An Image TMNT Vol. 3 conclusion? Maybe.
 

First, a "rough pencils" look at what Frank Fosco's cover for an issue of an Image TMNT conclusion.

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/tmnt24.jpg

And now the cover with his final inks:

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/tmnt24cov.jpg

And the final colored version with Sabacooza's colors:

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/24cov-small.jpg

Details as they become available. Going through many channels.

If this happens, Gary Carlson would write it (possibly with my aid, possibly without), Frank Fosco would illustrate it, and Courtland Brugger would color it (the covers). A.C. Farley is doing a two-page coda and Kevin Eastman is inking what may be a wraparound cover for it or possibly just some kick-ass promotional art.

#24 reviews here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=33980

Can't help you with art (as in, you really, really don't want me to help), but I think it's awesome that this is moving forward and I look forward to what comes of everyone's efforts!!

Is this legal?

It isn't being published or distributed. It's essentially the same if I made a faux X-Men comic and printed it on my printer and hung it on my mantle.

If someone wants to see what we come up with? There's no charge. This isn't for profit. I'm doing this out of pocket.

This is cool. At least a script from Gary himself makes it really more authentic. But as a fan thing you won't/can't be selling it right? Or only charge for the costs of making it? I'd love to draw this but I too suck at backgrounds. Although if the backgrounds were a minimum or didn't need to look so good I might be able to draw it. But I've never even committed to drawing two comic books worth of pages. I always doodled alot in Junior & High school. My style on the turtles is roughly an Eastman & Laird style look. Maybe even early Jim Lawson. But I don't know about my time for this. Try to fit this in around work would be hard. If the timeframe was infinite and a thorough script in details, may be possible (I may need things explained to me). But I could be just too enthusiastic right now and babbling. Something I'll think about. You know what would cap this off if Frank Fosco could at least draw the covers at no fee. I'm assuming a fee could be why he's not involved or he's too busy. Which either way, is understandable.
Besides this, what happened to the TMNT fan art book from gogreenmachine.org? Its seems silent now after the TMNT/Nicko buyout. I wanted to put in art for this too.

I am going to send you drawings I made of the image turtles, tell me if theyre sufficient because Id love to do work on this project. I could do backgrounds too here & there. Either way this is a great concept & I hope all bodes well.

Not a script from him. Just help, overseeing, advice, ideas.

Right.

Legally can't even charge for that. Strictly the raw shipping. This is a labor of love.

I'm happy to pay him a nominal fee. I'm trying to track him down. If you know something I don't or want to play cyber sleuth, hey, let me know.

Send'em over!

people also need to understand the difference between what a right holder can do, and what they will do. I have been working with Disney lawyers long enough to tell you that a company will only take action when something is:

A) SEVERELY effecting the brand
B) Cutting into their profits (we are talking hundreds of thousands, not hundreds)
C) A product or method that they can take and make a profit with

In this case, the Image turtles is a sect of the TMNT that nick has no interest in (and probably no knowledge of). The product that Andrew would be producing is not for sale or trade, so he is not making any money, and not cutting into profit. Lastly, the content that Andrew dreamed up would legally be owned by him (not the characters, but the story, events, etc.) So while Nick could legally control the distribution of said product if they so chose, that could NOT take that product or the idea and sell it themselves without legal recourse from Andrew.

All this doesnt even take into consideration the INSANE amount of money and manpower it would cost them to take Andrew to court in the first place. So in the VERY VERY VERY worst case scenario, Nick would send Andrew a Cease and Desist order, at which point Andrew would simply stop manufacturing the book. No harm no foul.

99.99999% of the time the owner of an IP will not persue works of "fan fiction", which this would technically be considered, because not only is it costly, but it is also counterproductive as it serves only to tarnish their reputation in the eyes of the fanbase.

You really think 100 copies will be sufficient though? There's more of us than that.

Hrmmmm....

TMNT seems to only sell around 3000 copies these days... and that's with it appearing in comic stores and such. Factoring in there's only about 900 active members on the board, of those only about 60 actually posting, factoring in that only a small fraction of those even have even ever read the Image series and lastly factoring in that only a percentage of those that have read it actually like it and would be interested in reading a proper conclusion of it... I think 100 copies seems reasonable.

Sounds interesting, I'd pick up a copy.

Maybe someone should do something similar with Murphy's ideas for the "Forever war" and get that done in a fan-made comic too.

I don't think my art would be very good on it's own, but I'm a pretty good inker, and quite a good proofreader/continuity checker. By this I don't mean something is a problem because of issue 8 having that character die, but rather scene to scene errors (Why is the sword now in his left hand instead or right) and such. So if you need any help there, let me know.

This is just a little something I just sketched up based off of image cover art. I think I could totally handle this project, sans coloring as it should only be done digitially IMO which is something I can't do. If you want a bigger version of the picture, let me know. http://i46.tinypic.com/9tkh1j.jpg

I kinda rushed it just get my foot in the thread so to speak... but give me the time I could whip up something really killer dude.

Wow, that's actually pretty good.

Something similar is actually being worked on, although it won't be a full-fledged comic. Can't say too much else about it just yet, though.

