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Dontebell 04-28-2003 07:38 PM

best actor to play batman
 
who was the best actor to play batman?

Voltron 04-28-2003 07:50 PM

Keaton and West were both incredible. Everyone else sucked.

Tetsu Deinonychus 04-28-2003 08:59 PM

Voltron speaks the truth!

J Legault 04-28-2003 09:12 PM

I vote Adam West.

BigThew 04-28-2003 09:15 PM

keaton

the only 2 good batman movies were with him

Leo656 04-29-2003 03:52 AM

Gotta go with Keaton on this one. With all due respect to West, it took decades for the comic to undo all the damage that show did. That was borderline character assassination.

Knuckles 04-29-2003 04:47 AM

Indeed it was. But I'll give the old Batman show one piece of credit. I don't believe it is too widely known, but DC was thinking of cancelling the Batman comic book series before the Adam West show premiered. However, with the show, the character's popularity increased by a great deal, so they kept the comic book alive. Anyway, my vote's for Keaton--a lot of people thought he couldn't play the role before they saw the movie, but he did a great job. As for the other two actors, I'll quote SNL's Celebrity Jeopardy with Matthew Perry playing Michael Keaton:

TREBEK: Your answer--Val Kilmer sucks. And your wager--George Clooney sucks.
KEATON: I'm Batman.

:D

That Matt Guy 04-29-2003 05:40 AM

The old 1966 Batman series was great, I mean, every villian was played by a classic movie star. Adam West is the true Batman, but Keaton was great in the first and second newer films.

GK Punk 04-29-2003 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew138
The old 1966 Batman series was great, I mean, every villian was played by a classic movie star. Adam West is the true Batman, but Keaton was great in the first and second newer films.

Did you ever see the 1960s batman movie staring Adam West? I loved that movie.. HE HAD BAT-SHARK REPELENT!!! HOW GREAT IS THAT!!!!

Barkworm 04-29-2003 06:50 AM

:lol: GK or anyone, do you remember the scene, when Bats and Robin are nearly hit by that missile, then there is a cut and in the next scene they are both safe, saying a dolphin sacrificed its life to rescue them?
Hilarious! :lol: :lol: :lol:

GK Punk 04-29-2003 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by barkworm
:lol: GK or anyone, do you remember the scene, when Bats and Robin are nearly hit by that missile, then there is a cut and in the next scene they are both safe, saying a dolphin sacrificed its life to rescue them?
Hilarious! :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol:
I'm tellin' ya that was quality programming!!

That Matt Guy 04-29-2003 08:00 AM

Batman was always doing stupid stuff like that. Do you remember that scene in the 1966 movie were he runs around trying to get rid of that giant bomb, but something was always in his way?

Shellfox 04-29-2003 09:05 AM

Adam West

and as a side note, I read at Super Hero Hype yesterday they may be talking to Matt Damon to be the new Batman

Mars-Chan 04-29-2003 09:28 AM

Keaton.
Off-topic, give me the movie Robin any day! 8)

GK Punk 04-29-2003 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew138
Batman was always doing stupid stuff like that. Do you remember that scene in the 1966 movie were he runs around trying to get rid of that giant bomb, but something was always in his way?

Yeah that was a great scene, had to be one of my favorites just do to how.. I guess Silly is the word it for it, it was

Dontebell 04-29-2003 12:37 PM

nobody voted for george clooney.
how bad was he as batman?

Shellfox 04-29-2003 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dontebell
nobody voted for george clooney.
how bad was he as batman?

He wasn't so bad, but the movie made him seem far worse

Barkworm 04-29-2003 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by grunger_kittie
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew138
Batman was always doing stupid stuff like that. Do you remember that scene in the 1966 movie were he runs around trying to get rid of that giant bomb, but something was always in his way?

