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Dejablue 12-24-2009 07:02 PM

The Japanese Dub
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGHmuRyOh7M

Months ago I heard the Japanese intro to the 2k3 cartoon along with their own self made ....i forget what they're called.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6QKDvFj9vQ <---These things! Has anyone hear heard a full episode in Japanese? For some reason I want to hear it.

Raph's Girl 12-24-2009 07:11 PM

That's a weird preview for Lone Wolf and Cub... WTF has cheese got to do with anything?

Dejablue 12-24-2009 07:31 PM

Japan. Thats all you need to know. There is a stranger one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BiXyQfqzao

DrSpengler 12-24-2009 08:57 PM

I've watched a few of the Japanese-dubbed episodes. They were on You Tube for a while but have since been removed.

The dub is...okay. I didn't agree with a few of the portrayals, primarily Splinter's. He sounded very frail and too goofy; more of a silly old man than a wise old sensei.

And I couldn't stand Mike. One of his "gimmicks" was that whenever he was going crazy with his nunchukus, he'd make all sorts of high-pitched Bruce Lee-esque "whu-TAW! whu-TAW!" noises. It was obnoxious.


Anyhow, the show flopped over there. It was pretty heavily promoted and had a major marketing push, but still got canned after only 52 episodes. Japanese kids today just don't give a s*** about Ninja Turtles.

Dejablue 12-24-2009 10:06 PM

XD oh well. You'd think something like giant talking turtles using weapons of their homeland would sell like effing hotcakes to the Japanese. Wow that's actually kind of ironic.

Well they don't even care about Sonic the Hedgehog either. But Europe seems to love him. Go figure.

Leonardo Mystic 12-24-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dejablue (Post 742843)
Japan. Thats all you need to know. There is a stranger one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BiXyQfqzao

Oh, god. Don't tell me they went there. *bangs head on wall* Even the Japanese thought of LeoxKarai shipping?

Dejablue 12-24-2009 10:46 PM

Well I can't lie and say that there weren't undertones....

Well ok you sort of had to desperately wanting some turtle x _ _ _ romance to find it but still.

There was no turtle love at all in this series...well maybe April with Don but that's reading between the lines to find subtext that wasn't really there.



Or Was It...?

On a separate note I've been trying to find any topics dealing with OC's or fan characters. But the search gives no results. Is there a topic about fan characters and I just can't find it? If so could someone please direct me toward it.

Leonardo Mystic 12-24-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dejablue (Post 742867)
Well I can't lie and say that there weren't undertones....

Well ok you sort of had to desperately wanting some turtle x _ _ _ romance in this series to find it but still.

At times, those undertones weren't too subtle, but I can't stand Karai anyway. That's why it makes my skin crawl when she and Leonardo are paired together romantically in fanfiction.

DrSpengler 12-25-2009 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dejablue (Post 742862)
XD oh well. You'd think something like giant talking turtles using weapons of their homeland would sell like effing hotcakes to the Japanese. Wow that's actually kind of ironic.

Well they don't even care about Sonic the Hedgehog either. But Europe seems to love him. Go figure.

TakaraTomy thought the Turtles would be as big in Japan now as they were in the 80s, but unfortunately were wrong.

The original TMNT cartoon ran for 102 episodes on TV Tokyo (in addition to different dubs run on satellite networks and released on home video). To put that in perspective, foreign cartoons are generally forbidden from appearing on standard Japanese broadcasting networks like TV Tokyo. The reason is that they want to give those timeslots to Japanese-produced programs and don't want foreign media "stealing" opportunities from native talent (a sharp contrast to American networks, I know). Canada has similar rules about foreign shows being broadcast on their networks.

The Turtles, though, were just so crazy popular and had such a tremendous marketing push from Takara (who released the Playmates toys and merch in Japan) that they overcame the odds and stuck around for an almost unheard of length of time for a foreign cartoon.

TakaraTomy thought they could repeat the success with the new series and it just didn't happen. Some explanations I've heard is that they waited too long to release it over there. They missed the "ninja fad" by a few years. Right now, the only ninja Japanese kids care about is Naruto (incidentilly, TMNT got a timeslot on TV Tokyo right before Naruto). Everythign else is passe'.

Other explanations I've heard from Japanese fans is that the new TMNT cartoon wasn't enough like the 80s series and a lot of casual viewers were disappointed and quit the series early on.


Meh. Their loss. Ironically, if those Japanese fans that wanted the series to be like the 80s version had stuck around, they'd have gotten Turtles Forever. Oh well. Sucks to be them.

Gyt Kaliba 12-25-2009 12:30 PM

I've never seen any of the Japanese dub of the new show, but I love the opening themes they gave the show over there. I was surprised it didn't do well either. I mean, turtles using weapons to fight evil? Right off the bat...that's a VERY unique, almost anime/manga-esque, story idea anyway. It seems perfect for over there.

Dejablue 12-25-2009 12:54 PM

Yeah their OP and ED music is pretty boss. Even if the intro's themselves are just footage from the show pasted together.

