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Ulisa 10-04-2011 07:29 PM

TMNT and tears
 
While I was reading over some of the old posts about Turtles Forever, I did notice the comments regarding the OT turtles crying. Now, without getting into whether or not it was OOC or not, I did start thinking about both the OT and the NT.

It surprised me that they actually did cry some, in both cartoons. I actually find this intriguing because I don't see this a lot in cartoons. Seems like most cartoon characters are allowed to be upset but not cry, especially if they're male characters. Hence, this topic interests me.

Of the OT, I remember Michelangelo crying in Polly Want a Pizza when his brothers tell him to get rid of the parrot. In Michelangelo Meets Mondo Gecko, Raphael cries when he thinks Michelangelo died in the trunk crash.

Of the NT, I just remember Raph crying when Leo is injured and won't wake up.

Are there any other instances that you all can recall?

Slap-Happy 10-04-2011 07:37 PM

I don't seem to remember any other instances of crying in OT.

The first movie has a lot of crying in it though. Kind of weird that a movie based on a Satuday morning cartoon was so emotional.

Powder 10-04-2011 07:40 PM

It's funny, the turtles are some of the most "human" characters out there & they're reptiles. I've always appreciated that.

Slap-Happy 10-04-2011 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder (Post 880004)
It's funny, the turtles are some of the most "human" characters out there & they're reptiles. I've always appreciated that.

I think that's probably the most edearing aspect of the turtles, besides, you know, them being Mutant Ninjas.

Ulisa 10-04-2011 08:16 PM

I loved the fact that they could be so emotional, even as a kid.

I remember watching an OT episode, I believe it was "What's Michelangelo Good For?" and even though it was a little scene, the part where the three turtles think Michelangelo had been blown up stuck with me. Not just the animation but the voice talents in that scene. I had always thought Leonardo remained pretty calm, in most instances, but his "We'll get you for this" combined with the animation close-up of his face is still one of the few times in the OT where I thought (and still think) 'Whoa...he's pissed.'

Just little instances like that really add a lot to the characters I think. I tend to be Leo and Mikey-biased but I think it helps round out so much of the character, gives them a lot more depth. I'm probably being nostalgic but in cartoons nowadays, I mainly see: happy, sad, angry, scared.

In TMNT as well as other cartoons from my childhood, I could recall: angry, pissed, happy, excited, exasperated, nervous, guilty, grieving, etc, etc.

I like that:)

ToTheNines 10-04-2011 08:49 PM

OT... I remember Michaelangelo crying a few times during season 3. I'll have to think harder about that one.

In the 4kids show, Leo cried a little bit after he had to leave Splinter during RTTNY part 3. Splinter cried during a couple of the Hamato Yoshi flashbacks. Mikey teared up when April was about to get married but that was just for "comedic effect".

I always felt it was kind of weird that Don didn't shed any during SAINW, oh well.

pannoni1 10-05-2011 06:19 AM

I remember Mike crying when someone told him that there won't be any more pizza ever again (around Season 4-5ish). I think I've even heard Irma cry a few times about how she's still looking for Mr. right as well. And I do feel like having more depth of emotion helps people as well; I've noticed many kids nowadays don't have the emotional diversity like I had, and since what you watch as kid greatly influences your lifestyle, today's shows really are showing it.

Jephael 10-05-2011 06:30 AM

In one episode Irma cries so loud I want Burne Thompson to stomp in and threaten to fire her unless she shut her trap!

I remember an emotional scene in "Splinter Vanishes" where Mikey got pretty teared up when they had to split up.

pannoni1 10-05-2011 06:59 AM

I've even heard Krang cry once after he feels apparently jealous that Shredder borrowed his Dimension X Express Card and was staying in that hotel before the foot trashed it. And Shredder sounds like he's crying near the end of "Shredder & Splintered" when he says "I don't want to conquer this place! I want to conquer earth! (In a weepy manner that no Shredder has ever done since!) It just shows how good the voice actors were in the OT expressing all their emotions and is part of the atmosphere; there is much less crying on the 4Kids show and I don't remember any at all during Red Sky.

BubblyShell22 10-05-2011 09:23 AM

I'd have to say that the most powerful, emotional scenes were in the New Toon. Raph crying at the prospect of losing Leo, Leo crying at the prospect of leaving Splinter, and I think Leo even cried a bit after he cut Splinter in "The Ancient One." I'd have to watch it again to be sure.

