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deadpoolRKO 06-02-2011 12:02 AM

DC Comics are starting over. Beggining EVERY Issue at number one this fall.
 
Every Current DC comics series will have it's final issue this summer.

Then , over 52 titles will Start new this fall , and every series will be available digitally as well.

The first book to be released under this new era: Justice League No. 1, out Aug. 31. The series by writer Geoff Johns and artist Jim Lee reunites the famous lineup of Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, The Flash, Wonder Woman and Aquaman.



Pretty bold move.

Donnie 06-02-2011 12:04 AM

Rad. I wonder if my fav DC hero Hawkman will get a re-boot, too.

deadpoolRKO 06-02-2011 12:12 AM

i would think so with 52 series starting he's at least be in one of them if not have his own

Candy Kappa 06-02-2011 06:21 AM

meh. Resetting the numbering of the issues are just cheap and rebooting are unnecessary.

ZariusTwo 06-02-2011 03:20 PM

Bob Harras (current DC EIC) pulled off this exact stunt at Marvel a decade ago, it famously blew up in their faces

That Matt Guy 06-02-2011 03:31 PM

I believe Detective Comics is at like 880 issues, right? Been running since the 1930's. Yeah, so let's just throw all of that away and start over at 1.

In three years they'll go back to "classic numbering"

deadpoolRKO 06-02-2011 07:15 PM

yeah i guess they're thought process has to be everythings going digital , so to boost sales and attention to digital sales they have to re-start every series to get everyones attention

Voltron 06-03-2011 01:28 PM

I can't wait to get my new Batman #1 signed by Bob Kane!

Godzilla 06-03-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Voltron (Post 854057)
I can't wait to get my new Batman #1 signed by Bob Kane!

Goes along nicely with a signed copy of Batman #0, right? ;) :D

Voltron 06-04-2011 12:22 PM

I forgot that. Why do they number issues zero, now? Stupid.

oldmanwinters 06-04-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Voltron (Post 854323)
I forgot that. Why do they number issues zero, now? Stupid.

Eh, it's not really that recent of a phenomenon. Anything for more collector's sales, right?:lol:

Candy Kappa 06-04-2011 06:40 PM

how bout a Youngblood routine and make a #1/2 issue :P

Jephael 06-04-2011 10:50 PM

I'm a little miffed that they're doing this because...
Spoiler:
I was looking forward to seeing if they'd bring Bruce Wayne back from the dead.

Candy Kappa 06-05-2011 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 854521)
I'm a little miffed that they're doing this because...
Spoiler:
I was looking forward to seeing if they'd bring Bruce Wayne back from the dead.

um, what?

Spoiler:
He's been back for some time. batman inc. and all that time traveling


honestly I don't think spoiler tag is necessary due to it's age...

Mr._Mutant_Man 06-05-2011 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Voltron (Post 854323)
I forgot that. Why do they number issues zero, now? Stupid.

The number zero issues were okay. They gave an overview of each character's origin and history at that point. Considering how much DC likes to change things around, it was a pretty good idea.

Ninjinister 06-05-2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 854521)
I'm a little miffed that they're doing this because...
Spoiler:
I was looking forward to seeing if they'd bring Bruce Wayne back from the dead.

He was never "dead" in the first place. His brain shot through time or something ridiculous like that. They did almost the exact same thing with Captain America. Bruce is now co-Batman alongside Dick and has started a "Batman Inc.", proposing that Batman is bigger than one person, but instead can be a global idea, with many Batman-esque superheroes around the world joining his cause.

And like Kiwamu said... no spoiler tags 'cause he's been back for like a year now.

Godzilla 06-05-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man (Post 854606)
The number zero issues were okay. They gave an overview of each character's origin and history at that point. Considering how much DC likes to change things around, it was a pretty good idea.

It was also a nifty way to get fans interested in DC Comics back during the mid-1990's during the whole Zero Hour event. Which was something of a 'soft' reboot if anything. As the entire event set out to correct continuity problems that stood out following Crisis on Infinite Earths, with the #0 issues going over the character's origin and backstory as it stood at that point in time with the DCU.

