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Ninja Turtles 25 Years 03-04-2011 02:30 AM

Resident Evil
 
My favorite gaming series is Resident Evil, plus Tomb Raider. I remember being 14 playing Resident Evil Director's Cut and Playstation for the very first time and I have to say, for a guy who was into Genesis and SNES at the time, it was incredible that game and system. I was scared of the eerieness of the mansion for a long while, especially when I had a cruel unwelcoming surprise in a worst way with the Giant Spiders in the Guardhouse. Now I'm OK with the lastest few Capcom released (RE 4, 5), but I wish they had made Resident Evil more like their first few when it was scary, where I gave you that feeling like something was really there, rather than it being like a military type game. I'm not knocking Call of Duty, but Resident Evil isn't suppose to be like a war movie. As much as I love Resident Evil, I did have my mixed feelings with the Survivor and Outbreak spin off series of the Resident Evil Universe.

peterh01 03-04-2011 05:49 AM

Yes! Resident Evil... the BEST Survivor Horror game series & Silent Hill... the Best Psychological Horror Game Series! I love them! :)

Turo602 03-04-2011 03:27 PM

I'm a huge Resident Evil fan! Is anyone else excited for Mercenaries 3D and Revelations?

Ninja Turtles 25 Years 03-04-2011 04:26 PM

I'd be excited if 3D Mercenary, and Revelations were on a PS3 or Wii instead of a hand held. I perfer to play my games on my 42" HD TV plasma over a dinky little carry around toy.

Turo602 03-04-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles 25 Years (Post 826171)
I'd be excited if 3D Mercenary, and Revelations were on a PS3 or Wii instead of a hand held. I perfer to play my games on my 42" HD TV plasma over a dinky little carry around toy.

I see nothing wrong with that, but then what would be the point of having portable gaming systems? To have games you'd rather see on the big screen. I'm sure Capcom can top that with their next RE game on the 360/PS3 if they make one. But these games look really impressive right now.

The Stryker 03-04-2011 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles 25 Years (Post 826171)
I'd be excited if 3D Mercenary, and Revelations were on a PS3 or Wii instead of a hand held. I perfer to play my games on my 42" HD TV plasma over a dinky little carry around toy.

You mean a portable gaming device? The things that revolutionized gaming and make tons of bank for nintendo every year without fail?

Dinky little toy. Really now.

Ninja Turtles 25 Years 03-04-2011 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 826226)
You mean a portable gaming device? The things that revolutionized gaming and make tons of bank for nintendo every year without fail?

Dinky little toy. Really now.

I really do not care about that. I'm saying I perfer to play my games on a big screen HDTV in 5.1 surround sound instead of carrying one of those hand-helds with me, where I tune out the world around me. Plus I think hand held games are for those who are sickly obsessed with games, like they have to have it where ever they go rather than being serious about the real world. I'm not knocking video games and computers, but you really don't have to carry those zombie-creating machines where ever you go.

Turo602 03-05-2011 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles 25 Years (Post 826253)
I really do not care about that. I'm saying I perfer to play my games on a big screen HDTV in 5.1 surround sound instead of carrying one of those hand-helds with me, where I tune out the world around me. Plus I think hand held games are for those who are sickly obsessed with games, like they have to have it where ever they go rather than being serious about the real world. I'm not knocking video games and computers, but you really don't have to carry those zombie-creating machines where ever you go.

Well it's only zombie creating if you let it be. I like to take hand helds on the go with me when I travel or just to chill in the house and enjoy the game at night in my bed. I also prefer playing games on a big screen but it doesn't hurt to have a good library of quality games on a portable for whatever the reason you use or have a portable for. I remember when I was young all I had was the Gameboy SP and DS while my brothers had everything else. Until I got my first console the DS just started fading away slowly.

As for Resident Evil, I'm really excited for Mercenaries 3D. Having Chris and Leon in one game just makes me happy. I've also heard that they might put older environments from early RE games into it. I'm hoping for Raccoon City with Nemesis as the boss. I'm also wondering how the character customization thing works. I'm also really excited about Revelations. I hope Chris is playable, and I love how they're going back into the roots of Resident Evil although personally I would love to see a co-op, survival horror, puzzle solving, back tracking, scary, action packed Resident Evil game with zombies. I was also a little disappointed to know that Resident Evil 5 got rid of the type writer. I seriously hope it's in Revelations.

