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chad 03-03-2011 05:41 PM

Do you think There might be Time Machines in The Future
 
I've always asked myself this question. Do you think that may there is a chance that there any may be in the future. That is if scientists try to figure someout,

Turo602 03-03-2011 05:47 PM

What kind of time travel are you talking about? Going to the past like from 2011 to the 1800s/creating a paradox? Going back and getting younger or older as you go? Rewinding everything with you? Going back days but not really affecting time it self? Which one?

chad 03-03-2011 05:57 PM

I don't know The One where you go back in time and it creates a paradox.

Turo602 03-03-2011 06:00 PM

Well then that's physically impossible. You can't go back in time and be the same age. You will go as far back as your age lets you.

chad 03-03-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 825926)
Well then that's physically impossible. You can't go back in time and be the same age. You will go as far back as your age lets you.

I guess I meant the one where you can go back in time and sometimes it can end up changing certain events

Powder 03-03-2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 825919)
What kind of time travel are you talking about? Going to the past like from 2011 to the 1800s/creating a paradox? Going back and getting younger or older as you go? Rewinding everything with you? Going back days but not really affecting time it self? Which one?

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 825926)
Well then that's physically impossible. You can't go back in time and be the same age. You will go as far back as your age lets you.

Don't be so difficult. Jesus Christ.

For the sake of simplicity, and to receive simple answers, let's say he's referring to the same kind of travel seen in "Back To The Future".

chad 03-03-2011 06:05 PM

Yeah, I was kind of referring to the kind of time travel

Turo602 03-03-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 825928)
Don't be so difficult. Jesus Christ.

For the sake of simplicity, and to receive simple answers, let's say he's referring to the same kind of travel seen in "Back To The Future".

I take time travel serious. According to me it's impossible unless we're talking about going backwards a few days without actually manipulating time itself. In fact, what is time? We don't know. We can't see it or touch it or do anything with it. We created time. Who says every June is my birthday? I certainly don't see myself grow every June or feel different It just happens.

Sorry for going overboard. I was actually going to make a thread regarding time travel being possible or not.

Roseangelo 03-03-2011 06:10 PM

AFAIK the current theories on time travel (based on string theory) would only allow you to travel forward in time, not backwards.

TheCanadiandrome 03-03-2011 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 825932)
AFAIK the current theories on time travel (based on string theory) would only allow you to travel forward in time, not backwards.

damn! there goes my hopes of a TARDIS! :P :D

Turo602 03-03-2011 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 825932)
AFAIK the current theories on time travel (based on string theory) would only allow you to travel forward in time, not backwards.

Going forward could be possible if it's in the way that I'm talking about as just skipping days by the Earth's movement without messing with time itself.

Cure 03-03-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 825931)
I take time travel serious. According to me it's impossible unless we're talking about going backwards a few days without actually manipulating time itself. In fact, what is time? We don't know. We can't see it or touch it or do anything with it. We created time. Who says every June is my birthday? I certainly don't see myself grow every June or feel different It just happens.

Sorry for going overboard. I was actually going to make a thread regarding time travel being possible.

Hahahaha, according to you. Oh God. Oh my God. You went there. Look at the time travel expert. Hahaha.

Brodie 03-03-2011 06:23 PM

Reading the early parts of this thread is like watching the mentally deficient battle wits.


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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 825931)
I take time travel serious. According to me ....

That's goddamn hysterical.

chad 03-03-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tmnt_canadian (Post 825935)
damn! There goes my hopes of a tardis! :p :d

ha ha ha ha

Turo602 03-03-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 825941)
Hahahaha, according to you. Oh God. Oh my God. You went there. Look at the time travel expert. Hahaha.

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 825942)
Reading the early parts of this thread is like watching the mentally deficient battle wits.




That's goddamn hysterical.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Look at the smart asses with nothing to contribute.

Brodie 03-03-2011 06:30 PM

True enough, but Turo, IS THIS YOU?!


Turo602 03-03-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 825951)
True enough, but Turo, IS THIS YOU?!


Nice time travel theory. Oh wait, you're a troll.

By the way, did you think that up yourself? Because that was lame. And yeah, sure it's me.

Cure 03-03-2011 06:41 PM

OK, lemme go about this another way. Turo, do you honestly think that stating YOURSELF as a source for something you have no way of knowing anything about DOESN'T make you look idiotic? Look at Rose, she's talking about the string theory; you're talking about TURO THEORY.

Turo602 03-03-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 825954)
OK, lemme go about this another way. Turo, do you honestly think that stating YOURSELF as a source for something you have no way of knowing anything about DOESN'T make you look idiotic? Look at Rose, she's talking about the string theory; you're talking about TURO THEORY.

So am I not allowed to have my own theory? I have my own thoughts on time travel. I still think all the theory's I've heard are still impossible. So yes, ACCORDING TO ME. It's coming from my own mouth.

Brodie 03-03-2011 06:49 PM

Fine, fine. Lets discuss time travel.

