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Raph's Girl 09-01-2009 01:57 PM

Fantastic Four reboot
 
http://weblogs.variety.com/bfdealmem...stic-four.html

Some have questioned whether Disney overpaid when it bought Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion. After all, its best known Marvel Comics superhero franchises are parked at other studios, and Universal's Islands of Adventure is as dominated by Marvel attractions as it is Dr. Seuss.

But one thing to remember about Marvel assets is, they don't seem to wear out. We're about to see the second example where successful Marvel movie franchises are going to be reinvented.

20th Century Fox is the latest studio to start the process of overhauling one of its big Marvel Entertainment franchises, “Fantastic Four,” which has already hatched two films. The studio has hired Akiva Goldsman to oversee the re-boot as producer.

New script will be written by Michael Green, the “Heroes” co-executive producer who co-wrote “Green Lantern,” the Martin Campbell-directed Warner Bros. film that will star Ryan Reynolds.

Fox would not comment on its plans, and neither would Columbia Pictures when BFD revealed a couple weeks its plan to potentially re-boot the studio's most valuable franchise, "Spider-Man."

With “Spider-Man 4” moving toward an early 2010 production start, the studio recently hired James Vanderbilt to write a fifth and sixth installment of the web-slinger franchise, with the understanding that one or both could give that franchise a makeover with a new director and cast (Daily Variety, Aug. 16, 2009). Whether director Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire return or not, Sony smartly has given itself the chance to shorten the gap between its superhero installments.

And with state-of-the-art visual effects on superhero franchises pushing these pictures toward the $250 million-$300 million range, reshuffling the creative cast gives the studio a chance to save money, since actors and directors usually have a pre-negotiated option or two before the studio is held over a barrell by talent and their reps.

Marvel Studios has eliminated that problem by making talent sign as many as nine options, which was the case with the supporting cast of "Iron Man 2."

The 2005 “Fantastic Four” and 2007 sequel “Rise of the Silver Surfer” were directed by Tim Story, and starred Ioan Gruffud, Jessica Alba, Chris Evans and Michael Chiklis. Since the deals are just getting made, it is unclear at present if any of them will return.

Though Marvel Entertainment owns and finances properties like “Iron Man” and “Thor,” Fox controls “Fantastic Four” in perpetuity—as long as it continues making the films. Fox has the same arrangement on Marvel Comics properties “X-Men,” “Daredevil,” and “Silver Surfer” --which, despite an appearance in the "Fantastic Four" sequel, is still a Fox priority for a solo film.

Marvel is a producer and financial participant through a licensing agreement signed before Marvel franchises had the drawing power they have now. In fact, the original deal was made back when Marvel was struggling to pull itself out of bankruptcy in 1997.

Fox has been extraordarily effective in mining its Marvel franchises. The studio made three “X-Men” films, and then a hit summer spinoff in “Wolverine.” Fox is working on a sequel to that film, and has scripts for “X-Men Origins: Magneto," and “X-Men Origins: First Class," the latter of which could bring original "X-Men" helmer Bryan Singer back to the fold. Potential spinoffs for the Gambit and Deadpool characters seen in "Wolverine" have also been discussed.

As producer, Goldsman is involved with several DC Comics transfers, including “Jonah Hex,” “The Losers” and “Teen Titans.” He was also producer on the Will Smith-Charlize Theron-superhero film “Hancock,” a film that has a sequel in development.

The Stryker 09-01-2009 02:45 PM

I liked the first 2 F4 movies.

The franchise they NEED to reboot is X-men.

ZariusTwo 09-01-2009 03:12 PM

Reboot Spider-Man. Raimi never got it f*cking right.

Hordak 09-01-2009 08:08 PM

I was a little iffy on the first FF4 movies. Thing was cool, Torch was ok but Doom could have een better. The costume was nice & he was better in the 2nd than the 1st. I thought the Silver Surfer was bas ass but what they done with Galactus was an abomination!