Luzmagica 10-05-2011 12:49 PM

They are strong deep feelings imagens when your heros show their feelings.... :tgrin:

Raph crying: Season 5 Chapter 2 Michelangelo meets Mondo Gecko:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/828...angelomeet.jpg

Luzmagica 10-05-2011 12:52 PM

Michelangelo crying in Raphael Versus the Volcano...Season 5 Chapter 8:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5...lversusthe.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4...lversusthe.jpg

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2519/3s05e08.jpg

....That is a strong scene for a kid...tho. we can see later it was a confusion... :tgrin:

CyberCubed 10-05-2011 12:53 PM

What about the ep where Mike is crying over the oven dying, and Raph standing in the doorframe thinking he's crying about him? This is the ep where Raph thinks he's a goner and becomes the Green Avenger.

Luzmagica 10-05-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 880155)
What about the ep where Mike is crying over the oven dying, and Raph standing in the doorframe thinking he's crying about him? This is the ep where Raph thinks he's a goner and becomes the Green Avenger.

^_0 Yes...Just take a look previous post...! All scene! ;)

Zachatello00 10-05-2011 01:54 PM

In the 4kids toon, Casey sheds a tear in "Fallen Angel" after the TMNT rescue him and Mike hands him a baseball bat.

Bauer536 10-05-2011 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luzmagica (Post 880152)
They are strong deep feelings imagens when your heros show their feelings.... :tgrin:

Raph crying: Season 5 Chapter 2 Michelangelo meets Mondo Gecko:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/828...angelomeet.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luzmagica (Post 880153)
Michelangelo crying in Raphael Versus the Volcano...Season 5 Chapter 8:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5...lversusthe.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4...lversusthe.jpg

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2519/3s05e08.jpg

....That is a strong scene for a kid...tho. we can see later it was a confusion... :tgrin:

I'm confused. I can't tell how I'm supposed to look at the pictures. They seem out of order.:tconfuse:

Slap-Happy 10-05-2011 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luzmagica (Post 880153)
Michelangelo crying in Raphael Versus the Volcano...Season 5 Chapter 8:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5...lversusthe.jpg

This makes me laugh. It makes it seem as if one of the turtles walks into the room to get something, sees Mike crying, feels like he's in an awkward situation and just leaves. :lol:

Herald7 10-05-2011 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chicken Whisperer (Post 880260)
This makes me laugh. It makes it seem as if one of the turtles walks into the room to get something, sees Mike crying, feels like he's in an awkward situation and just leaves. :lol:

LOL, it does look like that. :lol:

Powder 10-06-2011 12:00 AM

That IS what happened in the scene, more or less...

Luzmagica 10-06-2011 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bauer536 (Post 880254)
I'm confused. I can't tell how I'm supposed to look at the pictures. They seem out of order.:tconfuse:

Sorry * Im confuse also :) *...I know the meaning of the sentence but I dont get the comment....Which ones seems out of order? There are two different secenes from different chapters... Not from same chapter....Let me know...just in case I mislead any frame....! :twink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chicken Whisperer (Post 880260)
This makes me laugh. It makes it seem as if one of the turtles walks into the room to get something, sees Mike crying, feels like he's in an awkward situation and just leaves. :lol:

ehemmm.... Of course ...I think its not a spoiler.... if I tell that Raph believes that Mike is crying because of him, because Raph believe Mike cries for him very illness and is going to die soon....so he leaves the place to quietly, he dont want do more damage/pain/sad to his brothers....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herald7 (Post 880293)
LOL, it does look like that. :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder (Post 880296)
That IS what happened in the scene, more or less...


Thanks! .... :tgrin: :twink::twink::twink:

Bauer536 10-11-2011 04:20 PM

I just realized something. I haven't got a chance to watch the first movie again on DVD (I have some studying to do).

Just a question: Did Leo cry in the movie? I remember Raph crying a few times, and Don and Mikey during the meditation. But I don't remember if the leader did. Mind if someone tells me?:tconfuse:

ssjup81 10-11-2011 06:57 PM

I thought he did after Raph woke up.

Bauer536 10-11-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 881605)
I thought he did after Raph woke up.

I just watched that on YouTube to check. I'm not sure, but at a certain angle when he's with Raph, the bottom part of his mask for his eyes looks damp. Also, I may have seen a wet cheek when he was sitting down worried before. Any other scenes?

Type 97 Chi-ha 10-11-2011 10:28 PM

In the episode "Splinter No More", Splinter cries briefly, along with Leonardo, at the thought of being human once more.

In "Attack of the 50-Foot Irma", she cries at the Turtles' comments about her being a giant.

In "Attack of the Big MACC", Krang cries at the end when much of his machinery is wrecked.

And in the old Eastman and Laird series, Raphael cries angrily when he sees Splinter suspended in a transparent tube full of liquid, believing him being placed on display (before discovering Splinter had been injured and was on an alien life support machine).

Just off the top of my head.