Ninjinister 12-25-2009 08:52 PM

I bought the single for Turtles4 just because 'Everybody' rocks that much.

Dejablue 12-25-2009 09:20 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztjjESB53bw Yeah this song rocks. Its too bad the show tanked over there. It was like they were trying to make into some really big/cool thing just like the 80's show.

I wonder if Japan gets the comic book...lol I doubt it.

DrSpengler 12-26-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dejablue (Post 742976)
I wonder if Japan gets the comic book...lol I doubt it.

They don't. They never got any of the Western comics over there, even in the 80s. They produced their own manga through Dengeki Comics, but that's it.

The only thing the 2k3 series got over there was some fan comics ("Doujinshi"), most of them porn, as I understand it.

Gyt Kaliba 12-26-2009 11:42 AM

Not even the Turtles are safe from becoming hentai...

Then again, isn't that one of the rules of the internet? If it exists, there will be porn of it?

Anyway, this is sorta off-topic but it made me wonder - ok, the old show did good in Japan from what everyone is saying, yes? Did they get the live-action movies as well then? If so, how well did those do over there?

DrSpengler 12-26-2009 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gyt Kaliba (Post 743013)
Did they get the live-action movies as well then? If so, how well did those do over there?

Yeah, they did. TMNT III also got a manga adaptation (though not the first two) which was also published by Dengeki Comics, if that's any indication of their popularity.

The Imagi flick got a late release over there and went straight to video instead of getting released to theaters. As with the 2k3 series, it didn't really excite anyone (though I'm told that a Japanese fansub of the movie had been batting around well before the official release and was fairly popular among old timey Japanese TMNT fans).

Gyt Kaliba 12-26-2009 01:52 PM

So I gues it really is that the Turtles just aren't as liked there anymore then, or something. That really is strange, cuz Turtles just seems to have the kind of flow that they would LOVE over there, it's very anime-esque already in some ways.

Oh well, thanks for answering my question. Wonder if there were ever any scanlations of some of the manga and doujins (the non-hentai ones at least), they'd be interesting to read.

DrSpengler 12-26-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gyt Kaliba (Post 743026)
Wonder if there were ever any scanlations of some of the manga and doujins (the non-hentai ones at least), they'd be interesting to read.

You might want to click the link in my sig, then. ;)

NiNi 12-27-2009 10:19 AM

I only saw the first episode in Japanese. I was a little weirded out at first, but then I started to like it. Heck, even listening to the previews was cool. I was disappointed to hear that only the first 2 seasons were dubbed in Japan. I would've loved to have seen SAINW and even season 4 dubbed considering how powerful episodes got.

DrSpengler 12-27-2009 11:42 AM

Meh. The only thing I thought the Japanese dub improved upon (aside from theme songs) was removing the awful fake rock music from the actual episodes.

In "City at War", they replaced that god awful "Running free in NYC" song with some newly commissioned music that was pretty good.

So I praise them for that bit of clarity.

Gyt Kaliba 12-27-2009 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 743051)
You might want to click the link in my sig, then. ;)

...Now I'm wondering how I ever MISSED that in your sig.

Off I go, destination, TMNT Entity!:D

Daniel Orduna 12-30-2009 05:23 AM

it will be fun 2 a tmnt cartoon directed by akira toryama:D

Gyt Kaliba 12-30-2009 02:37 PM

Hmm...I dunno if Toriyama's style of humor would fit with the TMNT, but I would love to see just a drawing of them in his style. It'd be awesome.

Now a TMNT manga drawn by Masakazu Katsura of I"s, Video Girl Ai, and Zetman fame? THAT I want to see.

Mendinso 01-04-2010 07:03 PM

A friend linked me to this thread. I'm probably the only one who has seen most of what was broadcasted in Japan. Infact, I started an entire thread at one point, which you can see here. They also at one point planned to release the DVDs (it was implied it would've been dub only), but then pulled the release without any real explination. I think we should've taken that as the first sign something was up, but... ah well.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask.

As for my opinion of the Japanese dub? I thought it was alright. Took a bit getting used to April's voice, because it at first came across very different from the english voice (somewhat old sounding). Everyone else I thought was okay. Was a bit disapointed when I saw the last episode air there, since they cut out the last portion (though, I was honestly expecting it when I learned it would be the last episode). However, I thought it was nice touch to give a final send-off by the cast.

On another note, I guess Disney XD of Japan will be airing (or aired) the TMNT CG movie. Wonder how well that'll be recieved on that channel... Hope that the rest of this series will eventually get released in Japan, maybe on that channel.

Also, for those wondering what is currently in the timeslot that TMNT2003 had taken, it's currently Dora the Explorer. Soul Eater finished airing at 51 episodes, before getting replaced by that.

This sorta reminds me of TMNT87 getting replaced by Evangelion, except in reverse in this scenario. :lol:

doomiscool 02-07-2010 03:50 PM

I've seen the openings before, but those previews for the episodes were just plain weird :lol:

Sage Ninja 03-19-2010 11:14 PM

this might be interesting episode previews of the japanese version:


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