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ZariusTwo 08-02-2011 06:23 AM

The New Ultimate Spider-Man Is...
 
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/...ider-man_n.htm

Black and hispanic. Got their bases covered don't they?

Jester 08-02-2011 08:42 AM

Is it odd that I think Miles kinda looks like a certain half-black public figure?

Slap-Happy 08-02-2011 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 867539)
Is it odd that I think Miles kinda looks like a certain half-black public figure?

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...ne-johnson.jpg

I don't see it.

Revan 08-02-2011 09:01 AM

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...iderman-01.jpg

Slap-Happy 08-02-2011 09:03 AM

I know. I was trying to make a funny. Guess it didnt work. :(

Jester 08-02-2011 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Chicken Whisperer (Post 867547)
I know. I was trying to make a funny. Guess it didnt work. :(

I thought it was funny....:P

Revan 08-02-2011 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chicken Whisperer (Post 867547)
I know. I was trying to make a funny. Guess it didnt work. :(

You know what?

I thought it was funny too:D

Ninjinister 08-02-2011 11:07 AM

So that is who it is. I saw the entry for this character this morning on the Marvel Wiki with just that picture and the character's name, no context at all. It didn't even list "Spider-Man" has his alter ego.

Spitfire 08-02-2011 11:11 AM

It's this, and the reason is really stupid.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/...n-inside_n.htm

Jester 08-02-2011 11:18 AM

INACCURACY!!!
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But only Peter Parker ever crawled on walls and strapped on web shooters as Marvel's signature superhero.
What about Ben Reily?

Wait...he was a clone of Peter...

Ninjinister 08-02-2011 12:44 PM

Not to mention most of these guys (that weren't just one shot impostors):

http://marvel.wikia.com/Spider-Man#Others

Candy Kappa 08-02-2011 03:02 PM

I thought The Spider was gonna be the new Spider-Man (Peter & Xavier clone)

Spitfire 08-02-2011 03:04 PM

Or why not Ben. Though I guess that'd be too obvious right? It's not like he doesn't have a sample of Peter's blood, he's African American too.

Ninjinister 08-03-2011 08:18 PM

Yeah, I would have guessed that they would have used someone who already was around anyway, like Ben. I haven't read the issue yet (still in the "to-read" pile as I've not been home from the shop long), so there may be some sort of reasoning for it.

I also don't follow Ultimate so there's also that....

Raph's Girl 08-03-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 867526)
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/...ider-man_n.htm

Black and hispanic. Got their bases covered don't they?

And I heard that he could also possibly be gay. *lol*

Jester 08-04-2011 12:08 PM

Now it just seems like they're doing this to do it. I mean, do we really care that Spider-man is 1/2 black, 1/2 Hispanic, and possibly gay? That's not what makes a character. I mean, when I tell people about me I don't immediately say I'm a straight guy of Scotch-Irish decent. It's a part of me, but it doesn't define me.

Logan 08-04-2011 12:14 PM

The whole thing seems rather contrived to me. But it's the Ultimate line, so I'm not too concerned about it. More than likely Peter is going to come back, anyway.

ZariusTwo 08-06-2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 867947)
The whole thing seems rather contrived to me. But it's the Ultimate line, so I'm not too concerned about it. More than likely Peter is going to come back, anyway.

I know...and the sad thing is, just as they kill off Peter, they bring back The Scarlet Witch (who was also supposed to be dead in the Ultimate Universe), so that blows any realism out of this whole deal already.

Mr._Mutant_Man 08-06-2011 05:28 PM

Seems like an obvious publicity stunt. There are times when diversity has been added to comics and has been a natural progression in the story. These just seems like Marvel wants to go, "hey look! We're being PC and progressive!"

The Stryker 08-06-2011 07:02 PM

It seems like the media is saying that more than the people behind the book.

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 867946)
Now it just seems like they're doing this to do it. I mean, do we really care that Spider-man is 1/2 black, 1/2 Hispanic, and possibly gay? That's not what makes a character. I mean, when I tell people about me I don't immediately say I'm a straight guy of Scotch-Irish decent. It's a part of me, but it doesn't define me.

Did the character say anything like that? Were the first words out of his mouth "Yo. I love me some hip hop and muh-fugging tacos! I'm half black and half hispanic by the way." It is a progression of the story for now at least.

How about we give it a couple of months. Time for the character to do something...ANYTHING.

Katie 08-06-2011 07:30 PM

If it doesn't matter what his ethnicity is....why did anyone bring it up at all? And seriously? You're LOL he's gay too maybe!!11! What is this? Middle school? What's next? Bashing people in secret?

Revan 08-06-2011 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Katie
If it doesn't matter what his ethnicity is....why did anyone bring it up at all? And seriously? You're LOL he's gay too maybe!!11! What is this? Middle school? What's next? Bashing people in secret?

Does it get cold in your glass house?

The Stryker 08-06-2011 08:01 PM

Good comeback that doesn't make any sense Revan.

I think I might like Black Spider-man if he talks about Run DMC and wears a web kangol hat.

Jester 08-06-2011 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 868276)
Did the character say anything like that? Were the first words out of his mouth "Yo. I love me some hip hop and muh-fugging tacos! I'm half black and half hispanic by the way." It is a progression of the story for now at least.

True, Miles didn't say anything like that, but do we get any other description of who he is? I mean there are other characteristic that could define him other than his skin tone and sexual orientation.

But then again as you said, it's more the media making a big deal out of it. In this world, why is it still a big deal that Spider-man is 1/2 black, 1/2 Hispanic, and possibly gay? Anyone, whatever their race, can be a superhero...if endowed with superpowers, that is.

The Stryker 08-06-2011 08:06 PM

He hasn't been around long enough to have a character. Give it 3 or 4 issues and we'll see something form.

Jester 08-06-2011 08:27 PM

True...and even established characters change over the course of time (and more often writers.)

Voltron 08-06-2011 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 868276)
Did the character say anything like that? Were the first words out of his mouth "Yo. I love me some hip hop and muh-fugging tacos! I'm half black and half hispanic by the way." It is a progression of the story for now at least.

How about we give it a couple of months. Time for the character to do something...ANYTHING.

Actually, he said "AWWWW YEAH, I'S BE BICURIOUS, ESE! CAN I GET A WHA-WHAT?!"

Then he shot his web shooters side ways. And instead of pulling in his middle and ring fingers, he gave elaborate gang signs.

Peanut 08-06-2011 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire (Post 867559)
It's this, and the reason is really stupid.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/...n-inside_n.htm

Ugh. Seriously? You know, if everyone is constantly fighting for f*cking equality, why the hell does seeing a black dude in Spider-Man pajamas make him want to "read that story"? Isn't he just a DUDE? Spider-Man is already a f*cking dude! Is a black person not just another person!?

I'll never understand how people think the act of segregating races by pointing out that we're not all the same leads to f*cking equality. TREAT US THE SAME, BUT ALSO TREAT US DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE WE'RE DIFFERENT! BROTHER CAN'T BE SPIDER-MAN?

F*ck off.

If the reason were "Well, Peter Parker is dead and this guy is just another dude who can be Spider-Man." COOL! Yes! He happens to be a different race from Peter Parker? Sure, it's believable because not everyone is f*cking white, but the fact that making him a different race was done just so they can say "He's black now and this gives us new opportunities to prove we're not racist." is the worst f*cking reason eeeeever.


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