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CyberCubed 12-26-2011 10:04 PM

Prediction time, how many issues do you think the IDW series will last?
 
Yes, something like this is purely speculation as we have no idea what factors could lead to the IDW series continuing for years to come or getting canceled at some point. We have no clues if the sales will remain consistent a year from now or if the Nick show will propel the comic to even more fans.

But, just for fun, try to predict how many issues this series will last.

We've already surpassed Dreamwave (lol, 7 issues), and we're likely to surpass Volume 2 soon (13 issues), and I can see it being longer than the Image series (23 issues) as well. Volume 4 also only had (32 issues) thus far, so hopefully it'll last past that as well.

The real question is if it reaches the milestones of Volume 1, (62 issues + 1 shots), Tales of the TMNT V. 2 (70 issues + 16 one-shot miniseries), or the Archie series (over 100 issues with all specials and mini's).

I am really hoping the IDW series goes on for as long as the Nick TMNT era reigns, which will hopefully be at least 5-7 years.

ToTheNines 12-26-2011 10:16 PM

I see it having it's current success until the Nick show debuts, which should haul in some new readers. A movie would really help sales, but it would seem that Paramount is doing nothing but fiddle-farting around with that.

So if I had to put a number on it, my guess would be: 54 issues.

Powder 12-26-2011 10:24 PM

Without any basis for saying so, 36. Just a random number that came to mind.

Cowabunga Carl 12-26-2011 10:32 PM

Like Powder without any reason or thought I say 72.

Spitfire 12-26-2011 10:49 PM

I see it ending and getting restarted in another series. IDW seems to do that. They're more mini series based. Dishing out #1s where they can. I was surprised to see them under take an on going like this because most books of theirs I see are stories told spread across several different mini arcs of about 10 issues each. Giving people more jumping on points. Rarely their stuff breaches 20 issues per series.

Cowabunga Carl 12-26-2011 11:13 PM

There Joe stuff is actually fairly good. I read it as trades though as it works better that way for those stories. So far the TMNT seem that way too, which bothers me somewhat but not enough to be a major problem.

With the new toon and movie I could see alternate titles or a "reboot" happening to fit more with those canons should they prove popular but I really hope it doesn't happen like that.

CyberCubed 12-26-2011 11:16 PM

I don't think IDW is going to bother rebooting TMNT every few years. They seem to really be putting effort into creating an all new universe and to see it thrown away just to start over again is pointless.

The only way I can see another reboot now is if Nick ships the TMNT license over to another company at some point.

Andrew NDB 12-26-2011 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire (Post 896651)
I see it ending and getting restarted in another series. IDW seems to do that.

That's hardly localized to IDW -- that's true of every comic book publisher out there.

But yeah, if sales start dipping, I would expect they would quietly end the ongoing series, then a short pause, then it would come back as an semi-ongoing series of mini-series until sales taper off too vastly. That's usually the way it works.

Spitfire 12-27-2011 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 896655)
That's hardly localized to IDW -- that's true of every comic book publisher out there.

Well true but almost all of IDWs major titles are told in mini series. That's why I said that.

Metropoliskid41 12-27-2011 08:32 AM

I think and really hope this current series sees an unprecedented milestone of 100 issues, and I really think it can do it. I also expect as number stay steady and hopefully increase, to see them branch off and start some other books, like maybe a TMNT cartoon adaption series, a movie prequel and adaption, and I think it would be cool if they picked up off of volume #4 and continued the original numbering for that in addition to current ongoing TMNT series. These are all things we're currently seeing them do for the GI JOE and Transformers properties, and I don't think its a stretch at all to see this trend continue as momentum continues to grow for the turtles and this book.

***First of Two Latin Kings*** 12-27-2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 896637)
We've already surpassed Dreamwave (lol, 7 issues), and we're likely to surpass Volume 2 soon (13 issues), and I can see it being longer than the Image series (23 issues) as well. Volume 4 also only had (32 issues) thus far, so hopefully it'll last past that as well.

Hardly. We've had seven issues of IDW, so it is tied with DreamWave at this point. They were already working on the T4 issue when DreamWave TMNT got canned. So #6 of IDW TMNT isn't guaranteed.

I would have foreseen this comic going much further than the rest of you do, sales seem to be really high. I honestly could have seen it going into the three digit numbers.

Venom 12-27-2011 10:05 AM

Based solely of what I've perceived with GI Joe and Transformers, I see the current ongoing lasting a good while.

Whenever the movie hits, I foresee a tie-in prequel and possibly sequel mini.

IDW has already all but confirmed a toon tie-in book as well.

Depending on how the current ongoing continues to perform could very well see offshoots (the micros) and minis spinning out from it, and possibly a new incarnation of Tales (the current story already begs for a few "Tales").

So, excluding the ongoing, I predict the title will enjoy a good life spread across many issues.