Brodie 09-01-2009 09:15 PM

I agree with Zarius. Spider-Man 2 was close. But was pretty meh.

The Stryker 09-02-2009 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hordak (Post 718355)
I was a little iffy on the first FF4 movies. Thing was cool, Torch was ok but Doom could have een better. The costume was nice & he was better in the 2nd than the 1st. I thought the Silver Surfer was bas ass but what they done with Galactus was an abomination!

He ate planets. What exactly did they ruin?

Please don't say you wanted a giant purple monster to show up.

R-iZZy 09-02-2009 02:42 PM

Well, it could've been better than a stupid f***ing cloud. Lost already had that covered anyway.

Hopefully, things will turn out for the better with this reboot. I always thought the Fantastic Four movies were a little too slapstick for my liking. They weren't cover-your-eyes terrible, but they weren't really that good either. Dr. Doom wasn't properly presented as the threat he should be.

The Stryker 09-02-2009 02:44 PM

No. A giant purple monster is not better than a cloud.

R-iZZy 09-02-2009 02:47 PM

Well, considering a giant, purple monster would better represent Galactus than a cloud; yes, it is better.

And I don't get why you'd pull a giant, purple monster out the hat to begin with, seeing as that's not what Galactus even appears as.

The Stryker 09-02-2009 02:55 PM

http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/pho...5/galactus.jpg

Looks purple to me.

R-iZZy 09-02-2009 03:20 PM

Well, he does look giant and purple. Appears as more of a humanoid though, no?

The Stryker 09-02-2009 03:24 PM

He eats planets. That's pretty monstrous.

XERO 09-02-2009 03:46 PM

I like the fact that Antartica is closest to the grill. That explains the global warming. :lol:

Hordak 09-02-2009 11:27 PM

Yes that is the Galactus I wanted to see! Thats the way he has always been! All we got was the shadow of his helmet & a dumb*** cloud! That sucked!

odupianist 09-03-2009 07:38 AM

Agreed, stupid cloud = epic fail.

The Stryker 09-03-2009 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hordak (Post 718636)
Yes that is the Galactus I wanted to see! Thats the way he has always been! All we got was the shadow of his helmet & a dumb*** cloud! That sucked!

You wanted a giant purple alien monster thing to just show up at the end of the movie. You know how STUPID that would've been?

The cloud was stupid, for sure, but no where near as stupid as a giant purple thing that rides a space scooter would've been.

Some things have to be changed for movies because not everything that's on a page works in motion.

Brodie 09-03-2009 02:04 PM

Bipedal Galactus showing up would have been as ridiculous as a giant tentacle alien showing up at the end of the Watchmen movie...

Hordak 09-04-2009 02:29 AM

Every time Galcatus has ever been shown thats the way he has looked. I think he looks bad***! Ooh a storm cloud scary! Man was my Uncle p'oed cause he is a big comic guy & loves Galactus! It was just a huge let down for comic buffs. I can understand a little redesign but they even teased us with the shadow of his helmet! And why would it have been dumb? All the other characters looked like they looked in the comcis? So FF comic fans would want to see comic Galactus.

The Stryker 09-04-2009 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hordak (Post 718819)
Every time Galcatus has ever been shown thats the way he has looked. I think he looks bad***! Ooh a storm cloud scary! Man was my Uncle p'oed cause he is a big comic guy & loves Galactus! It was just a huge let down for comic buffs. I can understand a little redesign but they even teased us with the shadow of his helmet! And why would it have been dumb? All the other characters looked like they looked in the comcis? So FF comic fans would want to see comic Galactus.

Yeah but the rest of the world would be laughing at the GIANT PURPLE GUY IN A RE-RE HELMET. Galactus is one of the stupidest looking villains of all time.

Blade wore green in the comics, they should've kept that too, right?

