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Coprophagous Beauty 09-12-2011 04:49 PM

The sexual orientation of the TMNT
 
I wonder to whom feel the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles sexually attracted? Would they prefer turtles (Red-eared Sliders) because originally they were turtles, too? Or are they so humanized that they prefer humans? They grown up in a civilized environment surrounded by humans that reminds me of sheepdogs who are born in a sheep barn. These dogs think they are sheeps and also fall in love with sheeps *aww cute!*.

BUT the turtles know that they are no humans!

When you leave aside Venus de Milo and Ninjara and imagine there would be only one beautiful mutated Turtle-girl. What do you think which couple is most likely?

For me Leonardo was always like an ascetic monk. He follows the way of Bushido, he is a true warrior and the leader - he has no interest in a physical relationship.... (a real fighting-nerd (I mean that as a compliment ;))

Michelangelo's more like Don Juan. He might have a short relationship with her ​​but nothing serious. Mike is the only one I could imagine to be gay.

Donatello is probably shy and reserved in such matters. But in a relationship he would be certainly very loving and loyal. Maybe he is like the classical loser - it's a long hard way but at the end he get the girl.

Raphael is a very difficult character. He needs a girl with a very strong character. Her physical appearance doesn't matter. All that matters for him is true love. He is the only one I could imagine a relationship between turtle and human.

But what do you think about a relationship between a turtle and a human - is this zoophilia?

Now I've written a lot - so what do YOU think about all that?


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LeoNerdo 09-12-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Coprophagous Beauty (Post 875492)

Now I've written a lot - so what do YOU think about all that?


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Wat.... I try to not think about this. Ever.

Powder 09-12-2011 04:56 PM

tlac;dr

(Too long and creepy; didn't read)

Andrew NDB 09-12-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coprophagous Beauty (Post 875492)
These dogs think they are sheeps and also fall in love with sheeps *aww cute!*.

I don't think sheepdogs understand the concept of love or the falling in of it.

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Michelangelo's more like Don Juan. He might have a short relationship with her ​​but nothing serious. Mike is the only one I could imagine to be gay.
That's pretty weird. In the source material Mike is the only Turtle to have had two long-term girlfriends and even became a father.

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Raffael is a very difficult character. He needs a girl with a very strong character. Her physical appearance doesn't matter. All that matters for him is true love.
I can think of quite a few things that matter to Raphael more than "true love." In fact, I can't think of a single time I've ever seen Raphael pining over anyone in the source material or otherwise. Any idea of him doing so would just be a fanfiction.

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He is the only one I could imagine a relationship between turtle and human.

But what do you think about a relationship between a turtle and a human - is this zoophilia?
Yeah.

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Now I've written a lot - so what do YOU think about all that?
I think that while they may have experienced in one way or another enough pop culture to kind of see human ladies and go in some kind of casual way, "Oh, she's hot!" I see nothing in the source material (albeit, Leonardo in the future) to conclude they're attracted to or would pursue any human females.

Coprophagous Beauty 09-12-2011 05:12 PM

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In the source material Mike is the only Turtle to have had two long-term girlfriends and even became a father.
I didn't know that - where can I read it?

And yes you are right the text about Raphael sounds very superficially. But I mean he has the potential for the most interesting love story (ok maybe I'm not impartial)

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Source material = the comics.
Already clear that's why I wrote "read".
Perhaps a bit more precise - which comic issue?

Powder 09-12-2011 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coprophagous Beauty (Post 875498)
I didn't know that - where can I read it?

Source material = the comics.

Bauer536 09-12-2011 05:28 PM

This is how I see it.

Leo is the guy who gets girls that turn out to cheat on him, betray him, or killed by the enemy. Forget Karai. She may be one of those, or all. Hopefully, I believe he'll find someone. Imagine, just after rescuing a beautiful brunette, they fall in love and get married. Too bad they can't have sex. Even though he's not human, I bet he doesn't believe in sex before marriage. He's patient to wait for his future wife.

Don is the guy that gets girls, but has a problem communicating to them. Girls may give up on him, making boys trying to hit on him. That would be a nightmare for him. Then eventually he'll meet this new female employee. After a year of rubbing heads, they'll fall in love and then get married. Again, I don't think he'd support sex before marriage.

Mikey is a ladies man, however, constantly finds new girls to date. Who knows when he'll find the right person, but he may be just riding solo on this one. Maybe a cute blonde chick would work, one that's into comedy and pop culture (even ninjas). He may wish for sex, but he knows he can't do it, nor does he want to try it at all.

Raph may find a girl from another planet. Yes, maybe an alien. I won't say he'll move up with her in space, but that they'll marry and still live in good old NYC. Who knows? I could see Raph wanting to have sex, but he'll realize he won't be able to. If he could, he wouldn't wait 'til marriage, he'd probably do it before the wedding.

Andrew NDB 09-12-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bauer536 (Post 875501)
This is how I see it.

