Are there any gay characters in the TMNT franchise?
 

This was brought up in the comic section, but I am bringing it up here too. Out of the 25 years of TMNT history, have there ever been any confirmed gay/lesbian characters in any TMNT history?

I know some people think of Vernon, but I always assumed he was based on the straight, wimpy man who was always a coward.

Well, it's not like sexuality ever had a big place in any TMNT universe. Most of the characters seem kinda asexual :P

He comes off to me as someone who is kind of a womanizer. I remember in "Donatello's Degree" we asks April for mouth to mouth resuscitation, with the intention of getting a kiss.

Doesn't he flirt/harass her some other times throughout the series? I cant remember everything from every episode.

Then, what kind of a fan are you? :P

Not a TRUE fan, that's for sure.

:D You know I kid, X.

Vernon's definitely not gay. Like I said in the other thread though, Agent Bishop might be.

What is the basis for this claim though?

Seriously? I can think of several just off the top of my head. April and Casey, Raph and Ninjara, etc... and Michelangelo develops feelings for girls in just about EVERY TMNT universe.

But neither romance nor sex is a huge driving factor in the overall plot line of the series.

Certainly there is a little of both, but it's the exception more then the rule.

And a lot of the characters do seem kind of asexual, the Utroms come to mind (not that I personally would really want to think about how they breed). Leatherhead, Fugitoid (I know he's a robot, but he was a man once and still probably thinks like one) Nobody.... I mean I could go on. All characters I have never seen presented in any sort of romantic or sexual way.

Well I was just mentally sifting through all the TMNT characters, and my gaydar kinda went off when I thought about Bishop. I tried picturing him with a wife, didn't seem right. Tried picturing him with a domestic partner, seemed plausible.

i kinda see him raping leatherhead actually.

I have "gaydar" too, and now that you guys mention it, I'm open to the possibility of him being gay...he does seem to have a weird fascination with Leatherhead.

Not that it really matters one bit to me what Bishop's sexual orientation is their is also the possibility that much like Ahab in Moby Dick he is just so obsessed with his personal "white whale" that everything else in his life means little or nothing to him.

Look at his friend he turned into a monster in Dragon's Brew. He was the best man in the guys wedding and still gave absolutely no regard to destroying his life when it bettered his personal agenda.

Ok, that's five characters. And the other 247 (or whatever)?

I'm not saying that sex and romance weren't there, it was just never a big part of it.

But now I truly hope for at least one gay character in the new comics :P

Well his sexuality doesn't really matter except in the sense that that's kinda the point of this thread :tlol: But I agree with you, the Ahab comparison is more or less valid. :twink:

Pink uniform & sissy attitude. By the "sissy" aspect, this means that Frasier & Niles Crane are both gay despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, but it's more of a "you ain't a man unless you're a macho idiot" sort of misconception.

Everybody knows its Raph/Leo, so many fanfics/fanart can't be wrong.

Since when does Bishop have time for love? He's a crazy bastard dedicated to his work.

You guys are messed up.

Ok I got it double wammy, the punk frogs are gay and practice incest or they could jst be a sexaul;)
lol this is really messed up talking about character sexuality on a kids/teen franchise

That's not even funny, just gross. Whyyyyy would you go there?!

Can't frogs change gender when they don't have viable breeding options?? Isn't that what happened to the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park because they used frog DNA??

:tlol:

This has to be one of the weirdest topics we have had on here in a while!

I've never really noticed any characters that came off as gay in any of the TMNT stories I've been exposed to. Vernon, maybe, but I do seem to remember him having the hots for a woman in an episode.

To be honest, I'm glad TMNT hasn't gone the route of contrived by introducing a gay character. It's really become a cliche at this point.

If anyone is gay it is Erma. She seems to fail with the guys too much.

Yep, certain frogs though, because of the amphibian DNA.

Yep, failure with men = lesbian. WHAT!?

Yep she should just quit and move on. She's not foolin anyone. No one talks about men that much, whats she hiding?:P

But seriously, no one is gay unless they say they're gay. It's TMNT and everything that has come out of it that wasn't comics is practically made for children. We're going a little too deep into this.

Everyone's missing the obvious here.

OT Krang and Shredder.

LOL! The old married couple with slow children aka Bebop and Rocksteady.

Fair enough, though you have to admit that Vernon seems to be somewhat of a walking stereotype. Even his voice seems to have some flamboyancy to it.

Still, I do think he's shown interest in women. But I do feel like his appearance, attitude, and the way he talks seem to do a number on my gaydar. It's all based on social stereotypes, though, I'll admit.

I do remember that, as a kid, Vernon always reminded me of Vanity Smurf... who also was never actually stated as being gay or not (though sexual orientation never comes up in kid's shows), and I do remember him having a fascination with Smurfette at least once.

Hmmm... perhaps I may need to re-assess my perception of overly effeminate, narcissistic males.

Which is kind of funny, because his voice in the first two (?) episodes sounds a little more masculine.

Pizza is obviously a phallic symbol. So i would say Mikey.

Oh yeah? Well, your dinner is a phallic symbol, you homo sapien! :x

If you guys really want gayness in TMNT, go to fanfiction.net! There's plenty to go around! :tlol:

Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuu thank you. I made the mistake of thinking Slash would actually be about the character. :dead:

This topic is just...wow. No one in the OT was gay or was ever intended to be. They would not, probably could not, put a gay character in a popular Saturday morning kids cartoon. Not in the 90's. I don't even think there's gay characters in kids series present day. They come under enough fire from people who think characters are gay. Remember that stupid Sponge Bob Patrick thing?

As for the comics I can't say. Probably depends on the writer. I could easily see a character like Shadow experimenting in her rebellious teenage years but other then her no one really strikes me that way. As others have said it's not really addressed in the books, and doesn't need to be honestly. Unless it's essential to the plot a characters sexual orientation isn't necessary information.

Remember how morons used to say OT Don was gay because he was too smart to be straight or some such idiocy? :lol: Those were certainly some 'tards.

Yeah. I remember one of the main arguments is that Don never had a girl he was into like the other turtles did. I could honestly careless if he, or any characters, are gay but unless there's some proof it's stupid to mark them as such.

Well in the Nick cartoon, they already confirmed Don has a crush on April. So Don likes girls.

Nah. Don just wants to use April as a guinea pig. That's his only interest.

I do not associate any of the TMNT with sexuality. They're freaken reptiles. I see them as heroes who kick ass and will never picture them having a sex life. It's just wrong and it's not important.