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Samhain 04-27-2011 06:04 PM

Dragonball/Z/GT fans?
 
Anyone here into DragonBall? I have been into it since I was like 12. Really big fan of the Anime and the Manga. I also love collecting the various lines of figures and collectables. My favorite character has gotta be Vegeta. He's such a badass.

Favorite saga-Cell-This saga was the one I really got into. I just love that epic struggle at the end. Then, outta nowhere Vegeta comes in and helps out everybody. Plus, bruce faulconer makes some good tunes.

愛 04-27-2011 06:09 PM

I really enjoy the Dragonball universe, and I agree that Vegeta is awesome. He's one of the unsung heroes of the series, I'd say. He's also the one who changes the most over the course of the series.

I find the Cell saga to be one of my favorite sagas, for sure. It was incredibly surprising to find that Gohan would be the one to save everyone in that particular instance. Great stuff.

Samhain 04-27-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ai (Post 844051)
I really enjoy the Dragonball universe, and I agree that Vegeta is awesome. He's one of the unsung heroes of the series, I'd say. He's also the one who changes the most over the course of the series.

I find the Cell saga to be one of my favorite sagas, for sure. It was incredibly surprising to find that Gohan would be the one to save everyone in that particular instance. Great stuff.

Yes, for sure. I do feel that Vegeta gets the shaft alot of the time though. I mean, he's got heart. Yet, they always make him look like a pansy. Cell should have been done as soon as Vegeta connected that Final Flash! Haha.

gobo 04-27-2011 06:21 PM

I plan on marathoning all three series someday, in the foreseeable future.

Samhain 04-27-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 844060)
I plan on marathoning all three series someday, in the foreseeable future.

Yeah, that's actually what Im doing right now. Started with Z though. Im not a huge fan of Dragonball to be honest and my wife is watching it with me so Im afraid she wont give it a chance if she's bored. Started on friday and we are already at the end of the Saiyan saga.

oldmanwinters 04-27-2011 06:28 PM

:shifty:

...

Spoiler:
Yes.

Guilty pleasure dating back to high school when Toonami was king on Cartoon Network.

These days, I think I enjoy parodies of the source material just as much as the real thing.

XERO 04-27-2011 06:40 PM

DragonBall Z is the reason I started watching anime in the first place. It's like the ultimate fantasy. Getting to fly, kicking all sorts of ass, performing powerful blasts, and having badass hair.

One of my favorite shows of all time. I miss it a lot.

Cure 04-27-2011 06:41 PM

Yeah, Gohan blasting Cell with one arm is a big memory from when I was young.

Samhain 04-27-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Benvenuto (Post 844072)
having badass hair.


That's the reason I started watching it! :lol: J/K.

Ninjinister 04-27-2011 06:48 PM

My interest fluctuates, but I've got quite a bit of collectables still, including a lot of DVDs, games, and toys. I also have a huge collection of Dragon Balls that had come with various figures. Every so often though, I'll get into a big DB kick again. I've always been, and will be, a fan though, ever since I saw the Harmony Gold dub back in '87 or so.

Koi 04-27-2011 06:52 PM

Use to come home from school and go straight to the tv to watch DBZ with my older bro. I freakin adored DBZ.

Abnormal Freak 04-27-2011 06:55 PM

I've been a steady Dragon Ball fan since it first started airing early weekday mornings on syndicated TV in '95. :p (Does that give me extra white boy American nerd points?) Which would've made me 9. I clamored for anything anime. I thankfully have an older brother who'd already been buying anime on VHS, but even then the anime I'd seen was kind of sparse and I was desperate for anything that I could see on syndicated television, ha. Didn't matter that I had to wake up super early to see some of it, I just wanted to experience it.

About a year after DBZ had started airing on syndicated TV in '96 or whenever, my family got THE INTERNETZ :O and I did a Yahoo! search for the show. Found out about all the censorship here in the States and have been wanting to see the original two series uncut and subbed ever since, but refused to ever pay for shoddy fansub VHS tapes and that. Thankfully, a few years ago they released those 13-or-so-episodes-per-release DVD sets of the first series, and now are doing the Dragon Box releases for DBZ. Been collecting those, but still haven't finished DB. :p Almost finished, though—three discs left, I think? Kinda going about it slowly 'cos my brother's been wanting to watch it with me, and it's difficult to coordinate times to get together and watch things. But man, am I enjoying the show.

Doubt I'll ever get into GT, but y'never know.

