OT talkback thread- Leatherhead meets the Rat King
 

A great episode. Funny how all this was going on the same day the Turtles were out and about playing 'capture the flag' in the junkyard. The ep could have worked without the turtles, since April and Leatherhead would have stopped Rat King's plans. Of course, April would have been either a prisoner of the Rat King or news reporter gumbo.

Um....wrong forum?

Dammit.... I didn't notice.... Can someone move them please?

Continuity-wise, this was a pretty important episode for getting Leatherhead out of the Florida swamps and into the New York sewers where he belongs.

Good episode i like the rat king has to be my favorite villian behind shredder.I like the interaction between leatherhead and rat king too would of been a powerful team if they went in that direction in this episode.

I just saw this episode on CBS today. I thought it was great the way they had a super-villain team-up. Hope it opens the door for similar episodes in the future. I also thought the beginning with the trash drump was a bit of well written humor.

All in all, one of the best episodes last season.

Strange....

When did CBS get the rights to air the syndicated episodes? Isn't Fox still showing them on weekday mornings? Or have they all been shipped off to an obscure time slot on USA?

The Turtle Tips segment was the best part of the ep, IMO.

One of my all time favorite episodes! Leatherhead is my favorite TMNT character & thought it was cool to see him go up against the Rat King! I know they teamed-up in later episodes but in this one Leatherhead should have gator handled Rat King more. After all Leatherhead is a beast of a gator & King just a man in shape wearing bandages/rags? Just wish Leatherhead's toy looked this cool!
Cipher, you must be stuck in a time warp bro! How do I get caught cause I miss the old days!

Good episode
 

Good episode

Growing up with the OT, I ALWAYS liked Leatherhead. As he was to me, such a entertaining adversary the turtles would have to deal with. Rat King was great as well, and this episode where they actually met was just pure gold.

CBS is airing the original turtles? :O

Only if you are Cipher Classic, "banished to a time-warp, from which you will never return."

Work together
 

In some episodes, Leatherhead and the Rat King work together. Rat King also works with Shredder or the TMNT in some episodes, in othes they fight each other so Rat King often changes side.

April I think breaks a record here, being catch by 2 villians,

Its funny she escapes from Leatherhead only to get tied up by Ratking.

No TMNT
 

A TMNT episode without the TMNT? Would be more like an April O' Neil spin-off.

I would not mind a April O'Neil spin off, just one problem, she has the Princess Peach problem, she cant cross the road with out being kidnapped.

Who will save her if she wants to take out food or something? Stop by the bank or anything.

it's the other way around buddy. :twink:

I wouldn't mind it either, I think she actually has the presense to hold her own spin-off. Say a ten or fifteen minute segment of her own. Didn't she get her own spin-off series in the archie comics?

Who the hell is Princess peach?

Ugh, NO!

Normally, I think April is a cool character... and while OT April certainly serves a purpose, I can't stand her. She's so one dimensional and stereotypical.

Princess Peach was an official name given to Princess Toadstool in the Mario games after awhile.

I loved this episode! I didn't like that the Turtles were preoccupied for most of this episode but it worked out in the end, albeit rushed. I don't understand how Leatherhead and the Rat King can be enemies here but good friends in "Splinter Vanishes" but that's another topic.

Kidnapped
 

She's not kidnapped in every episode. In the "Mean Machines" Aprils saves the day and the Earth by removing the cable.

Yeah, April had more common sense and resourcefulness than most people give her credit for.

In "Invasion of the Turtle Snatchers" she saves the world by removing the batteries of an alien doomsday machine that was really a kid's toy. She also knew how to pilot and repair a helicopter, drive a forklift, pick locks, and could really drive the newsbike and vans like a professional racer. She used a lot of bad judgment trying to get a story but compared to Vernon and other Channel Six employees she was highly competent and hardly ever hesitated to try to help the turtles when they were in trouble.

I always felt removing the cable from the outlet and taking out the batteries were cop-out endings to those respective episodes. But I guess that's what happens when you're limited to 21 minutes.

The other examples were fun tho!

Oh, yeah, definitely, but I guess that's just the attempt at humor. I always thought the Turtle Snatchers was pretty clever since "every toy has batteries" after all.

Still, the biggest cop-out ending of the series had to have been the conclusion to "Michaelangelo's Birthday" in which Splinter de-inflates Raph, Don, and Leo by using his mystic mothballs and reminding us all that "if you believe in something strong enough, if might just happen." Doh!

How bout the second episode in which 3 of the Turtles turned into kids? I mean first of all, they were hit by some ray that Don made to turn spoiled stuff back into good food again. Yeah, zapped by a ray. By most cartoon logic getting zapped by another ray, or the same ray with the whole 'reverse the polarity' technobabble they always use, should work.

No, they wait for almost the last 3 minutes of the episode to have the turtle tots jump in the ocean and conveniently discover that water undoes the effects. WTF???

Wasn't it the salt IN the water? Or the fact that the water was salty?

I remember in this episode when Vernon was getting the whole fight between the turtles and the LH/Ratking on camera, and forgotfully left the cap on the lens the whole time; Raphael, states at the end, "Looks like you forgot to take the lens cap off Mr. Star Reporter."

I forgot about that, and it's one of my favorite episodes. :) I don't know much about video cameras but since the lens cap was on, how did Vernon see anything?

Anything can happen with Vernon on the job.

Irma
 

And don't forget the "Super Irma" episode, Irma's own show. :)

Irma's had a few episodes. lol. 50-foot-Irma. Super Irma. The one where the robot turned into Irma.

Yeah, Irma was a pretty faithful friend when she wasn't trying to score a weekend date. She really put herself on the line to save April when she got kidnapped by the Rat King or mutated into a catwoman.

Duck Tales
 

And Duck Tales had an episode with almost the same theme, with that girl becoming a giant.

You mean Webby. :)

And who can forget "Shredder Triumphant" where she got ahold of Bebop or Rocksteady's blasters and turned into a She-Rambo!!

Yeah, that was pretty funny! Irma also took out Mad Dog McMutt with a dinosaur bone in "Raphael: Turtle of a Thousand Faces"

Irma
 

Even Irma got ahold of one gun if i'm correct.

That's what I said. :) I think I worded it wrong. Irma got the gun, not Webby.

Confuse episode
 

I think you confuse episode. In "Attack of the 50 Foot Irma", Irma become a giant just like Webby in a Duck Tales episode. In "Get Shredder", April and Irma get ahold of Bebop and Rocksteady's guns.

I LOVE that episode!:lol:



I think Donatello says, the cure is plan salt water, their natural environment... But the Ninja turtles weren't sea turtles were they???:tconfuse:

Ohhhh... :) It was actually "Shredder Triumphant" when they got ahold of Bebop and Rocksteady's weapons.