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pannoni1 01-31-2012 10:47 AM

What is your favorite CBS Season 7 episode?
 
I've decided to pass on the European Vacation poll since we've had a big thread on it, and since I can only have 15 choices for my "favorite overall episode poll" coming up in about a month after we do the Red Sky polls, I'll just go ahead and see what people's favorite episode from the Season, which I predict will have a closer margain due to a more consistant quality this season.

ssjup81 01-31-2012 11:10 AM

Now this is a tough decision. I think this is the first and only season where I liked pretty much every single episode listed. It'd be very difficult to choose, even though the bias in me is leaning towards Night of the Dark Turtle and Combat Land. I loved Donny for both of those eps. I mean, in Combat Land, when he and Raph were attacked, Donny slapped Leo without thinking twice about it, even before knowing he was a robot. Raph, even aftre knowing that Mikey was a robot, couldn't bring himself to fight him. Donny is very interesting indeed.

The Mutant Hunter ep was a good one too. Kinda sets up the tone for season 8 when you think about it, showing how people don't trust mutants and stuff. Ah, screw it. I'm not voting. :trazz:

Herald7 01-31-2012 12:39 PM

It's no contest for me, Night of the Dark Turtle was perfect. People talk about the OT going dark during Red Sky. To me Red Sky wasn't the same series. This episode is the OT going dark within its own context and it really works. Taking such a mild mannered character and turning him near homicidal was gutsy. But they were also smart about it. When Donatello confronts the Triceratons at the end, he does it as his usual dry, sarcastic self because of course he doesn't remember being the Dark Turtle. A lesser cartoon series would have just had him channeling the Dark Turtle voice again, which would have defeated the whole purpose of showing that his strength is in his brains.

themaxonline 01-31-2012 04:14 PM

This entire season is good and even if for some reason an episode seems odd or out of place, it's still good with the dark undertones and just much better storylines.
I feel like season 7 could have continued as it was with more episodes or just into season 8 rather than doing a Red Sky. But overall, this was just a very consistent season.

My choice is easily The Legend of Koji but if it wasn't for that, I don't think I'd be able to vote....

Icebot 01-31-2012 04:39 PM

I didn't vote, cause there's 2 episodes I like best: Shredder Triumphant and the Atlantis episode. It was hard to choose between them.

I really liked Alim Cealacanth from the Atlantis episode and I thought it was amazing how the turtles swam all the way to Atlantis from their sewers. I also liked how the Technodrome was able to move the whole episode.

Shredder Triumphant was also a great episode and I feel it could have made a good proper ending to the show with the main villains losing their Technodrome. I like how it ended the non-red sky episodes.

themaxonline 01-31-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebot (Post 906981)
Shredder Triumphant was also a great episode and I feel it could have made a good proper ending to the show with the main villains losing their Technodrome. I like how it ended the non-red sky episodes.

I thought it WAS the ending for a few years until I realized it kept going...:toops:

CyberCubed 01-31-2012 06:23 PM

Heh, at the end of Season 7 you knew the whole show was probably going to change after that, and sure enough it did.

My only gripe is we never really got any final battle with General Traag. Even in Season 8 we just see him a few times talking to Krang.

Avatar Yuffie 01-31-2012 06:53 PM

Uuuugh, I like a lot of those episodes. >.<

pannoni1 02-01-2012 08:00 AM

I voted for Night of the Rogues, because it was so cool seeing so many different characters at once, along with the heroes needing a "call to the bullpen" to stop the attack. Second would be The Legend of Koji, which like others have said was a missed plot opportunity for TMNT III. Third on my ranking would be the finale; while the battle is somewhat weak and they seemed to let the Technodrome retreat a bit too easily, the end of the episode has a good cliffhanger to set up for Season 8. Fourth would be Night of the Dark Turtle was a good example of how this Season began its somewhat darker trend, along with the only appearance of a Triceraton, but its somewhat diluted use keeps it from being higher. Dirk Savage was a decent one-shoter with Tokka and Rahzar. Escape From the Planet of the Turtleoids and Revenge of the Fly were two fine episodes to end some recurring characters. I was a bit disappointed with the final Neutrinos episode and it felt a bit weak. Combat Land harkens the most back to the earlier seasons with its goofy battle plot. I feel that The Starchild and Convicts From Dimension X are the weak spots given their silly alien-space plot (The Starchild with its ET clone in particular).

ToTheNines 02-01-2012 09:37 AM

Had to go with "Legend of Koji". It was rivaled by "Night of the Rogues" as well as "Shredder Triumphant", but both of those episodes were plagued by Irma being too involved in the plots for no reason (her acting like Rambo was really annoying), and piss-poor alternate voices.

Other honorable mentions go to "Dirk Savage: Mutant Hunter", "Night of the Dark Turtle", "White Belt, Black Heart", and "Invasion of the Krangezoids". Great season overall though.