Now if only fully uncensored collections of the comics would be released here. :p

And for the record, though I think it's a minority opinion, I've always thought the Ocean dub of DBZ kicks the dick off of the later dubbing, especially since it kept the original music (for the movies at least—I can't remember if it did in the show).

Samhain 04-27-2011 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Abnormal Freak (Post 844079)
And for the record, though I think it's a minority opinion, I've always thought the Ocean dub of DBZ kicks the dick off of the later dubbing, especially since it kept the original music (for the movies at least—I can't remember if it did in the show).

I def prefer the Funimation dub over the Ocean. I think because that's what I saw first so it's forever stuck in my mind as ''The'' Dbz. Atleast for me.

Abnormal Freak 04-27-2011 07:11 PM

It's possible it's a thing of "first-heard" for me as well. And, really, I exaggerate things: I don't think the Ocean dub is leaps and bounds beyond the other or anything (though I would say that about the movie Dead Zone—the Ocean dub yanks the pants down of the FUNimation dub and gives it several swats on the cheeks, IMO), but I do find the new music unsettling. About as unsettling as the cropped widescreen transfers on the DBZ orange brick DVD sets. :p

But, what do I care? I prefer the show subbed anyway. :p

Samhain 04-27-2011 07:17 PM

I will say that I really enjoy Brian Drummond as a younger Vegeta and then Chris Sabat as an older, more mature Vegeta. They both are great.

Powder 04-27-2011 09:48 PM

I was obsessed with it for the longest time but then one day I went cold turkey & lost interest. Same thing happened with Gundam Wing, Tenchi Muyo & other toonami shows. Pokemon too for a brief period. I've given a lot of thought to returning to it but it'd probably do me more bad than good. Doing that with TMNT (though my passion never truly wavered) & Pokemon has had me with less and less bedroom space and a low amount of funds. When I like something, I dive into it hardcore buying collectibles like manga/comics, toys, DVD's, games, the whole nine. I can't afford that right now, haha! I give it a glance once in a blue moon on Nicktoons (or whatever station it's on) and occasionally online. Still have a place for it in my heart & all that. Tien was always my favorite character.

Samhain 04-27-2011 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 844130)
Tien was always my favorite character.

Wow, you are the first person I have ever heard say Tien was their favorite character! Any reason why?

oldmanwinters 04-27-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Samhain (Post 844132)
Wow, you are the first person I have ever heard say Tien was their favorite character! Any reason why?

I always had a lot of love for Tien, since he was just as dedicated to his training as Goku, even though his 100% human DNA (at least I assume he's a mere man) guaranteed that he would never be able to keep pace with Saiyens, Nameks, and Androids. Still, Tien mantains his relevance even through the Cell Saga, keeping Imperfect Cell incapacitated while the Saiyens are indisposed.

Gotta love those guys who represented the human race. Krillin had his moments of glory in the show (Yamcha at least got PWN'd valiantly), but only Tien had the dedication to keep training rigorously even after it was clear he'd never again measure up to his Z Fighter peers.

Powder 04-27-2011 09:58 PM

Honestly it's been so long that I can't remember many details. I can say with confidence I thought he was really cool looking though. :trazz:

XERO 04-27-2011 10:42 PM

The third eye. It's gotta be the third eye.

Jester 04-27-2011 10:48 PM

I watched it a little, but I jumped in during the Bu saga...so yeah....

Do love DBZ Abridged though.

sdp 04-27-2011 10:49 PM

I started with Dragon Ball back in the early 90s, DBZ in the mid 90s and GT in the late 90s. I gotta admit it kinda bothers me when people started with DBZ and then bash the original :b The original is simply classic, and while DBZ was awesome, looking back its harder to watch through since its rather bland and predictable. The original is simply such a fun series. Also I actually enjoy GT, it seemed to try to go back to the original for inspiration and I thought it worked, I also thought it had plenty of interesting stuff and fights, is it flawed? sure but so is DBZ, maybe it doesn't stand out as much as the other two series but its not deserving of the hate it gets.

Voltron 04-28-2011 01:58 AM

I'm going through DB for the first time right now. I like it quite a bit. DBZ got a little over the top towards the end, with everyone becoming mystical super saiyans. GT I didn't bother with, since, by then, all the characters were strong enough to blow the planet up with a fart, it seemed a little too. . . over done, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Ai
I really enjoy the Dragonball universe, and I agree that Vegeta is awesome. He's one of the unsung heroes of the series, I'd say. He's also the one who changes the most over the course of the series.

I find the Cell saga to be one of my favorite sagas, for sure. It was incredibly surprising to find that Gohan would be the one to save everyone in that particular instance. Great stuff.

