TMNT movie 4 in 96?
 

so ive been looking at the awesome Playmates Catalogs that VaughnMichael posted here and on the last page of the 96 catalog there is an add for the 4th TMNT movie to come out in 1996 seen here

so what i wanna know is what was this movie gonna be? does anyone know anything about it?

An interdimensional mutant turtle named Kirby. There are pages in Eastman's Artobiography illustrating this character. I think Laird had also made a Blast From The Past post about it, saying that they were going with the Red Sky theme of hyper-mutation, and that Steve Barron was going to direct. Obviously, this was all scrapped.

wow interesting. and was this gonna be live action again? and any scanned pics of this new turtle?

Here be some links to Peter Laird's blog:


Donatello

Leonardo

Splinter

Michelangelo

Raphael

Roseangelo's info on it, here:
http://ninja-pizza.blogspot.com/2008...rth-movie.html

And here's some Kirby:
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/SDC10082.jpg

I'm kind of glad that this film never happened. Not that it really matters, since the Turtles in 1996 weren't what they used to be back in the days, but this film wouldn't have helped either.

But, if Steve Barron was involved, who knows how it would have been.

It was going to be truly terrible, even worse than the movie we got in 2007.

Kirby the 5th Turtle in some kind of bastardization of the Donatello special, as others have mentioned. But it didn't just stop there. It was going to involve a wacky, evil Empress from another dimension played by Kevin Eastman's then-wife and later, when NT:TNM was on the air, it was retooled to include Venus into the mix (total of 6 Turtles in the same movie, then).

There were some admittedly cool biomechanical designs Dooney did for that incarnation, though, that were presumably how the Turtles would outfit themselves to fight against the wacky invaders from another dimension.

wow thats awesome. while im glad this movie wasnt made its interesting to see the thought process for something like this. thanks for all the pics....i wonder what Kirby's bandanna color would be?

I believe it was white?

i was thinking either white or black but white seems to make a bet choice for "future". so heres another question. how is he related to the turtles? i mean hes gotta be some how since hes a mutant turtle also.

He's not a mutant turtle. I forget, but he's either supposed to be what the equivalent to the Kirby guy from the Donatello special transforms into in lala land/dimension, or something Kirby (or somebody) draws that comes to life in lala land/dimension to accompany the Turtles on their way to fight the evil Empress from the other dimension. Or something.

No matter which way you cut the suck in this case, all you get is suck.

hmmm interesting.........

Yeah, I'm glad this movie never got off the ground. The Next Mutation was bad enough but fortunately very few people are aware of it since it was just a one season TV show. If it went to theaters worldwide, then TMNT may have never recovered.

Although, people would probably hold a higher opinion of TMNT III in comparison. :lol:

lol thats true. cuz then people would be like "well TMNT was bad but TMNT 4 takes the cake" lmao.

I thought the ideas woulda been neat for a cartoon... but certainly not a live action movie.

The evil empress makes me think of Rita Repulsa from Power Rangers

That stuff is bizarre...wonder what they were smoking when they thought that sh*T up?

I would have loved to see it happen...but then I REALLY REALLY enjoy trainwrecks.

Yeah, same here...

ya as a kid it would of been great. i mean i saw TMNT 3 twice in theaters and thought it was so awesome...wasn't until later that i realized it wasn't as awesome as i thought lol.

Thank god they never did this movie. I really dislike the Splinter and Raphael look from the pictures.

are there any scripts/treatments floating around for our reading pleasure? the logo type is similar to the 07 logo... interesting.

i'm more interested in reading the hallmark miniseries script... but this grabbed my interest, as well...

I wonder if the movie would have sparked new cartoon series with them facing the Empress as often as the Shredder. Perhaps the Empress would have replaced Dregg/DragonLord?

guess we will never know.....

Seriously? I never knew this.

Glad it never happened. Looks like it would have been a disaster.

It was going to be, in the end, literally Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation - The Motion Picture.

Of course it would have been a disaster.

Who doesn't enjoy a good train wreck though (as long as no one gets hurt, of course)?

I don't know how it could but this sounds like it would have been even worse than 3 even if it had Steve Barron to direct it or not

I remember reading a script for TMNT IV a few years back. It involved them being much older, meaner and lots of dissention; up against a powerful Chinese mafia that even wastes the Foot and Splinter!! The Turtles have to come together and train harder than ever before (kinda like in the first movie) in order to beat these newcomers.

That sounds like you might be talking about Andrew_NDB's fan script (maybe, I haven't read in forever).

Yeah, that sounds like mine. A Chinese Triad comes to New York in the middle of a NY Foot civil war (ala City at War), wipes them out, and murders Splinter. The Turtles take a year off in training, truly embodying ninja now (I think even all putting on all-black bandannas), then come back to clean house on the Triad.

The Triad's upper heirarchy was made up of three guys: one more of a businessman, one sort of a silent Jet Li-in-Lethal Weapon 4-type, and one sort of a mystical guy with his eyes self-sewn shut. Karai is in it too, and we see the formation of a Truce between Karai, the Foot remnants, and the TMNT, formed to kind of take on the common enemy in the Triad.

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/...screenplay.zip

That's the one!! :D Excellent work, BTW!!! I especially loved the odd bits of humor thrown into an otherwise dark and action/drama-packed movie. :)

Power Rangers
 

And the Power Rangers were very popular back in 1996...

The fourth movie sound pretty interesting, and if it had come out I'm sure I would have loved it since I was 9 at the time and still loved the turtles. I can see the movie would have been a bomb though and it would have been seen as the "turtles jump the shark" movie with all the mutations and things they didn't like or seemed appropriate for their turtles. Especially since by the time it would have been released most of the original fans had been in their teens and not cared about it and call it lame even without watching it.

If you take the five parter East-meets-west, add a little more budget and modify the script it a little would have worked perfectly as a fourth movie and it would have been awesome.

That is plenty weird. There were some ideas that actually sounded a bit interesting to me, but overall I think this would be better suited for an animated treatment. It's weird how this completely went over my head, I mean around '96 I was still into Turtles. It's weird, but I think if this movie would have happened it would have had a big impact down the line; possibly changing the direction or even existence of the 2K3 show and thus affecting Turtles Forever :shudder: ugh, well some things are meant to happen, and some aren't meant to. I'm happy with where we are these days. :)