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Your personal ultimate roster for a TMNT fighting game
If the developers of Smash Up knew what they were doing, they would have given the fans a game celebrating the 25th anniversary and incorporating all of the TMNT universes. My question is: If you could design your own TMNT roster, which characters (and versions) would you choose?
Guidelines: 20 characters. Specify which version of the character you would use as their "primary" form. The rest of the versions can be unlocked without requiring another character. For example, "OT Leonardo" would be your primary character, and 2k3, movie, Mirage, etc. would all be unlockable skins for that character. You can choose how many of the 20 characters are unlockable and how many you start with. My Roster (characters in red are unlockable) 2k3 Leonardo OT Donatello 1990 movie Raph Mirage Mike Movie Shredder 2k3 Splinter Movie Casey Jones OT Bebop OT Rocksteady 2k3 Karai NT:TNM Venus OT Rat King OT Leatherhead OT Slash OT Baxter Stockman (Fly) 2k3 Bishop Movie Tatsu 2k3 Hun 2k3 Usagi OT Krang |
OT Leonardo
Mirage Raph 2K3 Don (Would definitely have to have a cyborg alt. costume from Vol. 3) TMNT Mikey OT April Vol. 3 Casey Jones (American Flag Mask) Mirage Shredder OT Bebop OT Rocksteady OT Krang Dark Horse Usagi Yojimbo TMNT Splinter Mirage Nobody Mirage Savanti Romero Ultimate Ninja 2K3 Karai OT Foot Soldier Tokka Rahzar Null (Demon Form) I gotta mention The Mighty Mutanimals & Choate as they aren't featured (but they would've been with more characters!). If this were a Smash Bros. Brawl type of game with 30-35 characters, they'd definitely make the cut. |
I was thinking of it being a Smash Bros type of game just with fewer characters lol. I think if we extend it to 30 - 35 everybody would use the same ones.
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No specific "version" as default. It would be either some mixture of previous versions, or a completely new design altogether. Red are unlockable.
Leonardo Michelangelo Raphael Donatello Splinter Casey April Leatherhead Radical Jagwar Shredder Krang Karai Foot Ninja Bebop Rocksteady Hun Bishop Mozar Complete Carnage |
I really like Powder's list! That would be epic!
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I guess the biggest thing would be how hard would it be to do multiple "costumes" so you can have the Turtles and have various unlock able versions as well.
I mean we could have Mirage, OT, Movie, 2k3, Next Mutation and maybe others. Heck, I think it'd be funny if one of April's alternate skins was Venus, you know, so she's not a whole new character, and would share a move set with April |
Thought I'd give it a try. Roster consist of 35 playable characters and three generics for survival and last the time limit.
tried to include a little of all, but i think I fel a bit short on the diversity. The characters would have different costume/skin as well as appropriate color schemes for team vs team. The costume swaps would have different effects on their attacks and visual effects might differ as well. Start up Roster Good Guys Leonardo (Mirage color, B/w and Toon) Michelangelo (Mirage color, B/w and Toon) Donatello (Mirage color, B/w and Toon) Raphael (Mirage color, B/w and Toon) Casey Jones (Btts, Toon and toon color change with Vol3 mask) April O'Neil (yellow and blue jumpuit. Similar to 2k3) Leatherhead (Mirage and Toon) Villains Bebop ( Original design and Toon ) Rocksteady ( Original design and Toon ) Rat King ( Original design and Toon ) Human Baxter Stockman ( Mirage and Toon ) Karai ( Mirage and Lotus Toon costume ) Slash (Original and Turtles in Time) Unlock-able Roster Good Guys Venus De Milo (Original and next Mutation) Splinter (Toon, Mirage and Live Action Movie) Hamato Yoshi (Original and 2K3) Quarry (Original and 2K3) Mondo Gecko (Original and Toon) Wingnut and Screwloose (Original and Archie) Metalhead ( Toon and original) Fugitoid ( Mirage and Toy design) Utrom with android body ( robot exposed and human-like costume) Ninjara (original and Archie) Villains Tatsu (movie and original) Shredder (Mirage, Mirage B/W, Toon and Super Shredder) Oroku saki (Martial arts gear and Business suit) Tokka (Movie and Original) Razhar (Movie and Original) Krang with android body General Traag ( Toon and original) Fly Baxter Stockman ( Toon and original) Hun (Mirage and 2K3) Savanti Romero (Mirage and Orignal) Antrax ( Toon and original) Chrome Dome ( Toon and original) Survival mode - Time Limit Foot Ninja (Mirage, Mirage B/W and Toon) Utroms (Smash-up and Original) Triceratons (Mirage and Toon) |
Man, it's sort of sad to imagine how awesome a fan service such a game would make... only to realize we'll never get this unless it's in the form of a fan-game. Maybe one day, somebody will pull off an awesome Smash-Up hack.
