

"Turtle Tracks" aside, this without a doubt my favorite episode of season 1. While the Neutrinos were never my favorite characters, the episode's uniformly sweet animation--the best in the series, even if "Turtle Tracks" has the better character models--helps it stand out. I also like the fact that the Rock Soldiers and Bebop and Rocksteady can't hit each other despite standing still at point-blank range, an achievement I don't think even Imperial Stormtroopers would achieve.

oldmanwinters 09-19-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Big Bad (Post 876905)
I also like the fact that the Rock Soldiers and Bebop and Rocksteady can't hit each other despite standing still at point-blank range, an achievement I don't think even Imperial Stormtroopers would achieve.

It must be that their blasters weren't made for their large hands!

And, yes, this episode looked fantastic! I especially like the part where the turtles fly up to destroy the weather globe.

rufus 09-19-2011 10:37 AM

And, yes, this episode looked fantastic! I especially like the part where the turtles fly up to destroy the weather globe.[/QUOTE]

One of my favorite moments in the 5 part miniseries. Always loved the animation effects in that scene.

Stingray69 09-19-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by strawberryfields (Post 705492)
Man the car they drove was awesome, I wish it would've gotten an official release as a toy.

Are you sure they dint I could of swore they did.

Cryomancer 09-19-2011 03:36 PM

Agreed on the earlier posts about the Neutrinos seeming more important that they really end up being. I think they probably should have just used the car instead of the portal devices that blow out, and just give it rare fuel or whatever to keep it from being used constantly.

Interesting, the anime/manga kind of fleshes out the concept of the Neutrinos. The mutastones and Crys-mu are legendary Neutrino deals found in ancient Neutrino temples etc. Krang is seeking them out specifically, it seems to be his motivation to attack them. They even bothered to draw the rulers as they appeared in that baby episode.

oldmanwinters 09-19-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomancer (Post 876968)
Interesting, the anime/manga kind of fleshes out the concept of the Neutrinos. The mutastones and Crys-mu are legendary Neutrino deals found in ancient Neutrino temples etc. Krang is seeking them out specifically, it seems to be his motivation to attack them. They even bothered to draw the rulers as they appeared in that baby episode.

Hey, I like it, a convincing explanation for the MutaStones that not only fits with Fred Wolf continuity but actually illuminates the motivations of Krang and the Neutrinos!

Jester 09-19-2011 04:07 PM

Good stuff: Tragg and Granitor
Bad stuff: Kala, Dask, and Zak. Oh and also the Weather Maker Satellite...so totally seemed like a last minute addition.

Jephael 09-19-2011 05:24 PM

I love watching this episode whenever I'm feeling nostalgic!

oldmanwinters 09-19-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cryomancer (Post 876968)
Interesting, the anime/manga kind of fleshes out the concept of the Neutrinos. The mutastones and Crys-mu are legendary Neutrino deals found in ancient Neutrino temples etc. Krang is seeking them out specifically, it seems to be his motivation to attack them. They even bothered to draw the rulers as they appeared in that baby episode.

I was just thinking... I wonder what the exact relationship the sacred Mutastones have to the retro-mutagen ooze. In Super Turtles #1, Krang says the mutastones are "mutagen in its purest, most concentrated form." Would it stand to reason that retro-mutagen ooze is a man-made concoction based on the properties of the mutastone, but obviously less pure and less concentrated?

The story possibilities for tying the Mutastones and mutagen were really interesting. If I was responsible for revamping the Old Toon universe, I'd definitely play on that undeveloped aspects. At least the Japanese deserve credit for digging deeper into the real secret of the ooze.

Cryomancer 09-20-2011 01:53 AM

Honestly as we work on Super Turtles I'm really surprised at the detail sometimes because of the stuff like this. They must have watched quite a few episodes, or at least enough "major" ones to understand Dimension X and whatnot pretty well. I always bring up the Neutrino leaders because it really surprised me, as it means they watched at least somewhat up into season 4 before writing the issue, or at least were like "we need these people's leaders was that ever in an episode?" and looked it up. I wonder if they had a contact within the FW staff or had to just burn through them all themselves?

ssjup81 09-20-2011 08:22 AM

I never thought much about the Neutrinos when I was a kid, and I guess it's due to the fact that I never remembered them being around much and remember them mostly because of their debut ep, but I had to have seen more because I remembered the whole Mikey/Kala thing. Go fig. I guess it's like how I am with Casey Jones for the OT series. I thought he was around a lot more than what I remembered.