While I think it's pretty lame you shoot down the ideas or possibilities of different forms of time travel, or simply say "NOT POSSIBLE, ACCORDIN' TO ME." I think raising the point of actually questioning time is legitimate. It is, in fact, a man-made concept.

A really amazing book on the subject (as well as bringing up far more in depth and downright intruiging/terrifying concepts of time and time's existence), is Einstein's Dreams by Alan Lightman. Each chapter explores time, and its movement, or existence, or -it- as a concept/bieng/tangibility, in very different ways.

And, if you really want to screw your head up a bit, whilst considering time, and time travel? Consider the possibilities/existence of Quantum theory/mechanics. That's always fun.

Jester 03-03-2011 06:53 PM

If there is Doc Brown type time travel, then wouldn't there be time machines in the past, present and future? Sorry, had to go there.

Turo602 03-03-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 825957)
Fine, fine. Lets discuss time travel.

While I think it's pretty lame you shoot down the ideas or possibilities of different forms of time travel, or simply say "NOT POSSIBLE, ACCORDIN' TO ME." I think raising the point of actually questioning time is legitimate. It is, in fact, a man-made concept.

A really amazing book on the subject (as well as bringing up far more in depth and downright intruiging/terrifying concepts of time and time's existence), is Einstein's Dreams by Alan Lightman. Each chapter explores time, and its movement, or existence, or -it- as a concept/bieng/tangibility, in very different ways.

And, if you really want to screw your head up a bit, whilst considering time, and time travel? Consider the possibilities/existence of Quantum theory/mechanics. That's always fun.

Well I'm not really shooting them down to be an ass and say my way is right. I just don't think time travel is realistic. How can we make theory's of time travel without really understanding time itself? We don't even know how far back time goes. I just find time travel interesting. Something I'd like to know a whole lot more about. If you believe in time travel, as in people from the future coming to our time, wouldn't you assume we will be living with people from the future or see history get altered in some way?

Brodie 03-03-2011 07:04 PM

That...has nothing to do with what I said. You read the first thing I said, then nothing else.

Turo602 03-03-2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 825965)
That...has nothing to do with what I said. You read the first thing I said, then nothing else.

Sure whatever. The second and third part had no real response to it other then it being your thoughts on the book. I sures hell haven't read it so how can we possibly geek up and have a conversation about it? That book also doesn't answer my question. It's just more talk.

chad 03-03-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 825957)
Fine, fine. Lets discuss time travel.

While I think it's pretty lame you shoot down the ideas or possibilities of different forms of time travel, or simply say "NOT POSSIBLE, ACCORDIN' TO ME." I think raising the point of actually questioning time is legitimate. It is, in fact, a man-made concept.

A really amazing book on the subject (as well as bringing up far more in depth and downright intruiging/terrifying concepts of time and time's existence), is Einstein's Dreams by Alan Lightman. Each chapter explores time, and its movement, or existence, or -it- as a concept/bieng/tangibility, in very different ways.

And, if you really want to screw your head up a bit, whilst considering time, and time travel? Consider the possibilities/existence of Quantum theory/mechanics. That's always fun.


I've read Einstien Dreams I was Fasinated by the book.

Candy Kappa 03-03-2011 07:26 PM

Time Travel is a fun subject, now I doubt you can time travel back in time and interact with the past. Perhaps go back and experience the past like a recording.

chad 03-03-2011 07:47 PM

That is a pretty cool Idea. I think I would view my life from the past as a recording

TheCanadiandrome 03-03-2011 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 825958)
If there is Doc Brown type time travel, then wouldn't there be time machines in the past, present and future? Sorry, had to go there.

Marty McFly: Wait a minute, Doc. Ah... Are you telling me that you built a time machine... out of a DeLorean?

Dr. Emmett Brown: The way I see it, if you're gonna build a time machine into a car, why not do it with some style?

Dr. Emmett Brown: If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits eighty-eight miles per hour... you're gonna see some serious ****.

deadpoolRKO 03-04-2011 08:23 AM

Time travel is not impossible.

I time travel forward at regular speed all the time.

Sometimes when my eyes are closed I time travel forward 8-10 hours in what seems to be about 2 seconds

Voltron 03-04-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 825957)
Fine, fine. Lets discuss time travel.

While I think it's pretty lame you shoot down the ideas or possibilities of different forms of time travel, or simply say "NOT POSSIBLE, ACCORDIN' TO ME." I think raising the point of actually questioning time is legitimate. It is, in fact, a man-made concept.

A really amazing book on the subject (as well as bringing up far more in depth and downright intruiging/terrifying concepts of time and time's existence), is Einstein's Dreams by Alan Lightman. Each chapter explores time, and its movement, or existence, or -it- as a concept/bieng/tangibility, in very different ways.

And, if you really want to screw your head up a bit, whilst considering time, and time travel? Consider the possibilities/existence of Quantum theory/mechanics. That's always fun.

WHY would you even entertain him? You might as well argue with a rock.

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Originally Posted by Turo
I take time travel serious. According to me ....

Not going to lie, after I read this I laughed so hard that I had to take a walk.

The only people who should be serious about time travel are physicists and 80's cartoon characters.

