Who's to blame for Apollo's death?
 

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Common sense would say Drago but Creed obviously couldn't defend himself and the ref did nothing to stop the fight.

Rocky also stood on the sidelines and watched his friend get beaten to death when he could've ended the fight by throwing in the towel.

Or you can just say it was all Apollo's fault for being a prideful idiot who put himself in that situation and deserved what he got.

Thoughts.

1) F*CKING SPOILERS IN THE THREAD TITLE!

2) I picked other, because I still think his mustache is to blame. A man simply shouldn't have a mustache that thick and well groomed if he can't fight. It gives you way too much confidence.

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I voted his pride. Sure, Rocky coulda threw in the towel, but ultimately, Apollo knew better than to keep going even though he was getting his arse kicked. Little thing called 'self-responsibility'.

this.


but if his mustache would've been an option i'm not gonna lie , i would've chose it.

Ref's fault. He would've lost his job for sure in real life, maybe even gotten sued -- Apollo was clearly getting hammered and it's not up to Apollo to decide how much more he can fight, that's the ref's call.

Drago, because...um....COMMUNISM!!!!

I feel awful for having laughed at Jester's joke. But I did.

Your resolve is weakening, Brodie.

Apollo's entrance was barely enough to sum up his Ego, but the major fault lies on the referee

F*ck that. It's James Brown's fault!

Carl Weathers pretty much dies in every movie he's in anyway.

Remember Action Jackson?

/sarcasm

Also, Liam Neeson. Or at least it seemed like he used to before he became an action star in Taken.

So Winters, does your reasoning come from the oft misquoted Proverbs 16:8:
"Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall."

Nope, it's just that the first three Liam movies I saw were The Phantom Menace, Batman Begins, and The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. In all three, his character died... apparently... or at least for a certain length of time.

Yeah...well...them maybe...but Creed...what about him?

Oh, and can I change my vote to "Writer-Sylvester Stallone"? I mean, Carl Weathers comes to Sly and says, "I think I'm ready to move on from the Rocky movies." And Sly's all like, "UH, ok man. I really wanted to use Apollo in Rocky IV...but...whatever." "Ok, fine I'll do one more...even if it kills me." "Kills me you say..." "Sly...what's that look. I don't like that look."

He brought it on himself. Anyone who wears US flag themed apparel deserves to die. So tacky.

Robert Tepper killed Apollo, because without his death we would never have gotten a good opportunity to enjoy this epic montage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg8RV4h-fAA

Maybe it was James Brown. His performance was subpar and his lack of funk didn't give Apollo enough energy to fight Drago efficiently.

I think you guys are onto something here

Maybe if Weird Al had preformed instead Apollo would have lived...

Nah, he probably woulda got sniped before he got to the ring.

Ouch, Benny...Ouch!

Having watch through these movies just now, all Apollo did is get his ass kicked in every single movie. And every time he acted conceited and underestimated his opponent, thinking he would easily beat them and not taking it seriously.

Seriously, not one time was Apollo humble. You'd think getting beat down by Rocky two times in a row after underestimating him would be a wake up call, but no he does it with the Russian as well and gets killed.

Then after that he gets killed again by the Predator three years later in the jungle so he clearly never learned his lesson.

It was Paulie's robot. You saw how thrown Apollo was when he saw it. I can only assume that experience haunted him to the end. How can you expect him to train and fight with a clear head knowing that thing is trundling around Rocky's place doing god-knows-what with Paulie.

The robot didn't even look that advanced, looked like an oversized children's toy from the 80's.

The answer is Sylvester Stallone looking for meanful and motivation driven drama. Of all of the characters Sylvester and coproducers killed off Carl was the onevwho was most against his character's death. He wanted to come back in Balboa if only for a flashback, but was turned down. Sly wanted his nod for film archive usage only. His position never chanfed as to why not a voice over or archive was used in Creed.

As for the incident itself,all four are to blame. In reality if it did hapoen it would be the refree that blame would fall upon.

Rocky didn't throw in the towel like Mrs. Creed wanted in an effort to adhere to his friends's wish not to until Rocky realized what others that might include Apollo thst if he didn't Apollo would die. Blinded by loyalty to Apollo's character he didnt see it until the fatal punch. Apollo perhaps realized after round one what was going to hapoen and wanted to go down that way as a fighter.

False. He told Stallone he wanted Apollo to be alive in the movie, basically retconning away Rocky 4, and of course Stallone said no way.

That's one of the worst ideas I've heard in some time. There's no way that would have worked. Even Apollo faking his death would have made no sense either.

Isn't that what I just said? :trazz: Carl wanted a part in the film when Sly approached him about request for approval of using his likeness in archive footage, but Carl wanted a role.

Maybe Carl was thinking, "well heck, Rocky's kid aged a decade in the week between Rocky IV and V... why can't Apollo come back from the dead?"

Here is a thought, would it have been better for Apollo to be in the hospital fighting for his life or to die? Paulie turned out okay after being assulted by Tommy in the fifth film. I can see it borh ways.

Paulie just got punched once. Apollo was pummeled to death.