NBC Drops Prime Time Leno
 

Unless you can provide a link that says otherwise, all of this is still in the unconfirmed column. The most recent stuff I'm reading says that Fox is now making Conan an offer.

One thing that's certain: I absolutely hate Jay Leno more now than I already did.

Saw this story on Inside Edition this afternoon.

Yeah, well, nothing is finalized at all. It's all still speculation on what could happen, and it seems that what does happen is in Conan's court ATM. Not that he has any good choices, but they're also not easy choices, so I think it'll be awhile before this is settled.

Why? What did he do?

Didn't leave NBC when he was supposed to. Now that he's failing in prime-time, like everyone knew he would, instead of just saying, "Well, it was fun, time to find something new to try!" he's screwing Conan over (AND everyone who works for him). When it was announced Conan was getting The Tonight Show ages ago, he said he wanted to avoid all the crap that happened when he took over for Johnny Carson. Now he's gone and made it as big of a mess as ever.

And he's not funny. :dead:

Doesn't sound like it was his fault. He had a long contract and NBC forced him out of the Tonight Show because they were afraid of losing Conan to fox. Now both guys are sucking in the ratings and they want to move back to the status quo.

All of the mess really falls on NBC from what I can tell.

Leno agreed to give up The Tonight Show, but got whiny about it when the time came to actually go. NBC feared he'd go to another network, so they devised the prime-time thing. Yes, NBC themselves are very much to blame for the mess. But my dislike for Leno himself remains.

So do I.

Whatever happens, I hope Conan gets a good a deal as possible.

Jay Leno show is now officially cancelled:

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watc...celed_nbc.html

Hmm... that means Wayne Brady had a shot.

I'm content with Conan just being pushed back to 12:05. Glad he wasn't taken away completely. I wonder how he must feel about all this?

I'd imagine he's pretty fu*king pissed. He gave up his New York show to move himself, his family, his staff, and their families all the way to the smelliest town in the southwest to get the almighty Tonight Show only to have Jay-fu*king-Leno once again prove himself to be an attention whoring asshole and not only push Conan back to midnight, but to also completely destroy the once holy Tonight Show legacy (which is the main thing Conan wanted so badly) in the process. That slot has no future after Leno now. As soon as Jimmy Fallon gets canceled from the 1AM slot (nobody can survive that late), they'll just give Jay back the whole hour and push Conan back to 12:30am/11:30.

Eighteen years later, and David Letterman was proved right. Jay Leno is a backstabbing dick. At this point, I hope Conan and his crew pull a Letterman and ditch for Fox. I'm sick of NBC making him water down his comedy for the old crank crowd. I want my masturbating bear dammit! They gave Jay three whole years to find his niche when he took the show back in '93, and Conan only got six months. NBC is a terrible network run by terrible people who make terrible decisions.

The funny thing about this whole affair is that Jay Leno is damaged goods now. When they put him back in his old slot, Letterman is going to smear his ass. Jay will get what he deserves, but Conan shouldn't have to suffer for it. Go home Jay. Nobody likes you or your fat Mr. Potato face and your worse than average simpleton jokes about fat people and Michael Jackson.

NBC needs to drop Leno entirely. Is there anyone under the age of 65 that actually finds him funny anymore?

No, not funny. And his voice makes me want to punch him in the face.

Howard Stern also has some great "Jay Leno's a backstabbing prick" stories.

Here's Patton Oswalt's take on the situation:

I have a friend who does, but she also thinks that every movie Hugh Grant has ever been in is a masterpiece :P

Conan has issued an official statement:
http://www.kare11.com/news/news_arti...6092&catid=391

I'm so ****ing mad right now!

Conan's show and he himself has meant a lot to me through the years. I.. I.. I ****ing don't even know what to say. He's just been a constant source of entertainment to me for the last seven years, and he deserves ****ing better.

****! I'm sorry, but that's... I can't even... Bah, **** it... I dunno what to say... I'm too sad and angry.

Man..this does stink..now the Tonight Show's going to go back to "same old...". Jay Leno has worn out his welcome, many times over.

This really sucks...I've been a fan of Conan's for years and have really enjoyed him on the Tonight Show. Now it's looking more and more like he won't be on TV anywhere (at least for now). I don't really get this whole thing. Why did Leno leave the Tonight Show in the first place if he wasn't serious about retiring? Shouldn't Leno be the one who has to look for a new place to take his show since his show was the one canceled due to low ratings? I hope things somehow work out, but this isn't looking good...

NBC is a goddamn mad house run by arrogant mother****ers that are more ignorant than a mega-bank CEO. Conan O'Brien is the funniest guy on TV, bar NONE. He's been making me laugh for most of my good years, and a little bit before that. Jay Leno is a tired old sack of stale humor that just want to win. He doesn't care the cost. He just wants to win. Period. He's terrible in every way. He's a terrible comic, he's a terrible host, he's a terrible writer, and he's a terrible person.

Conan's humor at the end of the day has gotten me through some rough stuff when I needed it. The thought of not having him on TV because some arrogant bastard at NBC decided to do something crazy to compensate for his tiny penis is depressing as hell to me. That network deserves to burn in hell. Slowly. I consider myself a loyal person. If they're going to drive Conan out for Leno's retiree audience, I'll never watch that network again. Not even for 30 Rock. Ever. I know a lot of folks who share my sentiment. We grew up with Conan. They take away my Conan, and I unplug the TV from the cable box. He's about the last thing that the TV gets any use for that isn't a video game.