IDW seems to enjoy having a handful of licensed titles from which to craft good stories that appeal to a particular nostalgic niche, the main difference with the Turtles is that they were a comic first, toyline second.

Metropoliskid41 12-27-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Venom (Post 896704)
Based solely of what I've perceived with GI Joe and Transformers, I see the current ongoing lasting a good while.

Whenever the movie hits, I foresee a tie-in prequel and possibly sequel mini.

IDW has already all but confirmed a toon tie-in book as well.

Depending on how the current ongoing continues to perform could very well see offshoots (the micros) and minis spinning out from it, and possibly a new incarnation of Tales (the current story already begs for a few "Tales").

So, excluding the ongoing, I predict the title will enjoy a good life spread across many issues.

IDW seems to enjoy having a handful of licensed titles from which to craft good stories that appeal to a particular nostalgic niche, the main difference with the Turtles is that they were a comic first, toyline second.

Agreed, I definitely think there is room for some "Tales" especially some featuring Casey & Raph. I can really hope and can see there eventually being 3-4 Turtles books a month consistently between some spin-off minis around the movie and one shots in addition to the current Ongoing series and hopefully a cartoon tie-in Ongoing.

Hermano Dyvas 12-27-2011 10:44 AM

They will last forever !!!

Saying what I want here, no fun in being realistic about it :P

Cowabunga Carl 12-27-2011 12:58 PM

I'd love for it to go for years. The thing that I think will do it in is when they finally have that final final confrontation with Shredder/Hob. Once that happens I could see it being restarted.

Metropoliskid41 12-27-2011 01:05 PM

I think as long as they continue to tell great stories and build the backstory and mythos while introducing some new villains they're going to be just fine. You see a lot of books get all wrapped up with the story of the battle against one specific villain, and once they final end that merry go round there is nothing left. I hope they can really bring in some new villains like they did with Hob, that give them more than just Shredder and Hob to go after, so that the series can continue to survive with one or both of those villains out of the picture.

gobo 12-27-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed
Prediction time, how many issues do you think the IDW series will last?

Two. Nick won't care to keep a comic going. :shifty:

junkboy 12-27-2011 01:24 PM

I think they shall be doing, like they do to Transformers. ( at least on the long run )
Lots of miniseries.

TomWaltz 12-27-2011 01:55 PM

I'm saying a billion issues, give or take a couple hundred thou.

Metropoliskid41 12-27-2011 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TomWaltz (Post 896793)
I'm saying a billion issues, give or take a couple hundred thou.

Shell yeah!! That's what I like to hear :tgrin:

Hermano Dyvas 12-27-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TomWaltz (Post 896793)
I'm saying a billion issues, give or take a couple hundred thou.

The man's got spirit! Hell yeah!

I was wondering though, how many issues ahead have been planned storywise so far? Like how you already know the story for #8 etc...

Metropoliskid41 12-27-2011 02:35 PM

I can't remember if it was here or over at IDW's boards but I saw that Tom & Kevin had a rough layout of the first 3 years worth of stories or so. I believe it was Bobby who said that.

ToTheNines 12-27-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermano Dyvas (Post 896801)
I was wondering though, how many issues ahead have been planned storywise so far? Like how you already know the story for #8 etc...

Bobby said they've plotted everything out up to issue #24.

CyberCubed 12-27-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 896812)
Bobby said they've plotted everything out up to issue #24.

Since only 12 issues come out a year not counting specials/mini-series...then that means roughly the first 2 years of the main IDW series is probably already planned.

However we already have the 4 TMNT one-shots and 2-part Infestation....so that adds another 6 issues.

Therefore we should have at least 30 IDW TMNT issues if #24 turns out to be the end, which hopefully it won't.

Metropoliskid41 12-27-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 896812)
Bobby said they've plotted everything out up to issue #24.

Thank you for the clarification, I was thinking it was more than that but now I remember him saying #24 once you mentioned it. Was that here or over at IDW?

junkboy 12-27-2011 03:54 PM

Good news then.
Nice.

Hermano Dyvas 12-27-2011 04:01 PM

Cool, thanks for the heads up.

Plasticplayhouse 12-28-2011 07:32 AM

i give it 24 issues until they end it and move on to smaller mini series'. eventually they'll probably come back for another 12-18 issue series depending how sales are.

Toby Barrett 12-28-2011 07:42 AM

Wow. Not many people here have much faith it the book being a long running series..

Metropoliskid41 12-28-2011 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Plasticplayhouse (Post 896969)
i give it 24 issues until they end it and move on to smaller mini series'. eventually they'll probably come back for another 12-18 issue series depending how sales are.