Bauer536 10-11-2011 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha (Post 881653)
In the episode "Splinter No More", Splinter cries briefly, along with Leonardo, at the thought of being human once more.

In "Attack of the 50-Foot Irma", she cries at the Turtles' comments about her being a giant.

In "Attack of the Big MACC", Krang cries at the end when much of his machinery is wrecked.

And in the old Eastman and Laird series, Raphael cries angrily when he sees Splinter suspended in a transparent tube full of liquid, believing him being placed on display (before discovering Splinter had been injured and was on an alien life support machine).

Just off the top of my head.

Apparently, I'm having a hard time finding the episode online. Is there any way you can post images of the scene from "Splinter No More"?

Type 97 Chi-ha 10-11-2011 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bauer536 (Post 881656)
Apparently, I'm having a hard time finding the episode online. Is there any way you can post images of the scene from "Splinter No More"?

Sorry, I'm going strictly by memory, but I definitely remember that moment.

I do have a collected book of the original TMNT comics, but don't know the legality of posting any pages of them online.

Bauer536 10-12-2011 07:08 AM

Sorry. I know Luzmagica had those images of Raph and Mikey crying.

Hey Luz, can you find these images of Splinter and Leo crying in "Splinter No More"?:tsmile:

ssjup81 10-12-2011 07:25 AM

Here are a couple of shots I took of Splinter crying.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nter_cry01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nter_cry02.jpg

As for Leo crying....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...turtle_cry.jpg
...it was Mikey, unless it was in a later part of the episode.

BubblyShell22 10-12-2011 08:39 AM

Yeah, I remember that.

Cobra5000 10-12-2011 11:02 AM

in the red sky episode "The power of three", michaelangelo cries

Type 97 Chi-ha 10-13-2011 07:32 PM

I should add that Rocksteady does in "The Gang's All Here", when he wonders if his old gang would recognize him.

Bauer536 10-14-2011 09:48 AM

Had Leo and Don ever cried in the OT? If so, can I see some pictures?:tsmile:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 10-14-2011 01:08 PM

Raphael Meets His Match
 
Don't they cry in "Raphael Meets His Match"? And Krang cries in the "Ninja Sword of Nowhere" when watching the John & Marsa soap opera?

Luzmagica 10-14-2011 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bauer536 (Post 881717)
Sorry. I know Luzmagica had those images of Raph and Mikey crying.

Hey Luz, can you find these images of Splinter and Leo crying in "Splinter No More"?:tsmile:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bauer536 (Post 882254)
Had Leo and Don ever cried in the OT? If so, can I see some pictures?:tsmile:

I´ll try my best as soon as possible...If I fail in this....I will also recommend 100% to you to post your scans request in Thread: Original OT screenshots...where forum member: Tone-master21 is the best finding images/posting scans of OT cartoons!!!! this is site/link of Tone-master King thread!!! :twink:

Just ask Tone-master21 for your OT images petition/request!....

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...=9523&page=194

Jephael 10-15-2011 09:19 AM

Donatello cried at the end of "Michaelangelo Toys Around" when he saw the little boy reconcile with his father.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 10-15-2011 12:51 PM

Teenagers from Dimension X
 
Does Michelangelo cry in "Teenagers from Dimension X"

tone-master21 10-18-2011 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bauer536 (Post 882254)
Had Leo and Don ever cried in the OT? If so, can I see some pictures?

Here you go:

Leo crying from the episode "Farewell, Lotus Blossom"

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying1.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying2.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying3.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying4.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying5.jpg

Don crying from "Michaelangelo Toys Around"
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying6.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying7.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying8.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying9.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...ntcrying10.jpg

Bauer536 10-18-2011 10:56 PM

[QUOTE=tone-master21;883109]Here you go:

Leo crying from the episode "Farewell, Lotus Blossom"

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying1.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying2.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying3.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying4.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...mntcrying5.jpg


Wow. Not bad. Just a question: how about Leo crying when he's not in front of onions. He must have felt some rather sad over something.:tsmile:

tone-master21 10-18-2011 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bauer536 (Post 883114)
Wow. Not bad. Just a question: how about Leo crying when he's not in front of onions. He must have felt some rather sad over something.:tsmile:

The only other time I can think of is in "Back to the Egg" when Leo and Mike turn into little kids.

Bauer536 10-19-2011 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tone-master21 (Post 883116)
The only other time I can think of is in "Back to the Egg" when Leo and Mike turn into little kids.

No thanks. I'd rather see turtle tears from the teenage mutant ninja version of them. But thanks anyway.:tsmile:

Still, if you do remember, see if you can find any pics of Leo really crying, like if he got worried that something happend to Splinter.:tsmile:


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