Definite potential here!

Oh wow... Powder your work looks very Image-y.

That's fantastic!

And there wouldn't be any color (aside from covers). Just black and white art... which I'll give the duotones the Image series lacked.

Hypothetically, we're talking about 2 issues, 32 pages each, a total of 64 pages of art for this project. Is that something you'd be willing to commit to? Because if the answer is "maybe" or such, I'd rather not have you start and then drop off at some leaving me to find replacements.

I have to ask.

Well my dedication is given provided whoever else is involved does the same... My biggest question is how I am to format it. To get that comic look, ( I really just mean the boxes/panels) what do I do? Freehand them? Also, I hope someone else would be lettering lol.

I would be digitally handling all word balloons, captions, dialogue all of that in CS4. Your only job in that regard would be to look at the script, go, "OK, there's X amount of dialogue in this panel, I probably need to allow X amount of space in this corner."

For the paneling, just freehand it. When I give things the digital treatment I will crop, line-in, and fill things accordingly (probably giving the backgrounds behind the panels on every page a black background). It will look professional. The scripts will more or less outline the paneling, but the storyboarding is ultimately up to the artist.

I'd love to help but I have nothing to offer besides graphic design work, layouts*IE filling in the bubbles and cropping pics*, and help with writing. You seem to have all that covered though. If you need me you know where I am.

Either way I'd love a copy! I support this 100%.

Hmm..the presence of the duotone worries me a little. one of the hallmarks of the image series was the lack of duotones. Done right it could help mark the transitional ending stylistically, done wrong it would be a break from the rest of the series. It is possible to do good black and white work without tones, just not as easy.

That sounds great man. What method of sending would work best for you man? Me scanning the pictures..? I'm not not to drawing but I'm now to the formatting etc etc etc. Anyways, send me the scripts when you can. You could PM me them or email them to me

I hear you, but if you see the many letters from me printed in Volume 3... (it's virtually every other issue) you'll know my thoughts on the matter. And I can tell you it was a thing enforced only by Erik Larsen... Gary, Frank, and company were all pro-tones.

At this point I only have detailed synopses, but will easily hammer out the two scripts within about a week. Are you willing to commit to the thing? I need a firm commitment to all 64 pages.

Hm. I'd heard that about Larsen. Either way, my point was that it's going to be something you're going to want to be very careful with.

Like I said, either way I'm happy to offer my services in any area I'd be of use, and either way I look forward to the results.

I'd be happy to run my scripts by you for additional feedback, if you'd like.

I'd like to be on that mailing list too. I enjoy bouncing ideas.

Always good to see fan projects like this. The thread has been stickied.

Not sure if this will affect the number of copies you're planning on producing, but according to the stats, the number of members who have posted in that timeframe is actually more than 10 times your estimate.

I have to agree with turkishproverb here. Even though you may prefer the duotones, Andrew, and even if they would look better than the flat look the Image books had (and that's highly probable), it is a significant style break. If this is to be seen as a true conclusion to Volume 3 (as true as a fan project can be), I think I would prefer that the look match the rest of the volume even at the sacrifice of a greater potential.

This is a GREAT idea.

Really hope I'll be able to get these :)

I would also love to bounce some ideas, but since I haven't read vol. 3 in a while and don't really have the time for reading it... I guess I wouldn't be of much help :P

I'd like to a get a copy as well. I wouldn't be able to help much as an artist, but anything else you might need Andrew, just let me know. I'd love to help with script review, but I don't want to bog it down with too many people. So just let me know.

This is pretty exciting. Are you sure two issues would be enough to wrap up all of Image's plots? The series was always fast-paced in its story arcs, so I hope you can pull it off.

I think so. The only big things dangling about with Image was, 1) Their conditions, 2) Lady Shredder, and 3) What happened to Pimiko. I think all three can be handled adequately in two issues.

And at 32 pages each for #24 and #25, this would actually be three issues of the Image series' size... as those comics were 20 pages (or was it 22?).

Sure. Happy to help in any way I can.

can't help much but would like copies of the issues when finshed

In contact with Frank Fosco now... hopefully should know something today and tomorrow. Covers from him would be nice... though maybe he'd have to be credited as "Frank Rosco" or something.

You have my commitment to the fullest. Secondly, I do kind of agree about the whole duo-tones thing.. It may very well be all too significant of a style break...

Hm. Though in a few spots (including #1) the Image series did have toning. And the Image series' prelude in Big Bang Comics #10 (also by Gary Carlson) was full-on duotones.

I hear what you guys are saying, though. My thing is, however, for example... if I were to have opened up, say, #15 of the Image series, and suddenly the comic had full duo-toning where #1-14 did not... I wouldn't stop and say, "You know, this removes me from the series because it's jarringly different than the lack of tones in the previous issues." No, I would say, "Hey, **** yeah, they finally added duotones! Sweet!"

In my heart I feel like I want to stick to my guns on the duotones, but I'll tell you what... when I start getting the finished art and I start prepping it, I'll post some "With Duotones" and "Without Duotones" shots here on the forum and we'll go from there.

Sounds fair. :)