Samhain 03-05-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles 25 Years (Post 826253)
I really do not care about that. I'm saying I perfer to play my games on a big screen HDTV in 5.1 surround sound instead of carrying one of those hand-helds with me, where I tune out the world around me. Plus I think hand held games are for those who are sickly obsessed with games, like they have to have it where ever they go rather than being serious about the real world. I'm not knocking video games and computers, but you really don't have to carry those zombie-creating machines where ever you go.

Uh, you do realize that alot of people dont even take their handheld systems out on the go. I dont. I mainly have a DS for Pokemon and a few of other exclusive titles. The only time I take it on the ''go'' is when Im going on a trip somewhere. Dont knock something that has sold that many units worldwide. Makes you look a little bit ignorant calling it ''dinky''. Just sayin.

Brodie 03-05-2011 04:46 PM

Also, considering the size of the XL...isn't really "dinky"...Obtrusive, maybe.

Cure 03-05-2011 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles 25 Years (Post 826253)
I really do not care about that. I'm saying I perfer to play my games on a big screen HDTV in 5.1 surround sound instead of carrying one of those hand-helds with me, where I tune out the world around me. Plus I think hand held games are for those who are sickly obsessed with games, like they have to have it where ever they go rather than being serious about the real world. I'm not knocking video games and computers, but you really don't have to carry those zombie-creating machines where ever you go.

Get out, you and your stupid views on handhelds aren't welcome here.

Loco 03-06-2011 04:41 AM

I'm a huge R.E Fan since R.E 2 came out on playstation ,I finished R.E 2, 3, 4, 5. never beated the first, too ugly and oldy compare to the second.
now I miss Resident Evil 2 again and I wish I could play it theses days but the price's now crazy for a good condition one, Claire and Leon were just awesome in Raccon , game of the 90's for sure.

JakeSully 03-19-2011 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles 25 Years (Post 826075)
My favorite gaming series is Resident Evil, plus Tomb Raider. I remember being 14 playing Resident Evil Director's Cut and Playstation for the very first time and I have to say, for a guy who was into Genesis and SNES at the time, it was incredible that game and system. I was scared of the eerieness of the mansion for a long while, especially when I had a cruel unwelcoming surprise in a worst way with the Giant Spiders in the Guardhouse. Now I'm OK with the lastest few Capcom released (RE 4, 5), but I wish they had made Resident Evil more like their first few when it was scary, where I gave you that feeling like something was really there, rather than it being like a military type game. I'm not knocking Call of Duty, but Resident Evil isn't suppose to be like a war movie. As much as I love Resident Evil, I did have my mixed feelings with the Survivor and Outbreak spin off series of the Resident Evil Universe.

Same story, i grew up with this series since i was 15 when i got my PS1 for christmas with this game and fell in love with the series. I also love Resident Evils 4 and 5 for being awesome and refreshing. I became a fan.

Ninja Turtles 25 Years 03-20-2011 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 826393)
Get out, you and your stupid views on handhelds aren't welcome here.

No it's your nasty attitude on everything that's unwelcoming! So you get out you JERK!!! You're the one who is stupid! And I've read some of the crap you say on this site, and I will say YOU are the stupid person who is real piece of work. And you know what? I hope your crummy hand held games, your facebook, twitter, myspace, and your nasty pie hole mouth became the end of you, and some day you'll realize YOU are the one with stupid views on things!

愛 03-20-2011 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles 25 Years (Post 830426)
No it's your nasty attitude on everything that's unwelcoming! So you get out you JERK!!! You're the one who is stupid! And I've read some of the crap you say on this site, and I will say YOU are the stupid person who is real piece of work. And you know what? I hope your crummy hand held games, your facebook, twitter, myspace, and your nasty pie hole mouth became the end of you, and some day you'll realize YOU are the one with stupid views on things!

You must be new around here. And to the internet, for that matter. :lol:

Candy Kappa 03-20-2011 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles 25 Years (Post 830426)
No it's your nasty attitude on everything that's unwelcoming! So you get out you JERK!!! You're the one who is stupid! And I've read some of the crap you say on this site, and I will say YOU are the stupid person who is real piece of work. And you know what? I hope your crummy hand held games, your facebook, twitter, myspace, and your nasty pie hole mouth became the end of you, and some day you'll realize YOU are the one with stupid views on things!

welcome to the video game section

Cure 03-20-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles 25 Years (Post 830426)
No it's your nasty attitude on everything that's unwelcoming! So you get out you JERK!!! You're the one who is stupid! And I've read some of the crap you say on this site, and I will say YOU are the stupid person who is real piece of work. And you know what? I hope your crummy hand held games, your facebook, twitter, myspace, and your nasty pie hole mouth became the end of you, and some day you'll realize YOU are the one with stupid views on things!

