Super shredder
 

I watched SOTO today, and the logic behind Super Shredder had me thinking. I get how the mutagen changed Shredder's dna and made him more muscular, but what I don't get is ;

- How his increase in size didn't rip his outfit ( like the Hulk)

- Since the mutagen works on a biological level , then how did it alter Shredder's mask and shoulder armor ?

cause it's stretchy

The plot said so

logic don't comply with a movie featuring vanilla ice

Not to mention he was RIGHT NEXT TO THE TURTLES. He should've mutated into a turtle. Vanilla shell to be exact.

Dude, they just wanted Shredder to get more powerful in the movie.

Best not to think of these things, its not like the second movie had this serious plot or anything.

Seems like the rules of the mutagen in the movies operated more like the comics than the cartoon show. The ooze doesn't turn the subject into the being in closest proximity but simply increases their size and intellect (except in Shredder's case, doh!).

Have you considered that it's a really, really, really awful movie?

So, would he show up in another movie?? That would be sweet.

Actually, that's Dr. Perry's doing. In one scene (in the subway I believe) the doctor explains that he tampered with the Shredder's ooze so that any mutants he would create would experience no increase in intellect, thus making them a bit less dangerous.

That's right!!! I keep thinking that Shredder drank a whole cannister of TGRI ooze, but in actuality he drank the vial he was going to pour all over that girl. Perry confiscated the cannister with ooze that hadn't been tampered with.

It ISN'T a sucky movie!!!

There should be rules here about movie bashing the way there are rules about not bashing the old 'toon.

No need to bash any TMNT movie or tv show..

Thats what Streetfighter was made for :P

This is me stretching it a bit, but what if Shredder's henchmen got the rest of the donuts with the capsules in them (after seeing what happened to Tokka and Rahzar) and got them to Shredder after they rescued him from the docks? Therefore, he can show up in another movie as his normal self. Too ridiculous?

I always thought that on top of the dock crushing him he also most likely had a heart attack.

Clothes
 

Because we don't want him running around naked in town. But he survives falling through a window, but as Super Shredder he probably dies when the wooden structure falls on him in the seaport.

According to Internet Movie Database, the actor under the Super Shredder costume is Kevin Nash, TNA wrestler. I was shocked when I saw that, I thought it was a joke.

If he died at all
 

If he died at all...

Nope, it's not a joke. That's actually a pretty well known fact that he is. He's even talked about it in interviews back in his WCW days.

The wonders of Spandex.

I just watched II the other day, after not seeing it since I was a kid, and I gotta say II is my favorite.


Perhaps it works on an atomic level, so thats why his helmet and spikes got bigger.

plus its just a movie. :) and it would have looked so lame for Super Shredder to be huge but have the same small helmet and armor. :lol:

1987 cartoon
 

The 1987 cartoon had also several cases where the mutagen seemed to affect the clothes.

The 1987 cartoon's mutagen was also more magical than scientific. There can be no other explanation for Michelangelo magically gaining and losing clothes and ninja gear while "mutating" back and forth between a humanoid-turtle and a full-blown human being.

I don't think the movie mutagen works the same way as the OT's mutagen. Proff. Perry said that the ooze was just a bunch of random chemicals that got exposed to high doses of radiation, giving it mutagenic properties ( basically just plan old, radioactive waste). The Utroms in the original comics said it was just a waste by-product of their technology. Only in the OT, was the mutagen designed to create mutation.

Splinter
 

It was still scientific. Originally it caused the affected person or animal to grow. It was changed for the 1987 cartoon so Splinter could start as Hamato Yoshi instead of his pet rat.

I don't think it was designed to mutate. I remember Shredder trying to use it to kill Hamoto Yoshi in the sewers.