I'll stop now because I could go on flaming all night at this point. NBC: Nothing But Crap. Burn in HELL you pieces of sh*t.

Damn, I haven't seen TMB like this since the Twilight Princess delay.

Jimmy Kimmel last night:



If you click over to YouTube there are more clips. :tlol:

I completely understand Conan's position of not wanting to accept a time change for the Tonight Show. However, I actually think he's completely wrong in believing a time slot change will be the death of the Tonight Show. I actually think it would do wonders for his ratings. Right now he's competing against something that neither Letterman nor Leno really had to do. He's competing against the Colbert Report. Letterman and Leno weren't really trying to grab up the demographic of Colbert Nation but that's right up Conan's alley. By accepting a Timeslot change to 12:05 EST, he should be capable of grabbing the Stewart/Colbert demographic as both those shows are over. I don't really see loyal Conan followers suddenly switching to Letterman either. They might prefer the Letterman opening monolog to watching the Jay Leno show for 30 minutes but I’m pretty positive Team Conan will be just as likely to watch at 12:05 am as they are at 11:35 pm.

Except Conan isn't referring to ratings in his statement. He means the actual image of what The Tonight Show is. The Tonight Show is *the* staple late night talk show with a very deep and respected history. The Tonight Show is *not* a second string show that follows the wants and desires of another guy who refuses to see that his time has come and gone.

The only audience Leno is getting is the audience that hates change. Because Leno hasn't gone away, they haven't had to accept change. Take Leno away 100% and things will fall into place for Conan and The Tonight Show just fine.

Bingo. And the other thing people don't realize, is that this isn't the first time a situation like this has happened. Back in 1962, Jack Parr decided to leave the Tonight Show. He retired because of the five night a week workload. Then after Johnny took over, Parr changed his mind and NBC gave him a prime-time talk show. It eventually tanked, and NBC stuck with Johnny Carson.

Gee, I wonder how that turned out for them?

Howard Stern is THE MAN!!! LOVE HIM!!!

Leno sucks!!! He can't hold a candle to Conan. WTF is NBC thinking?

Yep. Its good to be back.

...what? Just... what?

Granted, I don't follow NBC and what-not since it doesn't really affect anyone here in my rock of the world but just... what?!

Okay. I have to get this off my chest: I absoultely hate Leno. Can't stand him ever since the first time I heard his 'jokes'. Didn't laugh. Didn't smile. You could smell the jerk-ward callone of his through the TV. That look of his? That smug smile he gets like "oh yeah beetches I'm the best"? The one that he wears all the time? Yeah. Rubs me the wrong way a lot.

Conan (heck, no one for that matter) should have to suffer because some old fart with the humour of a bent teaspoon just wants to have a temper tantrum every time he is told to get off stage. Nothing should be moved for this f***tard.

I completely agree it's the staple of late night talk shows but I don't see how a 30 minute time slot changes that. I love Conan and don't find Leno funny. The only two things I really laugh at that Jay does are Headlines and Jay Walking and neither of those really have anything to do with Leno’s humor. I'd be completely fine with Leno disappearing from television altogether. But I don't necessarily think NBC is screwing Conan on this. It is a business after all. When Leno left the Tonight Show it had the best ratings of any late night show. Since Conan took over that’s not the case. Do I think they should give Conan more time to transition and build up his base? Yes. Do I think putting Jay back at 11:35 will suddenly mean the Jay Leno Show will have huge ratings and compete with David Letterman again? No. But NBC is a failing network and it has the right to make decisions that it thinks are in the best interest of the network as a whole. I may not agree with them, you may not agree with them, heck even Conan may not agree with them but it doesn’t necessarily mean NBC is doing anything wrong. All they ever promised Conan in his contract was the Tonight Show and that's what he has. Nowhere in his contract does it state he gets the 11:35 EST time slot. It says he gets to be the host of the Tonight Show and they aren’t trying to take that away from him. Plus even if he quits the tonight show, his contract wouldn’t even allow him to move his show to Fox right away. NBC has all the power in this situation and they know it. Is it fair? Probably not, but it’s the way things work.

Because, as David Letterman and many others have noted, after midnight it's not "The Tonight Show" anymore - it's "The Tomorrow Morning Show". The show has directly followed affiliate news since its inception, and the idea of messing with that institution just to appease Leno's ego is unthinkable to a lot of people - especially Conan, who seems to be the only person at NBC who actually cares about the show.

I went to The Tonight Show site last night to look at ticket info and requested a ticket for the only date they had still open before the Feb. 12 Winter Olympics deadline, which was Feb. 10. Today I got an e-mail confirming the ticket, so if he hangs on that long I'm there. :)

However, I've been reading that next week may be his last week if things keep going the way they seem to be. :cry: It looks like they had a planned week off for Jan. 25-29, so that might play into it. Arg.

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Then NBC can officially rot in hell. However many more days Conan sticks it out will the be last days I ever watch NBC. Burn in hell Jeff Zucker you *****u*ker.

Overreact much?

You don't really know TMB, do you?