Judith Hoag: original script "more mystical"?
 

In one of Rutger's interviews, Judith Hoag revealed that the original script was "more mystical".

Does anyone know if this version of the script has been released? And if so, what exactly she's referring to? Are there additional scenes, different dialog, different description, what? I know some people have copies of (what I'm guessing is) the shooting script, and it has neat things left out like the farm scene, but I've never heard of the additional mystical stuff.

Quote:
"There was a more mystical through-line in the original script – (think Luke Skywalker and The Force). The Turtles were on a spiritual quest lead by their Master Splinter. It added dimension to the story and made it more appealing to people of all ages"

Source: http://members.ziggo.nl/rutgergret/h...interview.html

she was referring to the turtles learning their "final lesson in becoming ninjas" that was referenced a few times in the theatrical cut. it's been a while since i've read the script, but i'm pretty sure most of the deleted stuff is from the farm portion. it was planned to show all four turtles dealing with splinter's kidnapping in their own way (such as mikey nearly bringing down the barn in a violent fit while training alone), while continuing their ninja training. you know the shots of the turtles training with their bandanas turned sideways, blocking their vision? that's it. a lot of the deleted stuff was all compiled into the montage. they all pretty much nail that, then have their "star wars" vision of splinter over the campfire.

personally, as it was in the script, i feel it would have made for a better film. definitely a more well-rounded with the story and character development/arc. does anyone know if steve barron has commented on the changes? was it barron or the producers that cut the material?

Man that's awesome he got to do an interview with her...I am jealous lol!

Thanks Raphfan, I was pretty excited to get in touch with her! She my main hero of all the human actors in the movie (and in my opinion the best and most pretty looking April)
She was happy doing the interview and of course the signed photos were awesome! I still have some contact with her.

I should try and do an interview again with someone. Any requests :P

Any word on whether much of this was filmed? If so, that would make my desire for a director's cut of the film even stronger.

Lloyd Goldfine head writer of the 2K3 show.

nice read :)

whos rutger anyway?

"Raph" aka, the autograph guy. Scroll up, you'll see him right in this very topic! :P

Great interview! She was the best April.

Not to be mean, but i always wondered why they could not find a cuter actress to play that part..

Judith Hoag was only about 22 when she played April in the first movie. I think she's actually gotten prettier with age.

i would agree with that..she looked like a 35 year old

I think Paige Turco is a beautiful actress but I'd rather had two more movies with Judith Hoag, shes my fav April even if shes know drop dead gorgeous she is still pretty, and I'd have to agree with you guys that shes gotten prettier with age.

Tru Dat!!!

Wow :teek: that was cold! lol

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Not sure if you took this to mean I was trying to denigrate Hoag's appearance in her youth, but I wasn't trying to say something mean. It's just that sometimes people get more photogenic as they age. Most kids my age never thought she was particularly good looking back in the day, but I definitely think she looks great now.

Pretty sure that quote was meant to be LeoFan, oldguywinters... ^_^

as far as i know, everything in the shooting script was filmed. there are little clips of footage from some of the cut scenes in the training montage.

it's a shame that the director's cut has never been released... or leaked.

Cool interview, and yes, she's the best April we ever have (live action wise):)

Love her so much.

I prefer Paige Turco myself.

At first I was thinking there would be a crossover with Mystic Pizza.:tgrin:

Whoa, I didn't recognize Judith Hoag in the new Nightmare on Elm Street.

Thanks guys I feel honored :D

When I was younger I preferred Paige over Judith, I think it was because I thought she was prettier. Judith has grown on me over the years though.

I have yet to see her in the movie, she's listed as a Resident and uncredited on IMDB. What scene is she in?

i haven't seen the film, but she's in the trailer... the nurse that is wearing freddy's glove and flashes it in front of the girl's (nancy?) face.

Hm, same here, I think. To a point where I much prefer Judith over Paige.

I've always prefered Judith over paige, I just like Judith's portrayal better, I thought her April was alot more relaxed than Paige's.

You're right about that. I always thought Paige looked too made-up as well.

Sitting back and thinking about it, I almost can even imagine Judith playing in the 2nd or 3rd movies since they were so much more goofy. She was perfect for the darker 1st movie though, maybe it worked out for the best how it turned out.

The only thing darker about the first movie was how they lit and shot it. The same goofy humor is there, with the same goofy music cues. It's just covered up by the way it was filmed and a few choice curse words. I'll admit the other films have less fights with weapons but there's actually more fights in the 2nd movie then the first.

I had a hard time taking anything serious in the 2nd movie, which is fine I liked all 3 live action ones in there own way, the first one just seemed much more serious overall, maybe thats just me though. :tsmile:

Here's a great interview/feature on Judith's role as April that I scanned from an old Starlog Magazine:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...arlog154_3.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...rlog154_17.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...rlog154_18.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...rlog154_19.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...rlog154_44.jpg

It was more serious but it's not as dark and adult as people like to say it is. Most of the major differences between the first and 2nd movie are aesthetic. There's still slapstick humor, corny jokes, and horrid 90's pop music in the first film. The same material is there just different execution, and less Vanilla Ice.

The turtles not even included I felt the Foot in general, Tatsu, Shredder, and April were more serious in the first movie as opposed to #2. Thats not a knock on any other TMNT movies, the roles were just different. Thats why on second thought I like Judith being in the first where as Im cool she wasnt in the 2nd because I like her as a more serious April as opposed to how they wanted April to act after that. Tokka and Rahzar were both pretty silly, mainly because they were babies and had a baby mentality. I dont think theres anything wrong with viewing the first movie as darker and more serious because I feel it is.

that was a nice interview, thank you!