Krutch 06-05-2011 02:10 PM

I'm still a bit confused about this. Is this a new universe? Like, everything that I've read so far "never happened" and its all brand new beginnings? Or are they wrapping up all current story lines at the same time, then resetting the issue number to 1?

Godzilla 06-06-2011 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Krutch (Post 854655)
I'm still a bit confused about this. Is this a new universe? Like, everything that I've read so far "never happened" and its all brand new beginnings? Or are they wrapping up all current story lines at the same time, then resetting the issue number to 1?

I think it's more the later, than the former. DC Comics has already said that this isn't a total reboot of their universe.

Candy Kappa 06-06-2011 10:29 AM

thought I read somewhere that some of the flashpoint stuff might hang around for a while after the re-numbering.

Don't take my words for good fish, cause I have no idea where i got it from O_o

As for reboots, it isn't impossible that Superman gets a soft reboot again, if that lawsuit circus goes too sour.

azrael 06-18-2011 09:25 AM

Im a little upset with Barbara being batgirl again New batgirl book with the old batgirl...

Turo602 06-18-2011 10:44 PM

They suriously ruined Batman and Superman's looks. You can't mess with iconic. What the hell!

azrael 06-19-2011 09:20 AM

they honestly didnt mess with them 2 that much look at red robin.... thats horrific

I like both Supes and Bats new looks.

PizzaPower 06-19-2011 11:07 AM

i never read any of the dc comics but all these batman comics and whatnot confuse the hell out of me.

Turo602 06-19-2011 11:07 AM

As a new costume I don't mind Superman but as a new look that will stick it bothers me. His red underwear and his yellow belt are missing. His red boots aren't the same, and his trademark curl is gone. Superman was not in need of change. At least not his look.

Batman. Now Batman I don't mind because it looks like Batman but again, the underwear is gone. He looks like he's wearing diapers under his tights. I wouldn't mind it if his costume were all black, but it's not. The gray on him just looks goofy. There's not enough black. And his belt isn't yellow either. I would of preferred all black with a yellow belt and the yellow oval with the Bat symbol on his chest.

azrael 06-20-2011 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PizzaPower (Post 858838)
i never read any of the dc comics but all these batman comics and whatnot confuse the hell out of me.

we take it one month at a time...

azrael 06-20-2011 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 858840)
As a new costume I don't mind Superman but as a new look that will stick it bothers me. His red underwear and his yellow belt are missing. His red boots aren't the same, and his trademark curl is gone. Superman was not in need of change. At least not his look.

Batman. Now Batman I don't mind because it looks like Batman but again, the underwear is gone. He looks like he's wearing diapers under his tights. I wouldn't mind it if his costume were all black, but it's not. The gray on him just looks goofy. There's not enough black. And his belt isn't yellow either. I would of preferred all black with a yellow belt and the yellow oval with the Bat symbol on his chest.

I agree the look didnt need to be messed with Superman but if thats what it takes to make you feel like superman isnt b or c list character I will take it.

Fugitoid Jones 06-20-2011 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Ninjinister (Post 854611)
He was never "dead" in the first place. His brain shot through time or something ridiculous like that. They did almost the exact same thing with Captain America. Bruce is now co-Batman alongside Dick and has started a "Batman Inc.", proposing that Batman is bigger than one person, but instead can be a global idea, with many Batman-esque superheroes around the world joining his cause.

This is one of the reasons why I'm kind of looking forward to the reboot. Wash away all the ridiculous crap that guys like Grant Morrison have done to Batman and Superman over the past few years.

The Clerk 06-20-2011 04:54 PM

...I wonder if Chloe will now be in Superman... :-P

Fugitoid Jones 06-21-2011 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Clerk (Post 859074)
...I wonder if Chloe will now be in Superman... :-P

Actually she has been for like a year or 2. She's been involved with Jimmy Olsen.

