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CyberCubed 09-15-2011 01:01 AM

Why did they animate Wyrm only for a toy commercial?
 
Wyrm never appear in the OT but they animated his design for the Playmates toy ad:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Kk8Rrte5rf...mmercial01.jpg


Why go through the trouble of creating an animated design for him if he wasn't going to appear?

Do you think its possible some episode featuring Wyrm (and possibly Scumbug's first appearance), was in the cards but for some reason got canceled?

pannoni1 09-15-2011 09:22 AM

He was probably overlooked unfortunately by the writers/staff. He looks like a good threat for the turtles that would have been a great character for a non-Shredder CBS episode. Those teeth look wretched and vile! I definately would have had him over one of those lame Mad Scientist episodes. That hammer really could have done some major damage to anyone!

gobo 09-15-2011 10:52 AM

I always figured he was in one of those 5 skipped production #s I conspiracy theorized about way back.

sdp 09-15-2011 11:36 AM

I remember that thread gobo mentions. I don't know though his character design in that commercial looks pretty umm cheap for lack of a better word while the others look like on the show so they probably only made him for the commercial to sell toys and playmates paid for it.

Regardless I consider those few seconds of Wyrm to be canon in the OT and the turtles did face him.

Logan 09-15-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 876078)
Regardless I consider those few seconds of Wyrm to be canon in the OT and the turtles did face him.

I can't tell if you're being serious or not, but this elicited a chuckle from me.

Powder 09-15-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 876068)
I always figured he was in one of those 5 skipped production #s I conspiracy theorized about way back.

This/that.

hudemx 09-15-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 876068)
I always figured he was in one of those 5 skipped production #s I conspiracy theorized about way back.

I would love to read about that, mind to share a link?

gobo 09-15-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hudemx (Post 876106)
I would love to read about that, mind to share a link?

5 missing old tmnt toon episodes? EXPLAINED
I'm kinda surprised it's still around. ^_^

Galactus 09-15-2011 02:36 PM

My personal theory is that it was an episode that was partialy animated but ended up being scrapped.

I believe the same would be true of Scumbug, when he appeared in Night Of Rogues it was like he'd fought the T's before. I bet he was supposed to appear in an ep that was scrapped but David Wise thought it was made.

CyberCubed 09-15-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 876114)
My personal theory is that it was an episode that was partialy animated but ended up being scrapped.

I believe the same would be true of Scumbug, when he appeared in Night Of Rogues it was like he'd fought the T's before. I bet he was supposed to appear in an ep that was scrapped but David Wise thought it was made.

So Wyrm and Scumbug were possibly introduced in the same episode? Would make sense as they're both bugs.

Antrax on the other hand was clearly from Dimension X, given he introduced himself in said episode.

gobo 09-15-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 876117)
Antrax on the other hand was clearly from Dimension X, given he introduced himself in said episode.

That, and Krang introed him as his personal executioner from Dimension X. :P

CyberCubed 09-15-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 876123)
That, and Krang introed him as his personal executioner from Dimension X. :P

Actually Shredder did, I just watched the episode yesterday. :p

hudemx 09-15-2011 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 876107)
5 missing old tmnt toon episodes? EXPLAINED
I'm kinda surprised it's still around. ^_^

Well, thank you Sir! 8)

gobo 09-15-2011 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 876142)
Actually Shredder did, I just watched the episode yesterday. :p

Schooled by CyberCubed... How humiliating... :P

CyberCubed 09-15-2011 09:58 PM

I really wish both Wyrm and Pizzaface got at least one episode in the OT.

I mean it was really random when Mutagen Man and Muckman/Joeeyeball got one-shot episodes, wasn't it? I wish Wyrm and Pizzaface got 1 episode too.

Thankfully we were spared from:

- Hotspot
- Scratch (I only like his character in toy form)
- Halfcourt
- Sandstorm
- Monty Moose
- King Lionheart
- Doctor El


Also, does anyone think Dr. Cobrato from the episode "Snakes Alive" was sort of based on Scale Tail?

gobo 09-15-2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 876247)
Also, does anyone think Dr. Cobrato from the episode "Snakes Alive" was sort of based on Scale Tail?

When I was watching that ep for the first time, I specifically remember expecting it to be that snake mutant they had recently made a figure for. When it turned out to be a generic snake-man, I figured it was probably for the best as the ep sucked anyway.

CyberCubed 09-15-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 876260)
When I was watching that ep for the first time, I specifically remember expecting it to be that snake mutant they had recently made a figure for. When it turned out to be a generic snake-man, I figured it was probably for the best as the ep sucked anyway.

The ep sucked? I thought it was great.

gobo 09-15-2011 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 876263)
The ep sucked? I thought it was great.

Leonardo conveniently having a crippling fear of snakes that was never apparent in the least before just kinda tainted the whole ep for me. I despise plug & play plots.

CyberCubed 09-15-2011 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 876265)
Leonardo conveniently having a crippling fear of snakes that was never apparent in the least before just kinda tainted the whole ep for me. I despise plug & play plots.