Hordak 09-04-2009 07:54 AM

The way Blade looked in the movies was the way he had looked in the comics & toons for some time, black & leather. Seriously though to a least see Galactus more than the shadow of his helmet would have been better. Hell anything would have been better than a cloud!

The Stryker 09-04-2009 07:58 AM

Atleast an evil cloud is sort of scary. How do you fight a cloud?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4OYGjUrdll...1e707314af.jpg
That stupid looking thing isn't intimidating at all.

Again, just because it works in the comics doesn't mean it'll work in a damn movie.

Hell, Galactus BARELY works in the comics nowadays.

Hordak 09-04-2009 08:00 AM

Yea like Wolverine's mask. And really I don't think he was the cloud maybe he was in it (or above it?) cause how would we see the shadow of his helmet? They could have just re-designed him for the movie like they did Deadpool! Lol! Now that was a joke! And for what its worth I like Galactus' design. Guess I;m a little old school. Must get it from my uncle!

ZariusTwo 09-04-2009 08:57 AM

They shopuld have went with the Gah-Lak-Tus fleet from the Ultimate Universe, at least then it'd have been more like Star Wars and not The FF going up against a wry case of wind.

Dan 09-07-2009 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 718274)
Reboot Spider-Man. Raimi never got it f*cking right.

What didn't he get right?

The Stryker 09-07-2009 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 719201)
What didn't he get right?

A lot of things.

First, Kirsten Dunst. Second, Tobey Macguire.

Peanut 09-07-2009 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 719201)
What didn't he get right?

Just about everything?

My biggest problem is still the fat Aunt May. Aunt May ain't fat, she's brittle as sh*t!

Dan 09-07-2009 02:39 PM

What the heck are you talking about? Aunt May wasn't fat.

ZariusTwo 09-07-2009 03:07 PM

Nothing about those movies is accurate, it's not played "straight" enough, it's played largely for laughs, it insults the intelligence of both the characters and the audience.

Dan 09-07-2009 04:12 PM

I wouldn't go as far too say nothing.

The Stryker 09-07-2009 05:06 PM

I guess the spider man costume itself was accurate.

Peanut 09-07-2009 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 719248)
What the heck are you talking about? Aunt May wasn't fat.

Yes, she was. Go watch it again. FATTY!

愛 09-07-2009 05:16 PM

Whenever I see the word "reboot" in the title, I get so excited because I think it's a thread about Reboot. :cry:

GK Punk 09-07-2009 05:44 PM

I loved the first two Spidey movies :( </3

Brodie 09-07-2009 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ai (Post 719276)
Whenever I see the word "reboot" in the title, I get so excited because I think it's a thread about Reboot. :cry:

A fantastic Four movie with Bob and Enzo would be awesome...and replace Silver Surfer with The Surfer....

Hordak 09-07-2009 11:32 PM

Man Reboot was cool! I forgot about that show! And the Spidey movies weren't bad until they messed with Eddie Brock & that damn power ranger goblin in 3!

The Stryker 09-08-2009 12:13 AM

He was a power ranger goblin in the first movie.

I really hated how Doc Ock and Goblin were pretty much the same character.

ToTheNines 09-08-2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 719371)
I really hated how Doc Ock and Goblin were pretty much the same character.

They tried to hard to make every villain "tragic".

XERO 09-08-2009 05:51 PM

Does the Sandman count?

Jester 09-08-2009 06:11 PM

Gah, Marco was a joke. I liked the first 2 Spidey movies, like my evil(er) twin said, but I was embarrassed when my fiancee and I saw it. Seriously, I rolled my eyes sooooo much

Newton Gimmick 09-08-2009 06:54 PM

Spider-Man 2 was horrible. Just unwatchable horrible. The first one was pretty awesome though. The third wasn't as bad as the second, but it wasn't great either.

I liked the FF movies alright, except the casting choices and all the changes to Doom. I never cared for the 5th Beatle storyline.


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