Turo602 03-04-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Voltron (Post 826111)
WHY would you even entertain him? You might as well argue with a rock.



Not going to lie, after I read this I laughed so hard that I had to take a walk.

The only people who should be serious about time travel are physicists and 80's cartoon characters.

Because he has nothing better to do then be an ass. I knew his little trick, trying to be smart like if I wouldn't understand it. Which by the way I did.

And also, it's according to me, I have my own thoughts and beliefs. I can write you pages and pages of why I think time travel is not possible.

Roseangelo 03-04-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 826155)
And also, it's according to me, I have my own thoughts and beliefs. I can write you pages and pages of why I think time travel is not possible.

I can write pages and pages about why I think I should be a billionaire. And those pages would be just as worthless as your thoughts on time travel. Doesn't mean you can't have those thoughts, but you shouldn't be waving them around as if they are scientifically proven facts worthy of backing up a thesis.

Brodie 03-04-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 826155)
Because he has nothing better to do then be an ass. I knew his little trick, trying to be smart like if I wouldn't understand it. Which by the way I did.

I was actually going along with your ideas on questioning 'time,' but you're too paranoid to accept that I was actually trying to converse on the subject with you.

Then you blew it off, which just made it seem like you didn't understand what I was saying.

Not my intention, but it happened.

Turo602 03-04-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 826163)
I can write pages and pages about why I think I should be a billionaire. And those pages would be just as worthless as your thoughts on time travel. Doesn't mean you can't have those thoughts, but you shouldn't be waving them around as if they are scientifically proven facts worthy of backing up a thesis.

How am I waving them as facts? I have the right to state my opinions without always stating "in my opinion". Everyone believes what they want to. I'm not saying "no you are wrong dumbass I'm right" because there is no real answer.

And Brodie, sorry then. But I already explained why, but you just have the reputation of always f*cking with me. So my mistake.

Hannah 03-04-2011 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 826181)
How am I waving them as facts? I have the right to state my opinions without always stating "in my opinion". Everyone believes what they want to. I'm not saying "no you are wrong dumbass I'm right" because there is no real answer.

The point is that you've never ACTUALLY studied anything related to time travel. If you had a legitimate, educated opinion on the matter, you would need to cite your sources. You can't just decide whether or not it's possible. The correct way to have stated your opinion would have been to say "I don't think it's possible, and here is why- example A, example B, example C." Instead, what you said came across as "It's NOT possible, because I said so."

Besides, you've already contradicted yourself by saying time travel is something you'd like to learn more about. In your first few posts you seemed determined that you knew exactly how time travel worked and that it was, in fact, not possible- according to you, of course.

Roseangelo 03-04-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 826181)
How am I waving them as facts? I have the right to state my opinions without always stating "in my opinion". Everyone believes what they want to. I'm not saying "no you are wrong dumbass I'm right" because there is no real answer.

Witness...

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Originally Posted by chad (Post 825924)
I don't know The One where you go back in time and it creates a paradox.

To which you replied:

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 825926)
Well then that's physically impossible. You can't go back in time and be the same age. You will go as far back as your age lets you.

Without quoting any sources, and then following up with:

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 825931)
I take time travel serious. According to me it's impossible unless we're talking about going backwards a few days without actually manipulating time itself.

"According to me" comes off as if you are stating yourself as a source, not that you're expressing an opinion. If you would be willing to revise your statements as, "In my personal opinion not based on any particular scientific fact," perhaps we could drop this technicality and move on with the topic at hand. Unless you have scientific facts, in which case you should provide them.

discordiatookie 03-04-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by deadpoolRKO (Post 826110)
Time travel is not impossible.

I time travel forward at regular speed all the time.

Sometimes when my eyes are closed I time travel forward 8-10 hours in what seems to be about 2 seconds

Well, I came into this thread about to say:

"I travel forward in time all the time! I'm doing it right now!

And when I go to bed, I wake up and its EIGHT HOURS LATER!"

Seems to me that you've read my answer, reworded it, gone back in time and posted it before I could. :teek:

Turo602 03-05-2011 01:56 AM

Well you got me Rose.:(

And I would have gotten away with it to if it weren't for those meddling teenagers.:P

But I still have a question. how could there even be scientific facts on time travel if it's still unknown? All it is is theory's. They can't actually prove it without actually going in time.:-?

Roseangelo 03-05-2011 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 826274)
But I still have a question. how could there even be scientific facts on time travel if it's still unknown? All it is is theory's. They can't actually prove it without actually going in time.:-?

You can use elements of scientific facts to form a theory.

sdp 03-05-2011 02:45 AM

Most inventions that have changed life were made based on scientific theories, not scientific fact, and they're still considered theories. They are still theories because they can not be proven as fact using the Scientific Method, however many are treated as facts.

Oh and based on what I've read, timetravel is indeed possible, however not like BTTF and its definitely not going to happen in our lifetime or anytime in the not so near future. For anyone interested to learn more and want an easy to understand version I recommend books by Michio Kaku, he can go a little too sci-fiish but he's great at what he does.


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