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CyberCubed 03-21-2010 04:54 PM

Why did Shredder/Krang always go to NYC to take over the world?
 
Ignoring the, "its just a cartoon," angle, Shredder/Krang know the Turtles live in NYC. The dimensional portal could transport Shredder to any place on Earth.

So why do they keep planning all their evil schemes in NYC, when instead they could go to Britian, South America, Australia, Asia, or anywhere else in the world and plan their evil world domination schemes there instead?

The Turtles would have no clue what they're doing, and it would take them awhile to fly their blimp over to where they are.

Thoughts?

Roseangelo 03-21-2010 05:06 PM

They tried going to South Dakota once, but the Turtles still stopped them. And then all those European episodes. It doesn't matter where they go, the Turtles are gonna stop them. I'd guess sticking to New York most of the time would just be more convenient.

ToTheNines 03-21-2010 05:24 PM

I can not believe you made this thread lol

Candy Kappa 03-21-2010 05:48 PM

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Why did Shredder/Krang always go to NYC to take over the world?
The plot said so:tgrin:

turtle1237 03-21-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa (Post 761907)
The plot said so:tgrin:

Shredder blame the writters a few times lol.

Icebot 03-21-2010 06:35 PM

Shredder and the turtles also went to Niagra Falls in Return of the Technodrome. And what about the punk frogs? They're from Florida. The turtles battled Shredder there one time.

I was actually surprised they never went to Japan. Of course there was The Legend of Koji but they never went there in the present.

TheCanadiandrome 03-21-2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by turtle1237 (Post 761910)
Shredder blame the writters a few times lol.

rofl!!! :tlol:

Powder 03-21-2010 06:48 PM

Well isn't NY kinda like the financial epicenter of America? The UN, the statue of liberty, twin towers RIP, wall street, these are all symbols of power so to speak (& freedom in the case of the big green chick) so it makes sense to me. Not to mention, Saki's arch nemesis, was Hamato Yoshi, who lived in... you guessed it, NYC.

Scandia 03-21-2010 08:12 PM

Largest city in the world's most powerful country?

Somebody else did have a vendetta against NYC, after all :(

ToTheNines 03-21-2010 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 761930)
Well isn't NY kinda like the financial epicenter of America? The UN, the statue of liberty, twin towers RIP, wall street, these are all symbols of power so to speak (& freedom in the case of the big green chick) so it makes sense to me. Not to mention, Saki's arch nemesis, was Hamato Yoshi, who lived in... you guessed it, NYC.

That's not really the point. In season 3 they were always looking for power for the Technodrome. There are multiple places to get sources of energy on the globe, but they always went to NY and got effed.

... I can't believe I'm discussing this :P

gobo 03-21-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 761892)
Why did Shredder/Krang always go to NYC to take over the world?

I think the pattern is more that they always followed wherever the Turtles went. After all, they targeted European countries a few times. The logic behind it? Well... There isn't any.

sdp 03-21-2010 11:25 PM

Well they weren't always trying to take over the world, I mean it was their objective but not what they were trying to do every single episode. Sometimes they just tried to defeat the turtles and sometimes they were just trying to steal resources for whatever reason in which case the resources always seemed to be located in NYC since it is a big city.

And for the other times I guess they thought that if they could defeat the turtles no one could stop them so they went after NYC first to see the turtles try to stop them and if they defeated them then it was all a cake walk after that.

I mean thats the best explanations I can come up with besides the fact that its a show.

Coola Yagami 03-21-2010 11:58 PM

Makes sense. I mean, defeat the Turtles first, then noone can stop them. And of course, Shredder always wants revenge on the Turtles... so....

odupianist 03-22-2010 07:52 AM

Have you seen the gas prices lately? Do you know how big the Technodrome's gas tank is? Seriously, it's an easy answer if you really thought about.

ToTheNines 03-22-2010 09:03 AM

Have you seen gas prices in the 80's/90's? lol

Ulisses31 03-22-2010 09:32 AM

80´s great era... no one would question something like this then... just would have fun seeing the show...:D

But this question can be made about almost USA media production... but the answer is simple... why NYC was in almost 80´s productions (see movies from the 80/90´s)... because there was the source of the money to make them and some of the target market.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 03-22-2010 09:37 AM

Casey's Grandmother Had a Farm
 
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Originally Posted by Ulisses31 (Post 762032)
80´s great era... no one would question something like this then... just would have fun seeing the show...:D

But this question can be made about almost USA media production... but the answer is simple... why NYC was in almost 80´s productions (see movies from the 80/90´s)... because there was the source of the money to make them and some of the target market.

I did. I would think it would be more fun with more adventures in the rural parts of the USA. Casey Jones grandmother had a farm in most TMNT versions.

Ulisses31 03-22-2010 09:47 AM

Yes we know that the cartoon and the original run comics were so different...