Foot Soldier Clang 02-01-2012 10:53 AM

I just re watched the Dark Turtle episode for the first time in years. Its fantastic. I'm not too fond of it being a blatant Batman homage, but it fits in with the humor of the show. I also wish they didn't use the Triceratons in this episode since it distracted from Donny's psychosis and rampage.

I'll be searching ebay for a decent priced Super Don figure starting today since that will be the closest we ever get to a Dark Turtle figure :tlol:

Edit:

I just finished watching Shredder Triumphant, and its basically the episode I always wanted. Full scale Foot Clan/Dimension X invasion on the city with the Technodrome. And Irma was just the best being all Rambo :tlove:

Herald7 02-01-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Foot Soldier Clang (Post 907293)
I just re watched the Dark Turtle episode for the first time in years. Its fantastic. I'm not too fond of it being a blatant Batman homage, but it fits in with the humor of the show. I also wish they didn't use the Triceratons in this episode since it distracted from Donny's psychosis and rampage.

That's true, probably not the best time to introduce a brand new bad guy when you already have this new development of Donatello going all skitzo on us. Another thing, you'd think he'd be a little more curious at the end about how this happened in the first place, lol. Not to mention whether it would happen again, he is a scientist after all! But then it is kind of a staple of kid's show that when you have a good guy corrupted/brainwashed/otherwise altered, said good guy has to revert to his normal self by the end and then promptly drop the issue, so as to reassure the kiddies, lol.

Foot Soldier Clang 02-01-2012 12:15 PM

@Herald7

Yeah, and maybe without the Triceratons the episode would've been too dark? Strange beings invading the city was a staple of the show, so maybe they just tossed in the Triceraton invasion for a sense of normalcy for regular kid viewers so they wouldn't be too caught up with the Dark Turtle's rampage :lol:

Herald7 02-01-2012 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Foot Soldier Clang (Post 907331)
@Herald7

Yeah, and maybe without the Triceratons the episode would've been too dark?

Yeah that makes sense. I mean Dark Turtle Don was more homicidal than Shredder ever was, lol. How much could you focus on that without going into frightening territory? ;)

ABrown 02-01-2012 01:56 PM

I went with Legend Of Koji, but White Belt Black Heart was just as good.

Spitfire 02-01-2012 02:57 PM

Great season but Legend of Koji wins. In my opinion it's the best episode of the series.

Hermano Dyvas 02-01-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Foot Soldier Clang (Post 907293)
I just re watched the Dark Turtle episode for the first time in years. Its fantastic. I'm not too fond of it being a blatant Batman homage, but it fits in with the humor of the show. I also wish they didn't use the Triceratons in this episode since it distracted from Donny's psychosis and rampage.

I have to disagree. It didn't distract us from Donny's psychosis. It actually upped the stakes because it became even more important to get Donny back to normal.

Herald7 02-01-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermano Dyvas (Post 907517)
I have to disagree. It didn't distract us from Donny's psychosis. It actually upped the stakes because it became even more important to get Donny back to normal.

That's a good point as well. I mean they occasionally made jokes in the series about how they'd be lost without Donny, but this episode really proves it. And it was sent up very well with the turtles taunting Donny at the beginning that his brains weren't that important, only to have it blow in their faces when Donny essentially starts to believe that himself...to the extreme, lol. And now they're the ones who have to convince Donny to use his brains. It's a nice ironic twist.

tone-master21 02-01-2012 05:41 PM

I went with The Legend of Koji followed by Night of the Dark Turtle.

ssjup81 02-01-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Herald7 (Post 907346)
Yeah that makes sense. I mean Dark Turtle Don was more homicidal than Shredder ever was, lol. How much could you focus on that without going into frightening territory? ;)

This alone is why I loved the episode so much. I'd go as far to say that this is one of the best episodes of the entire series. It was so wonderful seeing that side of Donny and hinting that he really does have a dark side. He was definitely homicidal and would've killed Shredder if it hadn't have been for Raph and Leo butting in and stuff. That was pretty dark as far as the OT series went.

I haven't voted, but I just can't help it. Night of the Dark Turtle was just such a great episode to me. It gets my vote. *goes to rewatch the ep*

Herald7 02-01-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 907680)
This alone is why I loved the episode so much. I'd go as far to say that this is one of the best episodes of the entire series. It was so wonderful seeing that side of Donny and hinting that he really does have a dark side. He was definitely homicidal and would've killed Shredder if it hadn't have been for Raph and Leo butting in and stuff. That was pretty dark as far as the OT series went.