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I like how everyone throws in at least one semi-obscure character. That's actually a tradition in TMNT fighting games.
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My roster is pretty basic, nobody really obscure. It's because I haven't seen every episode of any series and have read few of the comics so I don't know any really obscure characters.
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NES: Hothead SNES: War, Wingnut(possibly the Archie incarnation), and Aska (original character) Genny: Sisyphus (OC), Ray Fillet, April (as a fighter for the first time) Mutant Melee: Sleeg, "Monster", Traximus (though most are probably acquainted with Triceratons in general) Smash Up: Utrominator Yep, it's a trend, indeed. |
TMNT 1990/Mirage mash up Designs for the TMNT's "regular" skins as I think limiting the TMNT's look to one uinverse hurts more than helps *cough* smash up *cough*
Anyway I'm thinking 20 to start and 33 with the unlockable characters Each "base" character either has their Mirage design or has mixed look ie elements from each universe unless otherwise noted. * signify unlockable skins The good Raph (alternate Mirage and 1990 movie skin*) Leo(alternate Mirage and TNM skin*) Mikey (alternate Mirage and OT skin*) Donnie (alternate Mirage and 2k3 skin*) Splinter(alternate first appearance skin and purple OT kimono*) Radical (alternate black costume*) 2k3 April ( alternate OT yellow jumpsuit and 07' movie costume*) 2k3 Casey Jones (alternate Mirage and 1990 movie costume*) Fugitoid (alternate Volume four giant robot mode*) The bad Shredder (altenate 2k3 and OT skins*) Karai (alternate 2k3 outfit and SNES Tournament Fighters costume*) Tatsu (alternate Khan outfit*) Foot Ninja (alternate 1990 Movie and OT costume*) 2k3 Hun (alternate Mutant form*) 2k3 season 1 Cyborg Robo Baxter (alternate Robot Body from BTTS*) 2k3 Bishop(alternate BTTS outfit*) OT Krang ( alternate Super Krang getup*) OT Bebop(alternate Private Porknose outfit*) OT Rocksteady (alternate Pirate Outfit from Turtles in time*) Savanti Romero (alternate 2k3 look*) The Unlockable (each character is unlocked when completed with a certain base character or combinations of base characters. They are seperated into 3 tiers, depending on how easy it is to unlock them) tier 1 Nobody (alternate Cop outfit)-complete game with Casey Jones Tokka -complete game with Bebop Rahzar-complete game with Rocksteady Armaggon-complete game with Krang Complete Carnage--complete game with Radical Rat King (alternate OT outfit) -complete game with Bishop Baxter the Fly (alternate human form)-complete game with 2K3 Baxter tier 2 2k3 Miyamoto Usagi (alternate OT outfit)-complete game with Splinter and Fugitoid Shoate(alternate black and Red Kimono)-complete game with Hun and Karai TNM Dragon Lord (alternate action figure outfit)-complete game with Savanti and Foot ninja tier 3 2k3 Hamato Yoshi (alternate Bruce Lee outfit)-complete game with All TMNT Super Shredder (alternate Black outfit)-complete game with all members of the Foot clan, not including the OT characters Manga Turtle Saint- complete game with all base characters phew. That took a long time... longer than I thought it would |
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To elaborate a bit (though you are definitely on the right track): Hothead had his own figure, of course, but it was quite a bit different. Most people only knew him from his toy, and even then, he wasn't exactly a household name. War definitely counts, as the Adventures comics were not exactly well-known at the time (almost nobody I knew as a kid had read them). Same with Armaggon, and perhaps technically, Adventures Wingnut, though I had never thought of him like that. Aska being exclusive to this game definitely makes her obscure as hell, even though she's fondly remembered by those who have played the game. Honestly, I'd put Karai in this category, because at the time, I didn't know who she was, none of my friends did, and hell, you can go back and read some old FAQs/fansites that also had no idea. Ray Fillet wasn't really as much of a wtf character as most because he was a popular figure, but this one is essentially Man Ray so I'll give you that. Sisyphus, like Aska, is a random, out-there exclusive character. Blaze cosplay April is definitely weird as hell but since she's an essential character that everyone