Hahahaha, oh my. You're welcome, everyone.

PizzaPower 03-20-2011 06:15 PM

wow did i stumble on a argument or what, any been a fan od RE since the the first game, the movies are ok but they really dont do the game justice.

The Stryker 03-21-2011 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles 25 Years (Post 830426)
And you know what? I hope your crummy hand held games, your facebook, twitter, myspace, and your nasty pie hole mouth became the end of you

Ok. What does this even mean? Is he gonna get cancer from his facebook account?

sdp 03-21-2011 12:41 AM

Resident Evil and Tomb Raider have actually aged pretty terribly, TR a lot more than RE but still do not replay them unless your nostalgia goggles are pretty big, and especially don't play them in a 42" plasma.

Anyways Resident Evil on a handheld has actually worked alright, not those Tiger RE games but RE Gaiden for the GBC was surprisingly good when it came out. It was a GBC exclusive and out near the end of the systems life not to mention a RE game on the GB so it did not sell well at all but I actually owned it and it did a pretty good job in making it scary, it wasn't even developed by capcom. The DS enhanced port of the first RE also felt scarier playing through it than actually playing it on the PS1. I don't know you kinda get into the game with portables, and portables are great don't diss them, I'll agree that the best handheld games are games designed to be played on a handheld and not just "lets make that console game portable".

I was a fan of RE, still am but not as much, Capcom has really done the franchise a disservice for a long time now, I even have problems with RE4, great action game but its not RE. But thats Capcom in a nutshell, they always make amazing franchises and beat them to the ground and keep beating on them without actually realizing.

And I know this is about the games but what the hey, I like the first RE movie, hated the second, liked the third, haven't seen the fourth.

And since you mention TR, the games were good for the time but aged terribly and quickly. The reboot was awesome, too bad they are rebooting it again which looks terrible and goes to show everything that is wrong with the VG industry today. ugh. They should look at Lara from the original games, a cel shaded Lara makes more sense than her new design.

Turo602 03-21-2011 11:15 AM

I think the best Resident Evil games are on the consoles. Resident Evil 2 is what introduced me to Resident Evil on the 64 and it is still great today on the Gamecube along with 3:Nemesis and Code Veronica X. Remake and Zero were amazing too I own them on Gamecube and Wii and seriously want to see Resident Evil 2-CVX get the remake treatment. Resident Evil 4 was different but Capcom made it work and actually evolved the series while changing the formula completely. You can still tell it was a Resident Evil game and the atmosphere was still a little creepy and had some scary moments but not too many. It was more action and then scary but worked just fine with me. I own Resident Evil 4 on the Gamecube and Wii.

In comes Resident Evil 5. The biggest departure of the series for me even though better then most games now. They added the never before done co-op in a Resident Evil game and and still kept the action and was not all that scary if it even was at all. they also got rid of the infamous type writer which I was sad to see go. The game was great and had some good DLC but went too far from the Resident Evil series even though I love the hell out of it.

I also got Resident Evil the Umbrella and Darkside Chronicles for Wii along with 5 of course. Out of the whole series my favorites are Resident Evil Remake, Resident Evil 2, and Resident Evil 4. I am looking forward to Mercenaries 3D and Revelations on the 3DS. It's awesome that Revelations is going to the old style but with a touch of the new. Just like I hoped for. Now all they got to do is add co-op, keep the action to a good amount with plenty of zombies to fend off, and many scary moments and elements with back tracking and plenty of puzzles. Mercenaries looks like a lot of fun too. Leon and Chris kicking ass together is just awesome. I hope they do add some maps that resemble older locations in the Resident Evil series. I would seriously love to see Raccoon City with zombies running around and Nemesis on the loose and a police station with Mr X and lastly the Mansion that started it all with Lisa Trevor as the boss of the map.

Brodie 03-21-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 830761)
They added the never before done co-op in a Resident Evil game and and still kept the action and was not all that scary if it even was at all.