Leo is the guy who gets girls that turn out to cheat on him, betray him, or killed by the enemy. Forget Karai.

What on earth are you talking about?

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She may be one of those, or all. Hopefully, I believe he'll find someone. Imagine, just after rescuing a beautiful brunette, they fall in love and get married. Too bad they can't have sex. Even though he's not human, I bet he doesn't believe in sex before marriage. He's patient to wait for his future wife.
Sadly Leonardo falling in love with a human (albeit, a mutant human -- Radical) IS supported by the source material.

Though I tend to believe Leonardo was tappin' dat ass, marriage or no marriage.

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Don is the guy that gets girls
No he's not.

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but has a problem communicating to them. Girls may give up on him, making boys trying to hit on him. That would be a nightmare for him. Then eventually he'll meet this new female employee. After a year of rubbing heads, they'll fall in love and then get married. Again, I don't think he'd support sex before marriage.
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Mikey is a ladies man, however, constantly finds new girls to date. Who knows when he'll find the right person, but he may be just riding solo on this one. Maybe a cute blonde chick would work, one that's into comedy and pop culture (even ninjas). He may wish for sex, but he knows he can't do it
What do you mean? He's had sex before -- he's had children in the source material... we can readily quantify this, folks, it's not up for debate.

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Raph may find a girl from another planet. Yes, maybe an alien. I won't say he'll move up with her in space, but that they'll marry and still live in good old NYC. Who knows? I could see Raph wanting to have sex, but he'll realize he won't be able to. If he could, he wouldn't wait 'til marriage, he'd probably do it before the wedding.
I don't think any of the Turtles would be overly concerned with human institutions like marriage. They aren't part of mankind.

Xav 09-12-2011 05:41 PM

How did Mike have children? Was there a female turtle in the mirage comics?

Andrew NDB 09-12-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 875504)
How did Mike have children?

He had sex. With a female member of kind of a splinter race of the Triceratons.

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Was there a female turtle in the mirage comics?
No.

Toby Barrett 09-12-2011 05:45 PM

The floozy was obviously already knocked up before she met Mikey. =p

Andrew NDB 09-12-2011 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Barrett (Post 875506)
The floozy was obviously already knocked up before she met Mikey. =p

It's possible, though unfortunately we may never know. In-story, however, we're presented with a timeline of events:

Regenta and Michelangelo fall in love => They have sex => She gives birth to a bunch of eggs => She tells him he's the dad.

Was she lying? Maybe, but the way the story is left there's nothing to conclude that she was.

Logan 09-12-2011 05:57 PM

Besides the Leo/Radical romance, there is constant reference to Pimiko being a "ninja babe". Most people don't use the word "babe" unless they're expressing some attraction to said person. I seem to remember one of the turtles thinking that April was hot, too. Can't recollect what issue or turtle, though.

Mikey was involved with two aliens, one in the Image series and then another in Vol. 4.

Toby Barrett 09-12-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 875507)
It's possible, though unfortunately we may never know. In-story, however, we're presented with a timeline of events:

Regenta and Michelangelo fall in love => They have sex => She gives birth to a bunch of eggs => She tells him he's the dad.

Was she lying? Maybe, but the way the story is left there's nothing to conclude that she was.

I dunno. Laying eggs after only one night seems a bit too contrived to me.

Jester 09-12-2011 06:17 PM

I agree, I think she was setting Mikey up.

As for the whole issue...I agree with Peter (who isn't very thrilled with the Leo/Radical issue of Tales.) that the Turtles really don't need sexual relationships...

Andrew NDB 09-12-2011 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Barrett (Post 875513)
I dunno. Laying eggs after only one night seems a bit too contrived to me.

A good, long passage of time was implied within there.

In any case, the point is: "Has Mikey ever had sex?" Yes, yes he has. If he had not, why would he be the least bit worried about whether or not he was the father?

BentonGrey 09-12-2011 06:39 PM

Wow........yeah, that's just too weird. I'm with Jester, and via him Peter. That doesn't really need to be explored.

PAAATE 09-12-2011 06:42 PM

Saw the thread title, and had to read this. Just wanted all of you to know that this made my utterly boring night a little better :P

Weapons@theready 09-12-2011 06:54 PM

Isn't there a "comic" the explores this more in depth:lol:

Bauer536 09-12-2011 07:04 PM

Okay. I don't think this my thread. Sorry. This is just becoming a tad bit disgusting.:toops:

Jester 09-12-2011 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Weapons@theready (Post 875548)
Isn't there a "comic" the explores this more in depth:lol:

You might ask Stephan about that...;)

gobo 09-12-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coprophagous Beauty
The sexual orientation of the TMNT

>_< :roll:

Jester 09-12-2011 07:32 PM

I wonder if any of them eat poop?

Katie 09-12-2011 08:50 PM

I think the only people who wonder if the turtles have sex are people who secretly wish to have sex with them....or maybe not so secretly.


Gross.