I also love that classic TV logic that the cure for a massive electric shock is another massive electric shock, lol. :teek:

Foot Soldier Clang 02-01-2012 11:32 PM

And I love how as the Dark Turtle, Donny gained a muscular humanoid body while wearing his costume :tlol:

Herald7 02-01-2012 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Foot Soldier Clang (Post 907747)
And I love how as the Dark Turtle, Donny gained a muscular humanoid body while wearing his costume :tlol:

And how Donny said he's "sick of stupid masks"...but apparently he wasn't that sick of them because he was wearing one under the Dark Turtle mask. :lol:

ssjup81 02-02-2012 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Herald7 (Post 907722)
I also love that classic TV logic that the cure for a massive electric shock is another massive electric shock, lol. :teek:

:tgrin:

Anywho, even though this is one of my all-time favorite eps and feel that it's definitely one of the best eps of the entire series, I did have one major problem with the ep...Shredder. When going up against Donny as the Dark Turtle, Shredder didn't even put up much of a fight. Seemed out of character, along with his needing gangsters to get past the out-of-shape security guards at that lab. As a "ninja", he should've been able to take all of them out and get inside or use his "ninja skill and cunning" to just sneak in.
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Originally Posted by Herald7 (Post 907760)
And how Donny said he's "sick of stupid masks"...but apparently he wasn't that sick of them because he was wearing one under the Dark Turtle mask. :lol:

Maybe he realized he looked like a Battletoad without it. :lol:

Herald7 02-03-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 907827)
:tgrin:

Anywho, even though this is one of my all-time favorite eps and feel that it's definitely one of the best eps of the entire series, I did have one major problem with the ep...Shredder. When going up against Donny as the Dark Turtle, Shredder didn't even put up much of a fight.



Yeah I think that was just a time management issue. He got sacrificed to the Triceratons plot.

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Maybe he realized he looked like a Battletoad without it. :lol:
Lol, yeah good call, Don. :tlol:

Galactus 02-06-2012 08:30 AM

It's a toss up between Night of the Dark Turtle and Legend of Koji. I went with the former as it got less votes and it wowed me as a kid when I first saw it as someone who was getting bored of TMNT.

Hilly 02-19-2012 04:59 PM

for me it's a toss up between the legend of Koji and Revenge of the Fly. I picked the former because the guys looked great in those outfits

Jephael 02-21-2012 12:07 PM

I went with the Dirk Savage episode. I just love all the recurring characters like Mondo Gecko and the Punk Frogs, plus we even got an animated version of Tokka and Rahzar! Pity they didn't use Mona Lisa for this ep though.

Jelly Bean 02-22-2012 10:58 AM

I have a soft spot for the star child. probably because quartz has the same voice as Buttercup from the PPG and Tommy from RR. I don't know why but I enjoy seeing the turtles having to interact with children. 80's Raphael obviously does not have the same patients for children everyone else has.

MikeandRaph87 03-07-2012 09:51 AM

I question Zack's appearance and Tempestra's inclusion but aside from that its my favorite overall episode. Villain team vs TMNT and a vengeful Shredder what else could a TMNT fan ask for?:tsmile:

This season had the best overall episode set. All-star characters and great plots with action and fun with a bit of a dark overtone.Best season of the best show and yes that is including the European Vacation.

Killer Moth 03-07-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Herald7 (Post 907760)
And how Donny said he's "sick of stupid masks"...but apparently he wasn't that sick of them because he was wearing one under the Dark Turtle mask. :lol:

Maybe it was some comic book irony or hypocrisy that Wise was engaging in?

Choosing a favorite from this season is incredibly difficult, as visually, I got to go with Dark Turtle -- Batman parody, a nice spotlight of Don and the Triceratons. The Triceratons were handled well, especially with their honor code (not wanting to attack fellow reptiles). Clearly, they deserved their own separate episode rather than be shoe-horned in, elsewhere. What was done however, I can't complain.

Same with "Rogues," as it could only be done later in the series, when the Turtles have enough of a separate rogue's gallery beyond Krang/Shredder. I'd rank it higher, except for the ending, as it was too rushed. Same with "Revenge of the Fly" and "The Starchild" for different reasons. (The former having to do with status quo of Baxter being a mutant and the latter having to do with "how did Splinter get an accurate costume of Quark's father?")

Story-wise, it would be "Koji" for Shredder handling matters all by himself (and doing a good job) and finally getting the Oroku surname right among other things. Plus, the episode's beginning for the dub parody. Cam Clarke must have been amused, as per his anime work.

I don't want to ignore the others, yet it's hard to choose. It's one of the good kind of dilemmas that I wish I would have more often with a season.

NameGoesHere1066 03-16-2012 09:46 AM

the Star Child! I love them all but who can resist a episode with Tommy Pickles as a flying alien child!

For some odd reason this episode reminded me of Lone Raph and Cub from the 2k3 series. It think it was the way Raphael interacted with Quartz.


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