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rufus 01-23-2012 10:57 PM

Vernon season1 to season 2
 
So I have been watching the FW series in order and just finished season 1 and a few episodes into season 2. Is it just me or does Vernon almost have a different personality? He seems more of a snob than he does in season 1.

CyberCubed 01-23-2012 10:58 PM

My guess is the writers hadn't figured out what they wanted Vernon's character to be like yet, so they fine-tuned his character by Season 2.

Remember Irma didn't even debut till Season 2. They likely wanted to figure out how to make the Channel 6 news crew work.

rufus 01-23-2012 11:00 PM

Most likely what happened. Always wondered what would FW series would have been like had they kept the Tone and style of season 1.

CyberCubed 01-23-2012 11:05 PM

The show consistently evolved throughout its run. When you watch the show in order you really do notice how each season is slightly different than the last.

rufus 01-23-2012 11:07 PM

Season 2 feels a like season 1 but with a bit of season 3 starting to enter the mix.

gobo 01-23-2012 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 904413)
My guess is the writers hadn't figured out what they wanted Vernon's character to be like yet, so they fine-tuned his character by Season 2.

"April WASN'T your second-best reporter."
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Originally Posted by rufus (Post 904414)
Always wondered what would FW series would have been like had they kept the Tone and style of season 1.

I'm a call that Playmates-style from now on. According to my research at loc.gov, those five eps were entirely produced by Playmates. I suppose that means Fred Wolf just bought it from them after it was already in the can.

rufus 01-23-2012 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 904428)
I'm a call that Playmates-style from now on. According to my research at loc.gov, those five eps were entirely produced by Playmates. I suppose that means Fred Wolf just bought it from them after it was already in the can.

Didn't know that Playmates produced the first 5 episodes. Thanks for that info Gobo. Wonder how the show would have ended up if Playmates had control of it for a lot longer.

Herald7 01-23-2012 11:39 PM

Yeah it's funny how in Vernon's first appearance he's little more than a glorified extra, lol.

Jelly Bean 01-25-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rufus (Post 904418)
Season 2 feels a like season 1 but with a bit of season 3 starting to enter the mix.

season two feels very different from season one.

ZariusTwo 01-25-2012 10:51 AM

Vernon was a little more willing to follow April's hunches in season one, turning to her side when offered up proof of her findings. In later seasons he would stick his nose at April no matter what she tried.

Logan 01-25-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rufus (Post 904411)
Is it just me or does Vernon almost have a different personality?

More than his personality changes. His voice changes within episodes of each other in Season 1.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 01-25-2012 02:04 PM

Channel 6 staff
 
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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 904413)
My guess is the writers hadn't figured out what they wanted Vernon's character to be like yet, so they fine-tuned his character by Season 2.

Remember Irma didn't even debut till Season 2. They likely wanted to figure out how to make the Channel 6 news crew work.

Would be fun to se more other Channel 6 staff too.

ryukenden 01-26-2012 05:44 AM

From the first season, Vernon would defend April but as the series progressed, he was pretty much obsessed with having her job. He was good comic relief though.

In Curse of the Evil Eye, Vernon did seem to have some authority as he fired that nerdy guy who got a hold of Shredder's helmet with the Eye of Sanof for driving the news van off a pier and into the ocean. Couldn't remember his name but he was quite prominent in that episode but not for the rest of the series.

gobo 01-26-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ryukenden (Post 905194)
Couldn't remember his name

Blodgett(sp?)

Sage Ninja 01-26-2012 01:55 PM

what is Vernon's official position? I always assumed he was a reporter of the same rank as April and that was why there was such competion between them.

As to why his attitude changed toward April after season one? I have a theory but I don't want to say because I don't want to spoil my fan fic by saying it.

And I really liked Blodgett, he was a good punching bag for Vernon and I kind of wish they had kept him. Who did Blodgett's voice? It kind of sounds like Townsend Coleman but I'm not sure.

gobo 01-26-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja (Post 905304)
what is Vernon's official position?

Director. What confused me about that was that it seems silly for a director to want to be a reporter. But, when you consider he was 5x the narcissist April was, it makes sense. He was an attention-whore. :)

MikeandRaph87 01-26-2012 05:49 PM

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And I really liked Blodgett, he was a good punching bag for Vernon and I kind of wish they had kept him. Who did Blodgett's voice? It kind of sounds like Townsend Coleman but I'm not sure.
Correct,it is Townsend's voice.

I never knew as much as I know and love the 1987 cartoon that Vernon was a director. I thought he was a camera man wanting to be a reporter but his personality always got the best of him disabling that.