Uhm...Never done before, like the previous two times they had co-op games? Outbreak and Outbreak file 2? With 4 player co-op?

Master Splinter 03-21-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles 25 Years (Post 830426)
No it's your nasty attitude on everything that's unwelcoming! So you get out you JERK!!! You're the one who is stupid! And I've read some of the crap you say on this site, and I will say YOU are the stupid person who is real piece of work. And you know what? I hope your crummy hand held games, your facebook, twitter, myspace, and your nasty pie hole mouth became the end of you, and some day you'll realize YOU are the one with stupid views on things!

Your view might hold more weight if you presented it better... I personally do not have any portable gaming systems, nor do I have a console, I haven't played Resident Evil and probably won't watch the movies... I just have to say that you have a clouded view of the world and you are the zombie if you think portable gaming systems are puny or whatever you called them... Sure nothing beats FORTY TWO INCHES OF HIGH DEFINITION SURROUND SOUND 5.1 DOLBY DIGITAL GEORGE LUCAS STAR WARS CONSOLE HDMI CONNECTED THX CERTIFIED HOME ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION DISPLAY SYSTEM... But can you take that on a 4 hour train ride? How about on vacation? Can you link up with friends at a park, outside, in the middle of nowhere and Pokemon it up? Nope... I sense much fear in you and it seems your emotions have clouded your judgement, fear is the path to the darkside, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. But I will tell you what... Play your super big high quality bright box... I and my more understanding friends will just sit back and watch you make a fool of yourself...

-ms

Turo602 03-21-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 830765)
Uhm...Never done before, like the previous two times they had co-op games? Outbreak and Outbreak file 2? With 4 player co-op?

Oh yeah, forgot about those. You know what I mean.8) Canon games from the main series like Resident Evil Zero, Remake, 2, 3:Nemesis, Code Veronica X, 4, and 5. I think Revelations takes place in 2005 so that would go between 4 and 5.

Spitfire 03-21-2011 06:23 PM

I used to like the RE series a lot. Now I'm not so big on it. I started out with 1 before the DC even came out. I've played them all and the only ones I really liked were 2, 3, and 4. 3 is my favorite by far though. It's the best of the tank control games and the most fun. It had more action and I know it well enough I can speed run it if I want to. 2 was fun but it sucked until duel shock came out. Playing with the D-pad was horrible. 4 was great of course and the changes it brought on were awesome.

I don't really play games very often anymore and when given the choice I usually break out one of the 5 games I haven't beaten yet. So these games collect a lot of dust. I have them all on GC, except Code Veronica. Honestly REmake is nice and all I just don't like the game very much. Zero I have the same problem with. Code Veronica I played through once and I hated it so I never touched it again. That was years ago though. If I tried it again maybe I would like it. RE 5 was so stale that playing it at the release party was enough to make me not want to pick it up.

The series is really hard to love anymore. Most of the games have crap controls. While I had them mastered years ago playing though the games again left me more frustrated then anything. Too many innovations have come along to make these games feel unplayable. At least cartridge era games were mostly 2D so this wasn't an issue. I also have huge issues with the story. Aside form having some of the worst dialogue, delivered by the worst voice actors, the story is also inconsistent as hell. It has more plot holes then anyone can count and while I found following it exciting and cool when I was 12 it just doesn't do anything for me anymore.

Turo602 03-22-2011 11:18 AM

I hate it when people complain about the controls. They work and add to the survival horror element.

deadpoolRKO 03-22-2011 12:21 PM

I had a ps2 with a screen you screw into the back of it , plug that baby into the cig lighter in the car.


Best. Handleld. EVER

Spitfire 03-22-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 831095)
I hate it when people complain about the controls. They work and add too the survival horror element.

Crappy controls don't add to anything but frustration. It also wasn't intentional it was just the best they had at the time for the style they wanted. They fixed some of it with the REmake I just think a more free flowing movement system would have worked better. They had a chance to do that and chose not to for some reason.

Peanut 03-22-2011 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 831095)
I hate it when people complain about the controls. They work and add too the survival horror element.

I hate when people try to justify the awful controls. The survival part should be because it`s actually hard, not because you can`t see or can`t do what you want to because the controls are so messed up. That`s just lazy horsesh*t and the worst excuse for awful controls ever.