Who needs a not so real turtle when you have a real guy?

Oh wait....

Cryomancer 09-12-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 875557)
I wonder if any of them eat poop?

Probably indirectly, they do tend to live in sewers and all.

Luzmagica 09-13-2011 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Katie (Post 875576)
I think the only people who wonder if the turtles have sex are people who secretly wish to have sex with them....or maybe not so secretly.

............


I use to be agree with you most times...but not in this case...
In my opinion ...I think the eagerness to match the turtles is an attempt to preserve them in the future ... after all 4 males alone are destined to disappear (battle, suicide, illness, accident or old age), I think it's also an attempt to give them "normal" happiness in their lives .... Within the basic framework of: birth, grow, procreate and die ....
I think it's more common in this case ... :)

Xav 09-13-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Weapons@theready (Post 875548)
Isn't there a "comic" the explores this more in depth:lol:

Ah you mean this?
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=29174

Coola Yagami 09-13-2011 10:03 PM

I believe the Turtles have their desires, and as Leo prooved, in a world where humans are the majority, sooner or later they'd get with one, if they were to get with someone at all. IMO they just don't focus so much on romance/sex because their lives and focus is on that. Splinter raised them to be ninjas and assassins towards Saki and the Foot... not playas. Leo became bushido-obsessed, Don is all about science and Raph is a berserker. Of the 4, Mikey was the one with the more-human desires and the need to fit into society, hence his stint as a writer and wanting his stuff published, and basically wanting to fit in with humans more than the other 3. It was more natural that he got some action by Vol. 4.

I can almost imagine the turtles reunited after the vol. 4 mess ended and one of em asking Mike. "so..... the dino-chick..... how was it?"

Candy Kappa 09-14-2011 07:13 PM

I'm sure had it not been for the whole Children's show thingie, Fred Wolf Donny would probably have replicated the mutagen and bought a bunch of female res and...

... cruising down creepy street, always.

Spitfire 09-14-2011 07:20 PM

Why is it this has to come up every few months? The turtles aren't gay and they're never going to bone humans outside of horridly written fan fiction. You're into that there's tons of unlicensed TMNT Yaoi all over Ebay you can read in private. There's even Fast Forward Yaoi...WTF!?!?!

Candy Kappa 09-14-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire (Post 875956)
There's even Fast Forward Yaoi...WTF!?!?!

is there less quality in the Fast Forward Yaoi then the regular?


wonder if these thread would pop up if this was a Transformers Forum? :P

Spitfire 09-14-2011 07:24 PM

It looks like they turn into generic anime humans some how and we can only guess what that leads to.

gobo 09-14-2011 07:24 PM

What's yaoi?

Candy Kappa 09-14-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 875961)
What's yaoi?

The evil monsters under ya bed, imported from Japan

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Originally Posted by Spitfire (Post 875960)
It looks like they turn into generic anime humans some how and we can only guess what that leads to.

That just seems like cheating

Spitfire 09-14-2011 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 875961)
What's yaoi?

It basically means "boy love". In this case it's all the turtles getting it on with each other...the question of why it was made is only out weighed by the question of how it got published. There's a bunch of it on Ebay which has been up for awhile. The prices keep going up on it too, must be running low on copies! Better get them now before they sell out.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Teenage-Muta...item53e4fe794d

Apparently they use words like "Soft" and "Hard" to describe the Yaoi. This book is "Not Soft", in all caps mind. I guess that translates to hardcore. Ew.

gobo 09-14-2011 07:30 PM

Oh... Turtlecest... Do not want.

LotusBlossom 09-23-2011 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Coprophagous Beauty (Post 875492)
Mike is the only one I could imagine to be gay.


That is so bizarre! Because to me, he seems to be easily the LEAST likely one to be "that way". (With Leo probably the most likely.)

At any rate ... you know who is DEFINITELY gay?

Vernon Fenwick.

Oh, and obviously that Truman Capote-type guy from the Flower Society, also (in "Raphael versus the Volcano"). Plus (probably) Baxter Stockman. And maybe even Don Turtelli as well.

Man, now that I think about it, the OT was, like, practically dripping in homo-eroticism!

Bauer536 09-23-2011 01:47 PM

I said I wasn't coming back to this discussion, but I just have to say this:

Leonardo may be a ninja, a leader, and a goody-two shoes, but he is NOT gay!:tmad: It upsets me when someone calls any of the turtles homosexual because there is no clear evidence saying that the turtles are gay. I'm sorry. Also, this should be a thread about them getting girls, not about doing girls. This disgusts me. I don't care if sex sells. This thread should be locked.:tmad:

jaymq 09-23-2011 02:41 PM

"ewewew"... wow, sometimes I wonder how some people survive preschool cooties.

Andrew NDB 09-23-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bauer536 (Post 877803)
It upsets me when someone calls any of the turtles homosexual because there is no clear evidence saying that the turtles are gay.

There's not even circumstancial evidence.


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