I remember a season 4 episode had the owner of Channel Six News 's son work as an intern. After that it is not mentioned. Burne while being the station manager almost acted as he was the owner. Its debatable but one could theorize that Burne bought the station from his boss sometime after that. It would makes sense consdiering he was uber ticked as Mike would put it after Shredder blew up Channel Six.

Herald7 01-26-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeandraph87 (Post 905385)
Correct,it is Townsend's voice.

Well wait I've read it's Barry Gordon and it does sound more like him.

MikeandRaph87 01-26-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Herald7 (Post 905390)
Well wait I've read it's Barry Gordon and it does sound more like him.

After watching it x times I tried to figure out which of the seven or so VAs it was doing the extra voices. The voice seemed remincient of preschool Michelangelo from "Back To The Egg". I don't have any link or anything but just my ear making a logical guess based on the above.

Herald7 01-26-2012 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeandraph87 (Post 905394)
After watching it x times I tried to figure out which of the seven or so VAs it was doing the extra voices. The voice seemed remincient of preschool Michelangelo from "Back To The Egg". I don't have any link or anything but just my ear making a logical guess based on the above.

I get what you mean, but it looks like TV.com is saying it's Barry Gordon as well as that TMNT wiki site. Of course I'm not saying those sites are always right but I did always think it was him as well.

gobo 01-26-2012 06:18 PM

I could believe either one; Barry or Townsend.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 01-26-2012 06:20 PM

Power
 
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Originally Posted by mikeandraph87 (Post 905385)
Correct,it is Townsend's voice.

I never knew as much as I know and love the 1987 cartoon that Vernon was a director. I thought he was a camera man wanting to be a reporter but his personality always got the best of him disabling that.

I remember a season 4 episode had the owner of Channel Six News 's son work as an intern. After that it is not mentioned. Burne while being the station manager almost acted as he was the owner. Its debatable but one could theorize that Burne bought the station from his boss sometime after that. It would makes sense consdiering he was uber ticked as Mike would put it after Shredder blew up Channel Six.

Or let's say Burne owns 49 % of the shares and that owner owns 51 %. This would let the owner be main-owner and refered to us owner, but Burne still had a big power.

MikeandRaph87 01-26-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Swedenfan 1982 (Post 905400)
Or let's say Burne owns 49 % of the shares and that owner owns 51 %. This would let the owner be main-owner and refered to us owner, but Burne still had a big power.

Maybe. He could be the biggest share holder of the 50% that is available for stock while the unnamed owner could only own 50% that is not stock owned. Aside from the episode the son of the owner appeared I don't think the owner was ever mentioned,but I could be wrong. It would have been appropriate for him to be at least referenced in "Donatello's Nebuela" among other episodes like "Get Shredder".

I had an idea that Burne finally got enough from a lifetime of savings to buy the station from the owner who retired and the owner's son became a doctor instead of succeeded his father. It goes along with the idea that Burne lead Dregg's anti-Ninja Turtles campaign in season 9 and why April ultimately left Chanel Six. I choose not to elaborate any further in case I post a fan-fiction around that issue and a couple of others in a little while.:tsmile:

Also, I answered your question about Irma being turned into a bug or turtle.

NameGoesHere1066 03-16-2012 09:43 AM

I think Vernon asked April out and she turned him down and he became bitter and probably felt he needed to one up her all the time to prove him manhood.

Killer Moth 03-16-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 904917)
Vernon was a little more willing to follow April's hunches in season one, turning to her side when offered up proof of her findings. In later seasons he would stick his nose at April no matter what she tried.

While he did abandon her in "Turtle Tracks," he made up for it in "Shredder is Splintered." (He was willing to assist her even after Burne recinded April's order for a news crew.) His being revised as a rival for April is an interesting storytelling angle, and perhaps of neccessity, as Irma would become her main confidant in Channel 6. Still, what might have been if Season 1 Vernon's character stuck around vs. the effeminate jerkass we all know and somewhat love.

He had a good progression in his career, becoming a full anchor in the Red Sky seasons. Whereas, everyone else, save for Burne, had remained in their respective positions. (From what I remembered as a kid, so feel free to correct me.)

Coleman did Blodgett? Thank you, as trying to track the various side-voices is hard to do. I'm getting better with knowing Fraley, Paulsen and Clarke, but the others are harder. Took a long while for me to realize Gordon did Bebop.

Update (3/17): I viewed a few of the European Vacation episodes, last night, and apparently had forgotten that Irma served as cameraman. I'll go ahead and retract the "remained in their respective positions" statement. Apologies.


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