Where is this thought process coming from? Yes IDW did many 6 issue Mini-Series early in their TF runs but each had a number in the corner to tell what issue # it was in the big picture, and then they moved to an ongoing because it was a pain in the butt for people trying to get into the continuous story and not knowing what minis to start with, so they moved away from the minis and stuck with an Ongoing. This has been solicited and listed as an Ongoing, I really don't think they're going to relaunch it every 2 years. Tom said above that they are thinking big picture and a long run, he said a couple hundred, I don't get how that gets narrowed to 24 issues. Not sure where everyone is bases these low run #'s on when the book is awesome, sales have been great, and when the creative staff itself is saying they are planning out a long run. I think there will be some tie-in minis and some additional ongoing books like a movie prequel and adaption and a cartoon adaption, but those won't effect the longevity of this ongoing and continuity. They will be collecting all of the issues in trade so they don't really need to worry about capping this run and starting a new series with a new issue #1 for a jumping on point for new readers.

King Suck 12-28-2011 08:26 AM

I hope a very very long time cuz if this folds and Viacom doesn't sell the license to someone else all of us are SOL.

Though nothing against IDW i wouldn't mind seeing some other indy publishers like Dark Horse take a shot at the turtles and i would blow stringy chunks out both ends if Marvel or DC ever got the license.

On that note does anyone know how long IDWs license is from Viacom?

Master Splinter 12-28-2011 08:30 AM



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azrael 12-28-2011 08:54 AM

100+ issues easily

Lets be honest here, is anyone not going to buy it even if it did suck?

Grimlock 12-28-2011 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by azrael (Post 896990)
100+ issues easily

Lets be honest here, is anyone not going to buy it even if it did suck?

Um, me? Sorry, but if the quality drops and you were not enjoying it every month why in the hell would you keep spending your hard earned cash on it?

IDW is all quality at this point so I can't imagine this being the case but still..

junkboy 12-28-2011 10:41 AM

At least i would change to "TPB only" as i usually do for other titles, if it sucked. I am getting both issues and TPBs for IDW TMNT at this point ( or will get the trades )

Plasticplayhouse 12-28-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Metropoliskid41 (Post 896976)
Where is this thought process coming from? Yes IDW did many 6 issue Mini-Series early in their TF runs but each had a number in the corner to tell what issue # it was in the big picture, and then they moved to an ongoing because it was a pain in the butt for people trying to get into the continuous story and not knowing what minis to start with, so they moved away from the minis and stuck with an Ongoing. This has been solicited and listed as an Ongoing, I really don't think they're going to relaunch it every 2 years. Tom said above that they are thinking big picture and a long run, he said a couple hundred, I don't get how that gets narrowed to 24 issues. Not sure where everyone is bases these low run #'s on when the book is awesome, sales have been great, and when the creative staff itself is saying they are planning out a long run. I think there will be some tie-in minis and some additional ongoing books like a movie prequel and adaption and a cartoon adaption, but those won't effect the longevity of this ongoing and continuity. They will be collecting all of the issues in trade so they don't really need to worry about capping this run and starting a new series with a new issue #1 for a jumping on point for new readers.

No where really. For me I guess it comes from a combination of bad experiences. Believe me, I hope this comic makes the long haul, but every time I want something to last for a full healthy run it always seems to get s#!tcanned. Things like Dreamwave's war within, SOTA's street fighter figures, NECA's TMNT line, etc.

Andrew NDB 12-28-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by azrael (Post 896990)
Lets be honest here, is anyone not going to buy it even if it did suck?

*raises hand*

I have no interest whatsoever in supporting crappy incarnations of the Turtles just because they're Turtles... because doing so only encourages more crappy incarnations of the Turtles.

Hermano Dyvas 12-28-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by azrael (Post 896990)
100+ issues easily

Lets be honest here, is anyone not going to buy it even if it did suck?

IDW DOES have to work for our appreciation but so far they've been doing great. I hope I'll be able to say the same in a year or so. :)

I find the people who dropped it after #1 silly though, you can hardly judge a series by this first issue of 20 pages with tons of unanswered questions.

Metropoliskid41 12-28-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Plasticplayhouse (Post 897018)
Things like Dreamwave's war within

They never canned War Within, it started as a mini and stayed that way, it wasn't an Ongoing that got switched to a mini. And as far as Dreamwave goes, they had some top notch stuff but were financially run by an idiot. The reason they died off had nothing to do with the quality and I don't see that happening with IDW. DW had that moron Lee funneling money from DW to support his girlfriend's modeling career. He was an amatuer when it came to the business side. IDW has proven time and again that they are pretty business savy and not stupid like he was.

Grimlock 12-28-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Metropoliskid41 (Post 897031)
They never canned War Within, it started as a mini and stayed that way, it wasn't an Ongoing that got switched to a mini. And as far as Dreamwave goes, they had some top notch stuff but were financially run by an idiot. The reason they died off had nothing to do with the quality and I don't see that happening with IDW. DW had that moron Lee funneling money from DW to support his girlfriend's modeling career. He was an amatuer when it came to the business side. IDW has proven time and again that they are pretty business savy and not stupid like he was.

QFT. Pat Lee was an idiot and it's a shame because I LOVED War Within. The turtles are in very good hands with IDW so I'm not worried.


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