ZariusTwo 07-18-2011 04:29 PM

Say goodbye to Superman's marraige

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/07...n-of-tomorrow/

Leo656 07-18-2011 10:46 PM

I'm a huge Superman fan. I was born into the Reeve movies and the 50s tv show, got into the comics with the Man of Steel reboot as a 4-year old, sat through countless retcons, reboots, awesome-to-horrible cartoons and movies, spent a small fortune accumulating every single Superman comic from '86 to 2010, and never gave up.

I don't want any of this. This sounds WRETCHED. And I love Morrison and Perez, generally speaking, but I HATE the way Morrison looks at Superman and his love affair with all the corny 60s nonsense. And splitting up Lois and Clark is just the laziest kind of retconning. "We don't like mushy lovey stuff in our super-hero comics". Never mind that Lois and the Kents make him a more interesting character. "Kal-El the alien outsider" is BORING, and that's the character 99% of Superman haters comment on. Only a few writers even make the effort to focus on how the supporting cast, Lois in particular, are this "alien's" link to humanity, how the thinks and feels as a human being (or at least he DID) rather than some alien deity. But hey, let's just wipe all that out because the only thing they THINK people wanna see Superman do is brood and toss skyscrapers around like some kind of mid-90s Image character.

Superman/Clark "outsmarting" Lois all the damn time to protect his secret identity was corny, stupid and played out before I was even born. She has got to be the stupidest "investigative journalist" ever, to spend like 8 hours a day with "Clark" and the rest of the day getting rescued by "Superman" and STILL not see they're the same guy. Other people it makes sense, but she sees him more than anyone else face to face, so it just makes her a retard. That's why I loved it when they finally had him do the big reveal and married them off. It's like, "yeah, about damn time, now we can move on to some new stuff that hasn't been done to death." You don't move forward by moving backwards.

Plus we get a sh*tty new origin that sounds like it's gonna be worse than Birthright, which I do give them credit in a sense for: I seriously thought Birthright was the worst version of the origin they could do. I'm usually the first to say "well, let's read it and see," but there's almost no way this can be good, from the sound of it. I was tentative about Geoff Johns' "Secret Origin", but I ended up loving it even with all the retcons. It's my second-favorite Superman origin, right after Man of Steel, and it was not even TWO YEARS AGO for crying out loud. They not only didn't need a retcon this soon, they didn't need a retcon AT ALL! It was good enough to stand as the definitive origin for at least a while. Stupid, stupid, STUPID.

I was cautiously optimistic about the DC relaunch; I've been broke and haven't gotten any books in a year, but when I left off with Brightest Day I was loving pretty much EVERYTHING DC was doing. I'm still jumping back in with the relaunch, but man, I'm depressed about it, because 99% of it looks like it's going to suck. I spent an entire day seriously thinking about just quitting. God knows I could use the money I'd save, but comics have been my main hobby since I learned to read. :ohwell:

I guess I'll just hold my nose, swallow the suck, and hope that by next year at the latest this New DC has already gone the way of New Coke. It doesn't make sense that they sh*tcan everything and start over just when the entire line was as good if not better than it's ever been.

ZariusTwo 07-22-2011 06:54 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...l_in_supe.html

Yep, back to Lois being all rejecting of Clark in favour of boy toys, with Clark feeling isolated and lonely again

Jester 07-22-2011 07:15 AM

Yeah, because fans loved it so much when Marvel did it with Spider-man. Way to learn from the competition's mistakes DC.

EDIT: Also, is Superman wearing body armor?

Galactus 07-22-2011 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fugitoid Jones (Post 858976)
This is one of the reasons why I'm kind of looking forward to the reboot. Wash away all the ridiculous crap that guys like Grant Morrison have done to Batman and Superman over the past few years.

Except that Batman is one of the characters that is keeping his recent history so all Grant Morrison's Batman stories are still valid. In fact his series Batman Inc will also be getting a new #1.

And Morrison has also being handed Superman. Of course since he wrote the only Superman story in recent years I'd say he's entitled.


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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 858840)
As a new costume I don't mind Superman but as a new look that will stick it bothers me. His red underwear and his yellow belt are missing. His red boots aren't the same, and his trademark curl is gone. Superman was not in need of change. At least not his look.