Cartoons - for kids (target age 3 to 11)

Comics - for teens (target age 10 to 19)

Not just that but who read the original comic always see the cartoon has something lame.:trazz:

That were the cartoons then... and I believe were much better than today... too much violence, too much "real", to much "explained" cartoons nowadays, were go the silly fun?:teek:

cowabunga14 03-22-2010 08:28 PM

Probably because they were villians and that's what most villains goal is.

Prowler 03-29-2010 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 761897)
I can not believe you made this thread lol

This.

It's an American cartoon and most of the action takes place in NYC.

In Anime aliens go to Tokyo to take over the Earth.

Newton Gimmick 03-29-2010 03:41 PM

Exactly, it's a regional thing.

Now would the TMNT always been in NYC had the real TMNT (or original TMNT) already had a connection to them? Probably not. They likely would have just made up a place. But since NYC was already there and established it made sense.

In the UK, Doctor Who is always saving England. The bad guys always go there.

In Japan, Godzilla and friends always go there.

Same deal here.

Less interesting if they attack Tulsa.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 03-30-2010 08:18 AM

New York City
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 763976)
This.

It's an American cartoon and most of the action takes place in NYC.

In Anime aliens go to Tokyo to take over the Earth.

Yes, but the USA is so much more than New York City.

TMNT88 03-30-2010 10:52 AM

Leave NYC? Have you SEEN gas prices for a 100 ton roving city with a laser eyeball? :trazz:

Redeemer 03-30-2010 12:54 PM

If not NYC Then where? Sidney?

rav4ge 03-30-2010 02:58 PM

Shredder probably stays in NYC for the chinese food.

Ulisses31 03-30-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 764177)
If not NYC Then where? Sidney?

Hong Kong or Rio de Janeiro. Or Paris, better sewers are there.

Samhain 03-30-2010 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Choppy (Post 764200)
Shredder probably stays in NYC for the chinese food.

Heck thats reason enough for me!

Redeemer 03-30-2010 05:33 PM

Chineese food= Awesomeness

Coola Yagami 03-31-2010 02:54 AM

Shredder figures if he can make it in NY, he can make it anywhere....

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 03-31-2010 06:37 AM

Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Ulisses31 (Post 764214)
Hong Kong or Rio de Janeiro. Or Paris, better sewers are there.

Two "Vacation in Europe" episodes ("Tower of Power") and "Rust Never Sleeps" are set there.

NameGoesHere1066 03-31-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 761892)
Ignoring the, "its just a cartoon," angle, Shredder/Krang know the Turtles live in NYC. The dimensional portal could transport Shredder to any place on Earth.

So why do they keep planning all their evil schemes in NYC, when instead they could go to Britian, South America, Australia, Asia, or anywhere else in the world and plan their evil world domination schemes there instead?

The Turtles would have no clue what they're doing, and it would take them awhile to fly their blimp over to where they are.

Thoughts?

I always wondered that my self. If I was trying to take over the world I sure as hell wouldn't keep striking where I'm garanteed to get busted.

gobo 03-31-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 764335)
Two "Vacation in Europe" episodes ("Tower of Power") and "Rust Never Sleeps" are set there.

And "TURTLES ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS".

Redeemer 03-31-2010 10:27 PM

Here is the only thing I can figure.

-NYC/Manhattan have great natural boundries. Manhattan is a island surronded by water. NYC itself is heavily populated and all the tall buildings ensure good protection, not to mention alot of hostage situations. This would be ideal to fight off goverment military.

-Their greatest obsticle for world domanence is there. What is the point in trying if they will eventually be foiled.

-It is an ideal region for the technodrome sub-terranian activities. No fualt lines or volcanic area and good land above sea level. ex(Sidney sub sealeval in spots. Italy volcanic activity. West coast u.s. Many fualt lines. UK not enough sub terrain room.)

-Last but not least its a cartoon!

TheCanadiandrome 03-31-2010 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 764323)
Shredder figures if he can make it in NY, he can make it anywhere....

rofl! cue Sinatra! :tlol:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 04-01-2010 11:34 AM

Train
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gobo (Post 764451)
And "TURTLES ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS".

I love that episode. Complain about the show being set in just some countries, but here they do France, Germany, Austria, Hungary and Romania within one episode.

TheCanadiandrome 04-01-2010 03:05 PM

because the voices in their heads told them to

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 04-02-2010 05:24 AM

Canada
 
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Originally Posted by TMNT_25 (Post 764604)
because the voices in their heads told them to

I would like to see an episode set in Canada (musn't be about Shredder). It would probably be about ice hockey, and include Casey Jones.

Lynn 04-02-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa (Post 761907)
The plot said so:tgrin:

*L* So true.

Redeemer 04-02-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 764754)
I would like to see an episode set in Canada (musn't be about Shredder). It would probably be about ice hockey, and include Casey Jones.

Casey Jones vs The Shredder! lol

TheCanadiandrome 04-02-2010 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 764754)
I would like to see an episode set in Canada (musn't be about Shredder). It would probably be about ice hockey, and include Casey Jones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 764844)
Casey Jones vs The Shredder! lol

rofl, that would be sweet


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