Turo602 03-22-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 831192)
I hate when people try to justify the awful controls. The survival part should be because it`s actually hard, not because you can`t see or can`t do what you want to because the controls are so messed up. That`s just lazy horsesh*t and the worst excuse for awful controls ever.

So then the controls in Resident Evil 4 and 5 must suck then too huh? It's still the same. The only difference is the camera angles. The camera was awesome in the original games because that was the scariest element the games had. Not knowing what's around the corner or how close the enemy behind you is, is scary. The controls have no fault and work perfectly fine.

愛 03-22-2011 07:33 PM

I hate to say it, but I miss the old tank controls. :(

Peanut 03-23-2011 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 831220)
So then the controls in Resident Evil 4 and 5 must suck then too huh? It's still the same. The only difference is the camera angles. The camera was awesome in the original games because that was the scariest element the games had. Not knowing what's around the corner or how close the enemy behind you is, is scary. The controls have no fault and work perfectly fine.

The controls "work" in the sense that they hinder every action you take in order to make the game more frightening, yes. That doesn't mean they're good! Learn the distinction between the two.

Amazingly, the only game in the series that isn't the least bit frightening is 5 and that's because the controls are a ton more responsive. Unsurprisingly, 5 is also the best selling game in the history of the series. Coincidence? I think not.

The old RE games rely on sh*tty controls and obscuring camera angles to scare you, not legitimately difficult gameplay situations or truly frightening imagery. Fact!

Turo602 03-23-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 831363)
The controls "work" in the sense that they hinder every action you take in order to make the game more frightening, yes. That doesn't mean they're good! Learn the distinction between the two.

Amazingly, the only game in the series that isn't the least bit frightening is 5 and that's because the controls are a ton more responsive. Unsurprisingly, 5 is also the best selling game in the history of the series. Coincidence? I think not.

The old RE games rely on sh*tty controls and obscuring camera angles to scare you, not legitimately difficult gameplay situations or truly frightening imagery. Fact!

You're funny. Just because you don't understand that gameplay doesn't make them suck. It's called adapting to simple gameplay. Pushing the stick forward does not mean your forward it's the character's forward. Same goes for left, right, and down. How is that hard to remember? As I said before, the gameplay never changed, just the camera.

EDIT: Here's some new news on Resident Evil.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/115/1157169p1.html

http://ds.ign.com/articles/115/1157180p1.html

I'M SO HYPED!

Peanut 03-23-2011 06:11 PM

I always love the "you don't understand it!" argument from people trying to defend something blindly. You act as if people who, rightfully, think the controls are bad didn't play/beat any of the original RE games.

Stop being a fanboy, it's disgusting.

Turo602 03-23-2011 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 831465)
I always love the "you don't understand it!" argument from people trying to defend something blindly. You act as if people who, rightfully, think the controls are bad didn't play/beat any of the original RE games.

Stop being a fanboy, it's disgusting.

I do not recall saying any of that. When exactly did I say that any of you guys didn't pass any of the games? If you had such a problem with the controls saying that they hinder every action you take then you obviously couldn't adapt to it and see why it was so unique. Not once did I ever get screwed over by the controls when I first played or even play them now. They were simple and easy to use.

I'm not trying to say that I'm right or that you're wrong. I just want to know why so many people found the controls so "horrible" and give compliments to games like Resident Evil 4 and 5 when the controls are the same?

Cure 03-23-2011 07:10 PM

Your blind defense is just becoming more and more apparent.

Turo602 03-23-2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 831471)
Your blind defense is just becoming more and more apparent.

How exactly is it blind?

Peanut 03-23-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 831470)
I'm not trying to say that I'm right or that you're wrong. I just want to know why so many people found the controls so "horrible" and give compliments to games like Resident Evil 4 and 5 when the controls are the same?

They aren't the same! The controls are even different from 4 to 5, let alone from 4 down. You don't understand the subtle differences in controls make all the difference in games. It's why something like a sh*tty mascot platformer from the mid 90's can have the exact same controls as a Mario game, but still play like complete sh*t! The slight changes of movement speed, turning radius, slight changes in physics and momentum - they all have huge impacts on the way a game controls, just because you press right to run and A to jump doesn't mean they're the same.

It is made continually clear that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Cure 03-23-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 831472)
How exactly is it blind?

Answering that would be like explaining colors to someone who's never seen; futile.


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