I can't recall the turtles ever coming across snakes before said episode. It was fear not brought up.

sdp 09-16-2011 11:15 PM

Doctor El, Scratch and Sandstorm weren't too bad to not deserve an episode, definitely better than random mad scientist of the week or yet another Shredder/Krang recycled plot. And god I am glad Pizzaface didn't make it in an episode, I hated that figure I don't even know why I owned it, what possible story could you come up with that character? The OT equivalent of Garbageman.

Galactus 09-18-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 876267)
I can't recall the turtles ever coming across snakes before said episode. It was fear not brought up.

Surely you remember The Incredible Shrinking Turtles.

Then again I guess Leo forgot how he was the only one seemingly not scared of the sewer snake and fought it off.

Donnie 09-18-2011 11:47 PM

Wyrm & Scumbug were both fought by Donatello & Raphael in an issue of Archie Adventures. I suppose that was after Wyrm's toy design, however. I'm not sure.

Jester 09-19-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DonnyTMNT (Post 876885)
Wyrm & Scumbug were both fought by Donatello & Raphael in an issue of Archie Adventures. I suppose that was after Wyrm's toy design, however. I'm not sure.

Well after. Scumbug and Wyrm appeared together earlier in the series too, I think right after the first Codename: Chameleon story. In fact, they (Scumbug and Wyrm and Chameleon) seem to be back to back both times they appear.

CyberCubed 09-19-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DonnyTMNT (Post 876885)
Wyrm & Scumbug were both fought by Donatello & Raphael in an issue of Archie Adventures. I suppose that was after Wyrm's toy design, however. I'm not sure.

Wyrm was all yellow in the Archie series, so his design here is more based on the toy.

Would make sense, given this clip is from a Playmates toy commercial.

Donnie 09-19-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 876887)
Well after. Scumbug and Wyrm appeared together earlier in the series too, I think right after the first Codename: Chameleon story. In fact, they (Scumbug and Wyrm and Chameleon) seem to be back to back both times they appear.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 876888)
Wyrm was all yellow in the Archie series, so his design here is more based on the toy.

Would make sense, given this clip is from a Playmates toy commercial.

AhHA! Thanks.

cryan 09-19-2011 01:54 PM

I was always curious if Mona Lisa ever made it into the comercials?The thing with the Wyrm is that he didn't appear in the series.I do remember him from the Archie comics though.Interesting he was animated for the Playmates ad.

Stingray69 09-19-2011 02:39 PM

Does any one have the video of this?

tone-master21 09-19-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stingray69 (Post 876959)
Does any one have the video of this?

Here you go:


Jester 09-19-2011 06:22 PM

Seems all the animation of the characters (3 of the four appear in Planet of the Turtleoid) is new stuff, not recycled from an episode. Maybe Wyrm may have just never got an episode.

CyberCubed 09-19-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 877023)
Seems all the animation of the characters (3 of the four appear in Planet of the Turtleoid) is new stuff, not recycled from an episode. Maybe Wyrm may have just never got an episode.

Or maybe he was supposed to get an appearance but it was scraped.

Surprised he had a voice too in the video, which makes me think it might be from some ep canceled in mid-production.

Stingray69 09-20-2011 01:04 PM

Thanks for the video post. Does any one else like the way they say teenage mutant ninja turtles at the end or is it just me?

gobo 09-20-2011 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Stingray69 (Post 877150)
Does any one else like the way they say teenage mutant ninja turtles at the end or is it just me?

Always loved it. ^_^

sdp 06-21-2021 09:39 PM

Scumbug's reference to fighting the turtles was just thrown in there to make it seem as if he had some history not referencing to any actual lost episode.
Same with Wyrm, he's off model and cheap looking while the characters who actually appeared on the show look much better, clearly he was made only for the commercial and since it was 3 seconds of animation no one cared to put too much detail on that character. There is no lost Wyrm episode.

I'm surprised hot head never got an episode though, he seemed like a cool character.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 876247)
I really wish both Wyrm and Pizzaface got at least one episode in the OT.

Thankfully we were spared from:

- Hotspot
- Scratch (I only like his character in toy form)
- Halfcourt
- Sandstorm
- Monty Moose
- King Lionheart
- Doctor El


Also, does anyone think Dr. Cobrato from the episode "Snakes Alive" was sort of based on Scale Tail?

I thought Dr Cobrato WAS scale tail.

Pizzaface is an awful character, unsure why I had that toy as a kid.
Scratch would've just been an OT version of old hob. I really wish Rise had used hotspot, sandstorm, mony moose, lionheart and doctor el (well that one would've not been possible due to PC culture), I feel that's the only show that could've done them right. I know halfcourt gets a blink and miss cameo but still wasted opportunity. Would it have been silly? sure but we live in a world of Lita the teenage mutant girl turtle fanfic is canon so who cares.

Sumac 06-22-2021 06:14 AM

I have a feeling that this snake guy was based of Scale Tail, like Ray from "Revel without fins" was based on Ray Fillet / Man Ray.

Mad Dog McMutt 07-10-2021 07:14 PM

What a missed opportunity that was for them not to use scale tail.

MikeandRaph87 07-10-2021 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog McMutt (Post 1897278)
What a missed opportunity that was for them not to use scale tail.

Yes, he should have been the villain in the episode 'Snakes Alive!' in 1992.


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