knows, it's not as much as the others. Again, I'd put Karai here for being relatively unknown for this time period. Traximus does indeed possibly count as does Mozar, but they were both quite prominent in the series as well as had their own semi-popular action figures. Sleeg was such a random choice that I completely forgot who he was until I saw the episode he debuted in a second time. Monster takes the cake for being probably the most obscure character in a popular fighting game, ever. Gold Shredder might count since he never showed up with that armor in anything else. Utroms themselves are basically unknown to anybody who didn't watch 2K3 or read the Mirage comics, but even most hardcore fans of the 4Kids cartoon didn't have any idea what an Utrominator was, since it only showed up in the background of exposition scenes in one (albeit popular) episode. |
Some really good responses guys! If a game like this were to be made, I would want a bigger roster than 20 characters; too many good ideas!
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Of course, first comes Deliverance Re-Shelled ;) |
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Also, I completely forgot about Armaggon in SNES Tournament Fighters. He really would have been a surprise to most people. Also, the Genesis game was my first introduction to Karai. I was totally expecting Shredder as the final boss so a female Foot Clan leader was a big shock for me. Karai seems so familiar nowadays, it's hard to remember it wasn't always the case! |
Ok, let's see if I can narrow it down to 20. Character version is as either as designed by Ken Mitchroney or a solid anime version (like the promo art for Tournament Fighters SNES)
1-4 are obvious. 5 Ray Fillet 6 Jagwar 7 Dreadmon 8 Wingnut and Screwloose 9 Mondo Gecko 10 Leatherhead (with his Stump Intergalactic Wrestling suit as an alt) 11 Ninjara 12 Karai 13 Casey Jones (resembling himself in the first movie) 14 Miyamoto Usagi 15 Slash 16 Bellybomb 17 Krang-headed Shredder 18 Armaggon 19 Cryin' Houn' 20 Golani Final boss: Maligna Unlockable Uber-boss: Cudley the Cowlick My preferences are... decidedly obvious. |
Have barely read any of the comics, but from television shows and movies I have seen of the ninja turtles, my list would be something like this.....
(the ones you start off with) 1. Leonardo (2K3 version) 2. Rapheal (movie version) 3. Donetello (original toon version) 4. Micheleangelo (Mirage. Not too familar with the mirage comics, but from what I can gather, Mikey seems best here) 5. Master Splinter (2K3) 6. April O'Neil (2007 film) 7. Casey Jones (Movie) (the ones you'll unlock) 8. Shredder (Movie) 9. The Rat King (2K3) 10. Leatherhead (2K3) 11. Krang (Original Toon) 12. Bebop (Original Toon) 13. Rocksteady (Original Toon) 14. Foot Soldier (2K3) 15. Rock Soldier (Original Toon) 16. Purple Dragon Gang Member (Mirage. Again, don't know too much into it, but I think it would be fitting to have one of the first enemies that the ninja turtles kicked major shell on) 17. Karai (2K3) 18. Mona Lisa (Original toon) 19. Venus (the NEXT mutation) 20. Kirby (the 4th never-shot live-action film) |
Its also a trend in TMNT fighting games to have a mostly lackluster roster :( Smash Up is actually a pretty decent game, its exactly what I expected the game to play like, not a s polished but still fun Smash Bros clone with TMNT characters, the problem and backlash was of course the character selection. I think they said Laird didn't allow OT stuff but not sure how much I believe that. They're definitely to blame since they hyped it up as "your favorite characters from the 25 years of the turtles not based on any specific show or movie" etc, had they said "Its based on the 2007 movie" which is what it basically is maybe the backlash wouldn't have been as big. Now since this is a Smash Bros clone that came out after Brawl, I don't see why it can't have at least the 25 characters Melee had, this is after Brawl and that had 36, I wouldn't have minded many clone characters (which in the actual game they are a few that are basically clones already) as long as it meant having more characters, having the 4 turtles be similar if it meant 3 more slots for characters would be a good trade off.. different costumes would be doable but they'd remain the same character models like in the actual game with 2k3 april's costume still being essentially 2k7 april.