Well there's a very real possibility that by 2013 DC may no longer own the classic Superman costume due to the Schuster lawsuit.

It shouldn't go unnoticed that Supe's new costume gets rid of all the stuff that the Schusters may get. A blue leotard, a yellow belt, red trunks. I'd even bet the erasure of the marriage is also to do with the fact that may have to eliminate a love interest named "Lois" altogether.

Quote:

Now Batman I don't mind because it looks like Batman but again, the underwear is gone. He looks like he's wearing diapers under his tights. I wouldn't mind it if his costume were all black, but it's not. The gray on him just looks goofy. There's not enough black. And his belt isn't yellow either. I would of preferred all black with a yellow belt and the yellow oval with the Bat symbol on his chest.
It seems similar is Batman Inc anyway minus the oval and clearly visible cod piece. The design of his belt has always been interchangable depending on the artist. Personaly I'm not sure the all black works in the comics. DC tried a Tim Burton-esque costume after Zero Hour if rememeber correctly and it just didn't look good.

ZariusTwo 07-23-2011 02:46 PM

Yeah this whole continuity thing on Superman's side makes no sense....if the death of Superman still occured, yet Clark was never involved in a relationship with Lois Lane, then how do you explain all of the touchy moments they had in that story? Supergirl's past has been retconned out and restarted as well. Why does Superboy get to keep his whole history?

As for Batman...well, he's always kept his history during these reboots, and his whole concept as an urban myth allows him to have more than five years of existence in the public eye, so just ignore all the cosmic stuff Morrison put him through and he's fine.

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 864881)
I'd even bet the erasure of the marriage is also to do with the fact that may have to eliminate a love interest named "Lois" altogether.

Which also explains why the new continuity has Lois admit she can't get close to Clark at all and is with a new boyfriend right off the bat...she's also working in a much higher posistion than Clark in the Daily Planet, so they'll be connected less.

ToTheNines 07-23-2011 03:23 PM

This all sounds like garbage. A friend of mine told me Wally West is gone now, too... is that bull **** true?

Venom 07-23-2011 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 865330)
This all sounds like garbage. A friend of mine told me Wally West is gone now, too... is that bull **** true?

Short answer without being convoluted: yes. It's Barry. Kid Flash is Bart.

Leo656 07-24-2011 01:59 AM

Way to erase EVERYTHING I grew up reading, DC. I grew up with Wally as The Flash. He's been around since the 60s or some sh*t, it's not like they're wiping out tiny little pieces of history.

This ALL sounds like sh*t. I've reserved the first few issues of a few just to see how I like it, but the more I hear the more it seems likely I'm going to focus my collecting on the rest of the DCU stuff published from the 80s until the end of Flashpoint. Since the New Universe will have no resemblance to what I grew up on and invested thousands of dollars and years of my life to, it seems to make more sense to collect the stuff I liked and let that be "my DCU," especially since that universe now has a decisive beginning in 1986, a middle, and now, with Flashpoint, the end.

Ugh, it finally happened. I'm one of those cranky old bastards who quit reading comics forever after Crisis On Infinite Earths. I hope that slipping sales force them to "Un-Flashpoint" everything back to what it was within a year. The last few years of DC books were amazing; why ruin it just because a few snot-nosed punks can't get into the mythology?

Having the past few years of books from Identity Crisis through Blackest Night be so amazing, then having this happen... it's like 3 hours of amazing sex and then popping a bloody wad at the end. To wit: confusing and horrifying.

ZariusTwo 07-24-2011 05:57 AM

Apparently D.C discussed the possibility of ending the current continuity with special "finale" type storys (like "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tommorow") but decided against it because they didnt want to cheat the reader:roll:

At least when BND began, Marvel gave their fans decent jumping-off points with "Mr and Mrs Spider-Man", Spider-Girl, and Matt Fraction's "To Have and To Hold"...here D.C arent giving us anything

For me, I'll just accept DeFalco's upcoming Superman Beyond one-shot as the "finale" for the present Superman continuity, same as Batman Beyond serves as the definitive future for Bruce.


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