I agree with the Vegeta sentiments, but I always bothered by his character's evolution into a coward. Every time some new villain showed up, he would whine about how impossible it is to defeat him. Anyone else feel like he got a bum deal in that regard?

I really began to admire him in the Freeza saga, as he used his cunning more so than his power to beat his opponents.

oldmanwinters 04-28-2011 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Voltron (Post 844205)
I agree with the Vegeta sentiments, but I always bothered by his character's evolution into a coward. Every time some new villain showed up, he would whine about how impossible it is to defeat him. Anyone else feel like he got a bum deal in that regard?

Yeah, it's both truth and annoying.

But it is interesting that Goku never defeated Vegeta in a one-on-one fight, despite Vegeta's ever persistent inferiority complex at being surpassed by a third-class Saiyen.

deadpoolRKO 04-28-2011 08:41 AM

i love dragonball z , dbz budokai tenkaichi 3 was my favorite game for a long time , it had soo many characters. I don't know how many nights me and my friends spent doing tournaments and stuff. it was so fun.

I remember coming home from school , doing hw , and eating dinner when DBZ came on toonami.

I really didn't like GT. It was just really lame to me and the whole hooking up to a machine to go SS4 was just dumb to me.

I really liked the movies too , the tree of might , the cooler movies , ect.

Vegeta def. was made into this guy whose goal in life was to be better than Goku. His whole character was basically a perspective to make Goku look strong.

but he had his moments where he was awesome.

my fav. was Gohan for a long time but He was so lame after the cell saga i started to dislike him. So i guess Teen Gohan is my fav. Followed closely by Piccolo.


Fav character to be on the games = Burter.

ZariusTwo 04-28-2011 09:19 AM

If there was one problem with DBZ, it would be the endless amount of Linkin Park AMVs it produced

ssjup81 04-28-2011 10:18 AM

I like Dragon Ball/Z/GT okay. I was a bigger fan of Dragon Ball, though, because it was funnier. No idea how the dub handled it, though. Same goes for GT (dub wise, don't know how it was handled or the Buu saga of Z). For GT, I liked it in the very beginning, because it had a real Dragon Ball feel to it, but then it started going the Z route, and it turned me off from it.

gobo 04-28-2011 01:23 PM

Trying to remember what my favorite arc was, I keep thinking... Super 17 from GT. :embarass: I guess that's for the same reason that my favorite 4Kids TMNT ep is "DNA is Thicker than Water" from the similarly, mostly lame "Fast Forward" rebranding of the show.
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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 844206)
But it is interesting that Goku never defeated Vegeta in a one-on-one fight, despite Vegeta's ever persistent inferiority complex at being surpassed by a third-class Saiyan.

That's because Goku is the power of humility personified.

Redeemer 04-28-2011 01:32 PM

I love the series overal, it got me into anime so it will always have a special place in my heart

TheCanadiandrome 04-28-2011 02:29 PM

i've read some of the Manga, watched all the shows, so yeah i'm a fan of the DB Universe

Samhain 04-28-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Voltron (Post 844205)
I agree with the Vegeta sentiments, but I always bothered by his character's evolution into a coward. Every time some new villain showed up, he would whine about how impossible it is to defeat him. Anyone else feel like he got a bum deal in that regard?

Yeah. That and he always seemed to have this epic power up for like 5 episodes only for the villain to dodge or block it. SMH. They made him out to look like a fool. They should have let him have that victory,just once.

Like when he sacrificed himself when fighting Fat Buu. He had that epic speech,and even said he was doing it for Goku, only to die and look like a fool. Damn!
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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 844171)
I started with Dragon Ball back in the early 90s, DBZ in the mid 90s and GT in the late 90s. I gotta admit it kinda bothers me when people started with DBZ and then bash the original :b The original is simply classic, and while DBZ was awesome, looking back its harder to watch through since its rather bland and predictable. The original is simply such a fun series. Also I actually enjoy GT, it seemed to try to go back to the original for inspiration and I thought it worked, I also thought it had plenty of interesting stuff and fights, is it flawed? sure but so is DBZ, maybe it doesn't stand out as much as the other two series but its not deserving of the hate it gets.

I agree. I for one really enjoyed GT. I gotta admit, Super Saiyan 4 is prob my favorite SSJ form next to SSJ2. I just love the look of it. But GT had to live up to Z which was hard. And Akira Toriyama not having much input with the show I think turned people off from it from the start. But, it is Dragonball, and as a story everything jives.

ssjup81 04-29-2011 10:18 AM

I forgot to mention my favorite Z saga, and that's the Super Saiya-jin Saga because, to me, it was one of the few sagas in Z that was done right. The full focus was on Gohan, like it should have been.