As for this episode, I can't recall what I thought when seeing it as a kid, but watching it older, it sucks that we never got more backstory with them so that we could learn more about Krang in general and I also used to wonder as a kid why the Neutrinos just didn't stay with the Turtles since it's obviously more fun than living in Dimension X being hunted down by Rock Soldiers.

To me, the OT series failed in about three ways for me (looking back). Jokingly, not enough Casey Jones because he was just awesome to me as a kid and I still love the eps that featured him now.

Seriously, not enough on Shredder, Splinter, and Krang.

Why was Oroku Saki so obsessed with Hamato Yoshi to the point of following him to NY? He already got the guy banished from the country of Japan for trying to "kill" their "honorable sensei". (Am I the only one who laughed with the way that guy said "honorable sensei"? :tlol: ) Saki wanting to go after Yoshi made sense in the comics (avenging the death of his older brother at the hands of Yoshi). For the OT series, it never did to me.

How did Shredder even meet Krang and start up their partnership? Why was this never explained in the series?

What was Krang like/doing before he even met Shredder and how was he banished from Dimension X? What actions of his led to his being banished? Did Shredder meet him because of his being banished?

Anywho, the OT series could've gotten into some of those things and could've even done so through the Neutrinos, Shreeka, etc.

Jephael 09-20-2011 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 877120)
Why was Oroku Saki so obsessed with Hamato Yoshi to the point of following him to NY? He already got the guy banished from the country of Japan for trying to "kill" their "honorable sensei". (Am I the only one who laughed with the way that guy said "honorable sensei"? :tlol: )

It's possible Saki was worried Yoshi could find a way to prove that he framed him, hence why he kept an eye on him.

ssjup81 09-20-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 877219)
It's possible Saki was worried Yoshi could find a way to prove that he framed him, hence why he kept an eye on him.

Okay, I'll go along with that. It's a plausible explanation, even though I honestly couldn't see how Yoshi could even prove his innocence with that one.

Xav 09-20-2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by themaxonline (Post 707134)
Yeah, it seems weird that such unimportant characters would be introduced within the first five episodes unless they were supposed to play a greater role later on that didn't quite work out.

Didn't they appear in a bunch more episodes?

CyberCubed 09-20-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 877263)
Didn't they appear in a bunch more episodes?

The Neutrinos return quite a bit throughout the show. Their final appearance is in Season 7, where Krang turns them against the turtles.

MikeandRaph87 01-03-2012 02:39 PM

Of the five episodes I really enjoyed "Hot Rodding Teenagers From Dimension X", "The Dimension X Story", and "Attack of The Neutrinos". The other two were so-so. It was more so the plots that surrounded them than the trio themselves. I was reading a lot of dislike of the trio of Neutrinos so I thought I would bump up the thread and see how this episode and they are recieved. I don't love them like I do other characters but I enjoy them if the plot that surrounds them is good.

Do you think David Wise has something in mind as to how Shredder and Krang first met and began thier partnership? I have always wondered that. It would be nice if he had a contact on the web somewhere to ask just that.

cammy85 01-03-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeandraph87 (Post 898485)
Of the five episodes I really enjoyed "Hot Rodding Teenagers From Dimension X", "The Dimension X Story", and "Attack of The Neutrinos". The other two were so-so. It was more so the plots that surrounded them than the trio themselves. I was reading a lot of dislike of the trio of Neutrinos so I thought I would bump up the thread and see how this episode and they are recieved. I don't love them like I do other characters but I enjoy them if the plot that surrounds them is good.

Do you think David Wise has something in mind as to how Shredder and Krang first met and began thier partnership? I have always wondered that. It would be nice if he had a contact on the web somewhere to ask just that.

I agree too. I never liked "The Grybyx" at all, and it was the only episode in the third season to feature the Neutrinos. "Hot Rodding" was the best. :)

I wonder how they partnered up too, or why, when Krang was banished to Earth, that they sent him in his heavily armed Technodrome as well? Not too bright! I guess Saki was spying on Yoshi in the sewers and was kidnapped by Krang. Saki begged for Krang's help and Krang gave him his armor, technologically enhanced Foot Soldiers and "experimental mutagen".

I also wonder why they never bothered to bring the Technodrome to the surface at all. Maybe Krang was waiting until he finally had a new body before doing so, then the Turtles interfered.


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