Yeah that was a great scene, had to be one of my favorites just do to how.. I guess Silly is the word it for it, it was

"Some days you can't get rid of a bomb!" :lol:

Knuckles 04-29-2003 01:06 PM

Clooney was pretty terrible as Batman. The movie was far worse that his acting, true, but his acting was atrocious, so I guess that makes the movie downright, um, supercalifragilisticexpiala-atrocious. :P His acting was as wooden as ever I've seen. Take this line for example, where it should go:

BATMAN: Freeze! You're mad!

A terrible line in and of itself, but here's how Clooney delivers it:

BATMAN: Freeze you're mad.

God-awful movie. They basically made it like a newer version of the campy 60's show--but the thing is, the campy show only worked in the 60's, and only works now as a goofy nostalgic thing that's entertaining because it's so ridiculous and makes fun of itself. But nowadays, real Bat-fans don't tend to go for the campy stuff--at least I don't.

Karpo_007 04-29-2003 01:22 PM

Well I do love the old show, but Keaton was still a better batman... 4D4mW3sT F0R3V3R1!!!!1

Tetsu Deinonychus 04-29-2003 01:49 PM

The 1960s movie was great.

BTW The only time I've seen Clooney not suck was in "Oh, Brother where art thou", which I have to admit was brilliant. But he should have been hung for his portayal of Batman!

Dontebell 04-29-2003 02:03 PM

what will george clooney and the other actor who batman would say if they saw this poll?

The Stryker 04-29-2003 02:05 PM

to quote the original batman

"i love my job more than taffy and im a man that loves his taffy....mmmmmmmmm...ahhhmmmmmmmmmm"


RIP family guy

Barkworm 04-29-2003 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TetsuDeinonychus
BTW The only time I've seen Clooney not suck was in "Oh, Brother where art thou", which I have to admit was brilliant. But he should have been hung for his portayal of Batman!

He was good in ER and "From Dusk till dawn" too.
My favourite quote from "Batman & Robin" is and will always be: "Hi Freeze, I'm Batman!" :sleep:
Joel Schumacher should burn in hell for his Batman-movies...

Leo656 04-29-2003 04:25 PM

It wasn't just Clooney either. EVERYONE camped it up in "Batman and Robin" for some reason. I still haven't seen the whole thing, I get disgusted halfway through every time.

I'll be honest and say that when I was a kid, I liked the old Adam West Batman show, but now that I'm older I can see that it was simply because it was a show that was connected to Batman in some way and my 6-year old brain was willing to forgive a whole lot.

Some people love the show because of how silly it was, but that's a big reason why I don't like it much anymore. Batman is just not a silly character, or at least wasn't intended to be. In his first few appearances in comics he used to gun down criminals pretty regularly. It's understandable why that kinda stuff wouldn't fly in the 60s, but that entire decade of Batman stories (in the comics as well as the show) pretty much were the exact opposite of what Batman was about.

I'm just a comic character purist I guess. It's like if suddenly there was a live-action Superman show where he acted like The Tick or something. It might be funny, but it would pretty much piss all over what Superman is really about, and that wouldn't thrill me much. Same goes for West's Batman.

Knuckles 04-29-2003 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656
I'll be honest and say that when I was a kid, I liked the old Adam West Batman show, but now that I'm older I can see that it was simply because it was a show that was connected to Batman in some way and my 6-year old brain was willing to forgive a whole lot.

Some people love the show because of how silly it was, but that's a big reason why I don't like it much anymore. Batman is just not a silly character, or at least wasn't intended to be. In his first few appearances in comics he used to gun down criminals pretty regularly. It's understandable why that kinda stuff wouldn't fly in the 60s, but that entire decade of Batman stories (in the comics as well as the show) pretty much were the exact opposite of what Batman was about.