I remember doing various lists before the game came out but here is my post-game list. They'd all be generic, non-universe specific versions or amalgam of various versions, this is also a "realistic" list. 1,2,3,4- The Turtles 5 - April (the game needs girl characters) 6 - Casey Jones 7 - Splinter 8 - Shredder 9 - Karai 10 - Foot Soldier 11 - Leatherhead 12 - Ratking 13 - Armaggon 14 - Krang (android body) 15 - Stockman (fly) 16 - Hun 17 - Triceraton 18 - Slash 19 - Rocksteady 20 - Beebop The game didn't get terrible reviews, had they included say the above roster list and I guarantee the game would have sold plenty more. Most of those are pretty much no-brainers. Don't even get me on stages, a cruise ship? wtf, where was inside technodrome, foot lair, triceraton world among tons of possibilities. I know the topic said "personal" roster but like I said I made many of those lists before the game came out. I would have included Dragonlord, Venus, Tokka, Rahzar, more OT mutants, metalhead, mirage only villain (complete carnage?), other archie folk etc. I think a new TMNT fighting game is inevitable but we'll probably get some adventure or beate up games first before they tackle a fighting game again, hopefully whoever develops it gets it right this time, either the Power Stone like engine Mutant Melee or the Smash bros like engine of Smash Up work great for TMNT. |
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(Good) the ancient one The Mystics and the Mystic Turtles Cody W/ Serling Leatherhead (Evil) The Dark Turles Leatherhead Triceratons are a few that came to mind. |
20 Characters:
*Leonardo (Mirage/OT/Mystic Fury Leo) *Donatello (Mirage/OT/Undercover Don) *Raphael (Mirage/OT/Nightwatcher) *Michelangelo (Mirage/OT/Skateboarding Mike) *Splinter (OT/2k3/2k7movie) *Casey Jones (OT/2k7 Movie/Mirage) *April (OT/2k3/Mirage) *Shredder (Mirage/Secret of the Ooze/OT) *Rocksteady (OT/Toy/Pirate *Unlockable "Clone" Tokka) *Bebop (OT/Mutations toy with blue shoes/Pirate *Unlockable "Clone" Rhazar) *Krang (Android body/Battle Damaged android Body/Utrom Shredder *unlockable "clone" Utrominator) *Foot Ninja (OT/2k3/90s Movie/ *Unlockable "clone" Tatsu) *Leatherhead (OT/2k3/Mirage) *Karai (TF/2k3/2k7) Movie *Baxter Stockman (Fly/Robot) *Metalhead/Turtlebot *Hun (Normal/Mutated *"clone" slash) *Rat King (OT/2k3) *Triceraton (Old Toy/2k3/Shogun Triceraton* "clone" Comm.Mozar) *PizzaFace |
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My "Ultimate Roster" would be a laundry list of characters from all over the place, but since we're limiting it to 20....