Oh, did anyone here see that special that takes place after the Buu saga which introduces us to Vegeta's younger brother Teeburu (Table)? Dragon Ball: Ossu! Kaette Kita Son Goku to Nakamatachi!! It was out back in 2008. It was really fun to watch. Everyone was pretty much in it and Toriyama had input with it, so I guess you can consider it "canon".
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Originally Posted by Samhain (Post 844385)
I just love the look of it. But GT had to live up to Z which was hard. And Akira Toriyama not having much input with the show I think turned people off from it from the start. But, it is Dragonball, and as a story everything jives.

Toriyama had no input with the show. It was all anime-original and not even considered canon by most fans since Toriyama had nothing to do with it. Toriyama, originally, wanted to end his manga after the Cell saga, but was urged to keep going, and then we got the Buu saga. After the Buu saga, he was like, "Okay, no more!!" We then get Toei coming out with another animated series based on absolutely nothing by Toriyama, to keep the fans of the actual animated series happy.

deadpoolRKO 04-29-2011 10:44 AM

So since we've got this dbz thread going

did anyone watch that live action movie?

I never could make myself watch it

sdp 04-29-2011 11:02 AM

I watched it, and contrary to most people I thought all the changes were fine, Dragon Ball is way too cartoony and out there to make a serious movie and not make it look like a parody. So I disagreed with people that think the changes ruined the movie. Now I thought I would like the movie since I liked the changes but that was the problem, the movie is just boring, its not mind numbingly bad and the changes work but it just bores you.

shuriken 04-29-2011 11:34 AM

I really liked DBZ growing up. But after watching it again it's really not that great. Sure it's fun to watch but especially watching 4-5 episodes at a time it gets really annoying when someone is charging up their power levels and 2-5 people are gawking at how powerful he/she is (who am I kidding he).
I enjoy Dragonball a lot more. It has a better flow to it than DBZ did IMO. I loved the fact that they actually showed a (3 of them! and Goku only won once!) tournament and the Red Ribbon army is pretty awesome. The simple fact that Goku or general Tao didn't charge up their power levels for 4 episodes was defenitely a plus. Yamcha was actually my favorite character in that show but by the time DBZ came around he was pretty much useless. And got his girl snatched up by Vegeta. Gohan was my favorite in DBZ even after the Cell saga. it's nice to know that someone has a life outside of fighting. Mr. Satan was hilarious as well.
I watched GT but it was way over the top by then. Goku turning into a kid and Vegeta regressing back into his inferiority complex as well as the awful 7 dragons arc straight up sucked. Plus Baby, ugh how I hate Baby. The best thing to come from that series was the Super 17 saga and the super Saiyin 4 design.

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If there was one problem with DBZ, it would be the endless amount of Linkin Park AMVs it produced
QFT
I was very tempted to post one of the thousands off of Youtube but decided against it :lol:

TheCanadiandrome 04-29-2011 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by deadpoolRKO (Post 844451)
So since we've got this dbz thread going

did anyone watch that live action movie?

I never could make myself watch it

me either. and i never got too much into DBGT

Samhain 04-29-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 844444)
Toriyama had no input with the show. It was all anime-original and not even considered canon by most fans since Toriyama had nothing to do with it. Toriyama, originally, wanted to end his manga after the Cell saga, but was urged to keep going, and then we got the Buu saga. After the Buu saga, he was like, "Okay, no more!!" We then get Toei coming out with another animated series based on absolutely nothing by Toriyama, to keep the fans of the actual animated series happy.

No, it has been stated by Toriyama himself that he had minor involvement in the show's early stages, setting forth the initial premise of the series, as well as creating designs for most of the villains and main characters , including Giru.

It may not be based on a manga and while he did not personally write GT, he did strictly oversee its production.

deadpoolRKO 05-10-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 844170)

Do love DBZ Abridged though.


Nappa " oh look vegeta , it's a pokemon ! "

Wildgoose 05-10-2011 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by deadpoolRKO (Post 846947)
Nappa " oh look vegeta , it's a pokemon ! "

L-O-L!!
I love DBZ and I vote for Vegeta!!! He was my favourite character! I wish he would become the main protagonist as the series continued but I was hoping for too much I guess...

cofi 08-15-2011 04:00 PM

First and best anime i watched ;)


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