What if the original cartoon never ended?
 

What if the original TMNT cartoon was like Simpsons or Pokemon, where the series literally kept going for 20+ years?

Do you think the 2k3 series would have existed alongside it, or would the old toon still running prevent PL/4kids to create a new cartoon?

Also, what do you think would have become of it? I'm sure if it had continued past Season 10, they would have come up with new villains every season or brought Shredder back more frequently.

Well, the original 'toon definitely decreased in quality over time, but it is hardly as if there is a lack of good ideas for the world the Turtles lived in. The Archie comics by themselves could easily have provided plenty of new ideas and villains. I'd have loved to see the 'toon mature a bit as it went on, taking on some of the slightly darker (but still plenty kid friendly) stories from those comics, like the invasion of the Malignoids. I have given my right arm to see the Future Turtle saga brought to life.

I'd really love to be able to carry my mod far enough to play with some of those stories and characters....my quiet ambition is to one day do get all the way up to Armaggon. Unfortunately, it depends entirely on what the artists feel like creating.

I don't think that, given the situation as it existed at the time, the Turtles would have continued to be good for 20+ years, but it SHOULD have. :)

It would probably be terrible at this point. All good things must come to an end and whatnot.

I'm thinking the old toon might've taken a path almost similar to the new toon, 'cause while that had a slightly more serious tone, it never totally left the "kid-friendly" realm, well maybe except for SAINW, that's one mile they probably would never have gone. But they could've introduced several new villains and have them stick around at least a while, Shredder probably never would've been completely out of the picture either.

Simpsons
 

No, I don't think the 2003 show would exist, look at the Simpsons, it's still just one show. I would not like to see them still being teenagers (which they probably would) and the world around them develop (like technology, natural science and the political world map).

agreed. Plus the sci-fi elements where killing the series toward the end.

I would like to see a turtles series with the design of the ot characters in turtles forever

In the series finale, Divide and Conquer, the technodrome was completely destroyed, but it could easily be rebuilt with the help of Dregg's microbots from season 10. If the show kept going, the technodrome could come back just like that. And Shredder and Krang could take control of it away from Dregg. Then they could become the main villains again throughout the years.

I think it would have gone down in quality.

it's possible, but then we wouldn't have gotten TMNT Turtles Forever

I had one season drafted where Shredder returned for a two-part season premiere only to get killed (or so they thought) and Splinter woulkd reamain in Japan and even get demutated!!

The Turtles would face a new villain/enemy of Landor, Merrick and Carter named Kron who was responsible for the derstruction of Carter's home in the future. He and his super solders were defeated with help from the Turtles' restored mutant powers and sent to the Dimension X labor mines where he was rescued by Krang who recruited him as his new second-in-command. Krang also had an army in his new Technodrome he "borrowed" from Drakus/Berserko (some things never change).

The Turtles spent most of the rest of the season battling Kron and Krang, while Krang learned more about the Turtles' powers and how it could help him supercharge his T-2000 and conquer the universe. He soon gets Leonardo's energy and uses it to almost return to Earth but the Turtles stop him.

Fearing for Leo's safety, the others become too protective of him especially when dealing with a new gang of well-armed Japanese fur smugglers. Leo runs away and winds up on the same ship as the crooks and realizes he's headed for Japan and the gangs' leader. The rest of the Turtles and Carter head for Japan and meet the ringleader - CyberShredder!! After a fierce battle, Shredder is beaten for good this time and the Turtles return home.

Once there they encounter a shape-shifter who poses as the city's top dignitaries committing crimes at various energy facilities. His main alter-ego is a psychologist intent on studying this new phenemenon once the "criminals" are brought to justice. Seeing a special interestin the Turtles, he sets a trap for them by posing as April and getting her arrested. The Turtles rescue April but everyone is taken to the lab where he reveals that he's an alien and his boss, Kron, is seeking the terms of their surrender as they prepare the final invasion. All seems lost when Carter arrives and rescues everyone. The villains escape after a brief battle and it looks like they win... except the T-2000 has been fully powered up!!

Realizing the final battle is nigh, the crew are alerted when a giant portal opens above the city. They head through by blimp and enter the T-2000. A fight breaks out and Kron uses leftover energy to mutate. The others fight him with their powers but he demutates and steals them. Now they're in trouble!! The T-2000 is ultra-powerful now and can't be stopped. Except... using too much energy at once weakens its weapons system and shields so they enter and cause the place to self-destruct, destroying Krang. Kron and the soldiers are easily dispatched ansd returned to the future.