1. Leo 2. Don 3. Mike 4. Raph 5. Splinter 6. Shredder 7. Casey 8. April 9. Metalhead 10. Karai 11. Foot Elite 12. Tokka 13. Rahzar 14. Bebop 15. Rocksteady 16. Rat King 17. Triceraton 18. Slash 19. Ninjara 20. Krang And of course plenty of downloadable characters later on down the road such as Venus, Savanti Romero, the Dark Turtles, Tatsu and Armaggon. No. God. Damned. Raving. Rabbids. |
Hm, 20... Letsee if I can break this into sorta groups of 4.
the 4 turtles Splinter, April, Casey, Shadow (teenage or older) Shredder, Karai, Bishop, Baxter Rocksteady, Bebop, a Triceraton, an Utrom in exoskeleton Renet, Fugitoid, Usagi, Aska I think an ideal TMNT fighting game would have costume options that basically transformed the character into other incarnations of itself. So like the utrom+exoskeleton could become krang (or probably vice versa), Shredder could be Mirage, or OT, or Chrell, Usagi into Space Usagi, and so on. you'd get a different model/texture, voice, and altered but mostly the same movesets. maybe differnent special moves and so on. obviously not everyone would have the same number of alternates, but it'd be the best way to please everyone, except of course when it comes to which version would be the default. Of course, since we're supposed to say what form we'd want too...I think going from the OT-era toy line might be the best compromise. Most of my picks have had toys, and the ones that haven't could get a "playmates style" redesign as their default perhaps. although I do prefer the mirage-style Baxter, personally. Of course this is all hyper-theoretical anyway. |
Mine would be based around the comics.
Standard Characters The Turtles Splinter The Rat King Leatherhead The Shredder Casey Jones Triceraton Karai Baxter Stockman Savanti Romero Renet Unlockables Foot Soldier Shredder Elite Blood Sucker Mr. Kirby Shadow DLC Image versions of standard characters Pimiko Cerebus Officer Dragon |
1-4: These should be obvious
5: Splinter 6: Shredder 7: April 8-9: Bebop and Rocksteady 10: Krang 11: Casey 12: Baxter 13: Leatherhead 14: Karai 15: Rat King Unlockable 16: Ninjara 17: Venus 18: Mona Lisa 19: Mondo Gecko 20: Lord Dregg 21: Dogpound 22: Fishface 23: Tokka and Rahzar 24: Groundchuck and Dirtbag 25: Ray Fillet 26: Armaggon 27: Bishop 28: Quarry 29: Oyuki Guests 30: Usaji 31: Flaming Carrot 32: Svage Dragon 33: Cerebus 34: Marshall Moo Montana 35: Sonic the Hedgehog |
Alright, fun thread!
Ok here we go. I'm going to asume this will be a Smash Up 2 roster. STARTING ROSTER -Leonardo -Michelangelo -Raphael -Donatello -Splinter -April -Casey UNLOCKABLES -Shredder -Bebop -Rocksteady -Leatherhead -Metalhead -Baxter Scientist -The Rat King -Karai -Krang (Android) -Venus -Slash -Usagi Yojinbo -Triceraton |
I'd want to see a good vs evil battle to end all battles!
Good Guys 1. Leonardo 2.Donatello 3.Raphael 4. Michelangelo 5. Master Splinter 6. Hamato Yoshi 7. April O' Neil 8. Casey Jones 9. Cerebus 10. Usagi Yojimbo Villains 1. Shredder 2. Krang 3. Bebop 4. Rocksteady 5. Triceraton 6. Tatsu 7. Lord Dregg 8. Rat King 9. Don Turtelli 10. Antrax |
Something that TMNT:Smash Up could have been...
Roster: Mike Raph Leo Don Splinter Casey Jones Usagi Genhis Frog Fugitiod Traximus Shredder Krang Bebop Rocksteady Rat King Leatherhead Slash Agent Bishop Tatsu Armaggon Unlockables: Mondo Gecko General Tragg Zandramon Baxter Stockman in robotic armor |
Only the 4 turtles,Splinter,Casey,Shredder,Footsoldier,Bebop and Rocksteady are available to play from the start and only have their first listed skins.