Hear hear! Though I did like how they stopped having Batman use a gun after his first few appearances--it added a better element to his character, which in turn strengthened his character. Batman's the most interesting superhero in my opinion, simply because his whole drive to do what he does came as a direct result to horrible trauma. Superman, Green Lantern, Flash, Wonder Woman, etc. were all blessed with certain powers--Superman's power was activated by Earth's yellow sun reacting with his Kryptonian body, all Green Lanterns receive their rings from someone else, etc. Those types of superheroes do what they do because they have strong values and see that their abilities allow them to do some good. Batman does what he does because he chooses to fight crime, without the aid of superpowers, because he wants to prevent what happened to him from happening to anyone else. His is a sacred, neverending war on crime of all kinds.

Dane E5R 04-29-2003 05:39 PM

Heh, it's funny how no one's mentioned Val Kilmer yet. I didn't think he did too bad of a job, but like the majority I'll have to go with Keaton. However, I must defend George Clooney. I don't necessarily think it was his fault that his Batman portrayal was so crappy. I've actually heard that he himself WANTED to portray a 'darker' Batman like Keaton and Kilmer (notice how people with a "Kuh" last name seem to be attracted to Batman? Heh!), and even took a try and either re-writing the script, or writing his own, I don't remember, but the higher-ups wanted to give the Batman movies a much lighter tone. I read somewhere that Joel Schumacher was told by WB to make B&R more campy because of the response Batman Returns got. Apparently fans thought that film was too dark, and there was a lot of returned merchandise and what-not. So it really wasn't either Clooney or Schumacher's fault, the only one responsible for icing the franchise is the WB itself. Both Clooney and Schumacher have done some marvelous work in the past, so I wouldn't doubt any of it.[/i]

Tetsu Deinonychus 04-29-2003 09:42 PM

Clooney sucked! (I hate both "ER" and "From Dusk till dawn", but it's OK if you like them, Barkworm) But yeah, He was far from the worst part of Batman & Robin. And, I hope he IS reading this, Dontebell.

BTW Batman used to use a gun?! Cool!

Casey Jones 04-30-2003 05:12 AM

eh, i voted "Keaton & West". but where's Kevin Conroy?? he's the defining Batman as far as i'm concerned. Mask of the Phantasm was the only Batman movie i was totally satisfied with.
i think i should say something about the old show too. no, it wasn't true to Batman's character, but i don't think it was intended to be. it was farce, a parody of Batman(and maybe of superheroes in general). watching that show over, say, Batman:TAS is like reading Mad magazine instead of DC's books.

Dontebell 04-30-2003 05:40 AM

did anyone see return to the batcave on ABC?

That Matt Guy 04-30-2003 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TetsuDeinonychus
BTW The only time I've seen Clooney not suck was in "Oh, Brother where art thou", which I have to admit was brilliant. But he should have been hung for his portayal of Batman!

Yeah, Clooney was a crummy Batman, but he was great in Oh Brother Where Art Thou. He was also pretty good in Three Kings.

Karpo_007 04-30-2003 09:22 AM

Leo has a good point. Same goes for TMNT. They werent created to be sily, or goofy, but just like Batman it was changed that way. Nevertheless, many fans do like 60's batman and old TMNT cartoon, no matter how much it differs from the original and true story. I do love the 60's Batman, and I like first seasons of the old cartoon. Still, on both I do like the original Darker universes better.

Tetsu Deinonychus 05-01-2003 11:13 PM

You said it Karpo.

impetus 05-02-2003 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007
Leo has a good point. Same goes for TMNT. They werent created to be sily, or goofy, but just like Batman it was changed that way. Nevertheless, many fans do like 60's batman and old TMNT cartoon, no matter how much it differs from the original and true story. I do love the 60's Batman, and I like first seasons of the old cartoon. Still, on both I do like the original Darker universes better.

Karpo said it best, although I don't like ANY of the campy versions personally.
I think (hate me if you want to) that HARRISON FORD would make an awesome DARK KNIGHT RETURNS Batman. He's got the age, build, an ability. Yah Frank Miller!

Leo656: Frank who?

That Matt Guy 05-02-2003 07:13 PM

I don't know, I can't take something as ridiculous as Batman serious. I feel the same way about TMNT; probably because I am so used to the goofy versions of both Batman and TMNT.


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