Archie TMN Adventures comics
 

The show could still run without the Technodrome. The Archie TMNT Adventures comics did.

maybe there would be celebrity guest stars every episode that helped them solve there mystery each week. like chris walken, and paul rubens. not at all the globe troters or batman

Ha I just pretend it never ended anyway :trazz:

Such an "Illumanated" pespective of looking at things. I contest good things go on with reinvention and evolution

Yeah it had to end, the slapstick could only go for so long before the Turtles would have to resort to actual combat to compete with the other action cartoons at the time. And if they did that, the change would have been too jarring after 10 seasons of slapstick and fights where all Raph did was throw a sai.

Just fine, they will just create new jokes to go with the new eras and pop culture and they would update things more and continue. I think it would work.

As much as i would have loved it to never end it had to. End it why its good like Seinfeld or else it would be like The Simpsons where it would get really stupid.

it def needed to end

the last 3 seasons were'nt funny anymore

michaelangelo still never used his nunchucks... shredder and krang were long gone

i wish the final episode had everybody in it though

similar to x-mens graduation day ep i loved that episode

the final tmnt ep should ahve been similar to night of the rogues.

There'd be a SH*TLOAD of color and voice errors.

And lots of YouTube Poops.

i could less tell you what they would have done with it, moreso what i think they should do with it, such as leaving out the poochie character and putting in karai, drop the red sky attitude and writing and let the characters grow up on their own without suddenly transforming them into all serious characters (or else write it as an alternate universe)...i mean, in dragon ball, you can see it develop from its whimsical comical nature all on its own without making goku be like "it's a new season ALL OF A SUDDEN FOR SOME MYSTERIOUS REASON I'M SERIOUS BECAUSE OF SCENES NOBODY SAW IN AN EPISODE THAT NEVER AIIIIIIIIRED" and that gradual step was a lot nicer, and is in fact, part of why people love dragon ball!

but here it's "WE'RE A DIFFERENT BRAND OF TMNT, SORT OF IN YOUR FACE TO A DEGREE (at least up to where the censors won't hit us) AND WE ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE A NEW PAL NAMED GARY STU WHO FOR SOME REASON GETS MORE SCREEN TIME THAN WE DO. ALSO, WE'RE EXTREEEEEEEME THOUGH SOMETIMES I WONDER WHY ITS CALLED TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES WHEN GARY STU IS IN MORE SCENES THAN US"

i'm not so sure what would have happened to shredder, but karai would at least reinforce the plot of the day for us, and it'd still be half-refreshing, half-tip to the old shredder. only i think the sad part is they'd give her that typical phony asian woman's voice a la lotus blossom...which...they sorta did anyway, but hey whatever

april i'm sure as a "freelance reporter" would have found a stable job with a new company if channel 6 didn't move and she with it, and irma's still her best friend, much to the chagrin of the anti-irma nerds i see on this forum

and there'd be a small trend of more deep character-driven/focused episodes that aren't just, uh, donatello's degree, but are more, uh...you know, they take a look at the character at a more intricate level and his/her relationships/involvements with the others, i think it'd happen even for the villains if they ran out if ideas, but that might be going too far because that's a posture mainly reserved for a more grownup crowd and nobody cares about developing characters unless it reinforces his self-insert character's self-esteem

original character do not steal

I would be the most record breaking cartoon in US TV history instead of The Simpsons?

1987 TMNT cartoon
 

The 1987 TMNT cartoon once had the record, until February 1997.

i wish the it was still going on...but the "red sky" episodes fell into a trap common with cartoons of its time...

it became too chaotic...the original x-men cartoon suffered from the same syndrome. its hard to put my finger on exactly what this means but i tell you i just know it when i see it.

Power Rangers
 

Wasn't it more inspired by the "Power Rangers", which was a live-action show.

It would have gone through changes and I don't doubt that it would have at one point been revamped to look similar to how 2K3 turned out. I also doubt all the voice actors would have stuck around forever. It's hard to say though but the route they were going couldn't have lasted forever. The Simpsons is a comedy series and it can be topical, Turtles really isn't like that. Also it was on so long it needed to change to either appeal to the kids who had grown up since it began or attract new kids. It's a lot harder for a kids series to last as long as Turtles did or even longer.

Fan fiction
 

Talking about Simpsons, I recall Jephael writing fan fiction some years ago where the TMNT met the Simpsons.

Actually I had the Mighty Mutanimals meet The Simpsons.

TMNT fanfiction
 

I don't recall that, just "Rescue from Dimension X". I liked your TMNT fan fiction, I don't know if so much new TMNT fan fiction on the Internet based on the 1987 cartoon is written anymore (maybe some Archie).