Everyone else and all additional skins are unlocks. 1-4. The OT Turtles with mirage/trenchcoat skins 5. OT Splinter with mirage/2K3 skins 6. OT Shredder with mirage/2K3 skins 7.OT Footsoldier with mirage/elite skins 8.OT Casey with mirage/2K3 skins 9.OT Krang Android with an utrom exo skin 10.OT Rocksteady with playmates/human skins 11.OT Bebop with Private Porknose/human skins 12.OT Baxter Fly with 2K3 playmates robot skin 13.Playmates Ace Duck with Archie wrestling skin 14.OT Slash with Playmates skin 15.Playmates Tokka with SOTO skin 16.Playmates Rahzar with SOTO skin 17.OT Rat King with Playmates Skin 18.OT Leatherhead with 2K3 skin 19.OT General Traag with Playmates skin 20.Playmates Usagi with 2K3 skin Levels: Sewers Street Outside Technodrome Technodrome Control Room Subway Channel 6 Building Sewer Lair Swamp Alt Street Warehouse |
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Aska HotHead Rocksteady Bebop Rahzar Tokka Karai Leatherhead Sisyphys Traag Baxter Neutrinos Wingnut Krang Leo Raph Mikey Don Rat King Ray Fillet Metalhead Mondo Gecko Fugitoid Dirtbag Groundchuck April Casey Splinter Slash Shredder Chrome Dome Triceraton Usagi War |
If I'd have the rights and resources to produce a TMNT fighter, the visual style would be fully based on Jim Lawson's drawing, every character would be in his style, and in-game that would be reached via stylized cell shade on 3D models, which ones move on a 2D plane. (like Street Fighter IV)
Roster would be like: 01.) Leonardo 02.) Michelangelo 03.) Raphael 04.) Donatello 05.) Casey (mirage) 06.) Karai (mirage) 07.) Shredder (idw) 08.) Krang (ot) 09.) Baxter Stockman (mirage v2) 10.) Armaggon (archie) 11.) Radical (mirage) 12.) Man-Ray (archie) 13.) Leatherhead (2k3) 14.) Slash (archie) 15.) Renet (mirage) 16.) Rocksteady (ot) (+Bebop jumping in for special moves) 17.) Wingnut (+Screwloose) (archie) 18.) Bishop (2k3) 19.) Hun (2k3) 20.) Nobody (mirage) ++BONUS: GIANT IRMA :lol: No Splinter or April, and all of them concepted by Jim Lawson, of course. :tsmile: Quote:
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Gonna go beyond 20 characters here. Also, this has it's own design.
Good Leo Raph Donnie Mikey Splinter April Casey Bad Shredder Foot Ninja Foot Elite Krang w/android body Kraang Droid (from Nick) Ch'rell (in Shredder suit, but different from Shredder) Unlockable good Leatherhead Fugitoid Metalhead Wingnut w/Screwloose Ray Fillet Renet Venus Silver Sentry Mortu (Utrominator suit) Ninjara Mutagen Man Usagi Cerebus Flaming Carrot Unlockable bad Dogpound Fishface Bebop Rocksteady Hun w/Purple Dragons Dregg Karai Baxter Stockman Old Hob Slash Alopex Savanti Romero 39 characters. |
I'm going with a kind of updated Tournament fighters. Especially for starter turtles. Change up Shredder to be closer to OT to start off. Have DLC costume packs like SSF4. They could be like a mirage pack and have a few different artists takes on each turtle and Casey or whoever. Like have a Lawson stule for everybody he's done before a Laird style whoever. It can be Mirage oack 1. have a number 2 with others and so forth. Unlockable costumes could be movie, OT and 4kids versions. I'd add in Splinter as a fighter and have Rat King and Karai as playable.
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Ahhh! I was so disappointed in Smash Up. Not that it was terrible, but it wasn't what I had built my hopes up. I love the SSB franchise, though was also kind of disappointed with Brawl a bit, so I was hoping that this game would fill the void. Sadly, it did not...
My roster: Mikey Rabbid Leo Rabbid Raph Rabbid Don Rabbid... ...J/k Real Roster: Leo, Don, Raph, Mike, Splinter, April, Casey Unlockables: Shredder, Leatherhead, Rat King, Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, Karai, Alopex, Fugitoid, Slash, Neutrino, Triceraton, Bishop, Hun, Metalhead, Old Hob, Baxter Stockman w/Mousers Nothing too surprising, but I feel like I got the basics of most universes. |
If I "slashed" the character's incarnation, it means I am undecided on one or the other so would probably like a mix up of the two.
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