So if the Nick show is going to have lots of mutants
 

...I prefer if they don't create any more lame/stupid ones. Or even worse, make them all bug/insect creatures like the 4kids series did during the Notes of the Underground arc.

Mutants I'd like to see return:

Bebop and Rocksteady
Rahzar and Tokka
Slash
Groundchuck and Dirtbag

Mutants I'd like to see make a TV series debut:

Old Hob
Armaggon


Nick has a lot of good characters to work with already, I'd like to see the return of these characters rather than some new lamer mutants.

I wouldn't mind a Bebop and Rocksteady, but their character would have to be altered in order to fit the tone Nick is aiming for.

As cool as it is to see some old mutants return, I also want to see what Nick can come up with. Who knows, maybe they can create a cool new character!:tcool:

I seriously doubt the Nick show will be any darker than the original cartoon. Maybe less 4th wall breaking, but that's it.

Its already easy to tell it'll be lighter than the 4kids series.

I know it's not going to be 2k3 or comic series dark (or anything near that). If they are in it, I wouldn't expect them to become major geniuses or mass murderers. I don't know, I guess what I am trying to say is they won't be exactly the same as they are in the OT.:) Maybe a little bit more of a personality added to their characters, you know?

I'm not hoping for a dark series at all. I'm hoping for a fun action-comedy series that will allow itself to be serious at times. I don't want too many long story arcs. I like self contained episodes. That being said I hope for lots of mutants of all kinds. The more the better. Bring back everyone from the OT, 2k3, and even TNM. I am curious to see how nick uses mutagen to create new mutants.

I have to admit I am looking for something along that tone that you mentioned above, Foot Soldier Clang! I love light hearted adventures with a touch of seriousness thrown in here and there! :tgrin:

Maybe the mutagen was being used on other animals and people through experimentation?

I want the exact opposite of this. No offense to you but I prefer story arcs, deeper story telling, and not to have silly mutants running all over.

With that said I'm prepared to get something that doesn't have any of that and will probably be only a few notches above doing slap stick regularly.

I am personally not expecting anything as dark at times as 2k3 but would really like something with same a similar tone to the new Thundercats series. It's silly at time, but also dramatic and full of action and it takes itself and it's character seriously.

I love both the 4Kids and the OT but don't really want to see a rehash of either, I want to see something new, kind of like what the IDW comic is doing!

Well maybe we'll get lucky and have what we both want. I've seen that nick Kung Fu Panda show, and I kinda like it, and it is what I described what I want the new Turtles show to be, but its also a bit drab. Maybe we'll get something that starts off slow, and kid friendly, but become heavier in story. Like Transformers Prime. I expected nothing from the beginning of it, but now I really enjoy it.

I would really like a slow progression to a grande season finale if thats the case, but I also want there to be lots of mutants, but only if they serve the plot accordingly. From the images I've seen though, I can't imagine this new show going for the deeper darker plots. I do hope it does get a nice strong story here and there though, if nothing else.

I wouldnt mind seeing a bunch of mutants or even a mutant army. I think the mutant army would be pretty awesome

Not if Senator Kelley has anything to say about it!

I hope the show doesnt take itself too seriously, that's one of the absolute failings of the 4Kids cartoon and why nobody in the mainstream cares about the comics. TMNT is a ridiculous premise, so embrace the sillyness. I don't want the Fred Wolf 'Toon replicated 100%, but the "deepness" and "complexity" isnt what makes this franchise succesful, it's a choice component.

Something like Jackie Chan Adventures would do. A set mission that the characters take with a degree of seriousness, but overall have different ideas on how to tackle...some want to be cautious about things (Leo, Splinter, Don, April), some just want to dive in out of arrogrance or overenthusiasticness (Raph, Mikey).

I echo other forum members when I saw I would like mutant characters that had only a one Apearance in the OT(Mona Lisa for example but completely updated).

I saw nothing wrong with the seriousness of the 4kids cartoon, and it did not fail in my opinion, I really loved the 4kids cartoon...

Plus I could never find the comics at my stores, really sad

on the topic of mutants, I wouldn't mind seeing Tokka and Rahzar.

So is Thundercats and both series manage to take themselves somewhat seriously.

Also considering the amount of seasons it lasted I wouldn't call the 4Kids show a failure. Was it as popular as the OT no, but seriously what out there is now?

Kids have so many choices for entertainment currently that you just don't see the massive hype devoted to single properties anymore.

I don't expect the show to be as dark as the 2k3 series, but if it were light and comical I'd tune out after the first couple of episodes. Hopefully it'll be more like the new Thundercats show in tone.

Be cool to see Ray Filet make the move from Comic to Cartoon :)

Also I'd LOVE to see Bebop and Rocksteady fight agenst (and beat) Tokka and Rahzar
to win thier spots as Shredder's Henchmen.

I'd like pretty much everyone people have listed (Bebop, Rocksteady, Ray Filet, Armaggon, Old Hob, etc.) :trazz:


I'd also kind of like to see something done with Sisyphus (from the Genesis version of Tournament Fighters)

Nobody in the mainstream cares about it. It's a niche show that only kids (who have likley already forgotten about it) and fans love. Succesful shows have an imprint on the public consciousness. The 4Kids cartoon failed to accomplish that.

Lasted a long time, but then so did Early Edition and VIPER, and nobody remembers them either, except geeks like me.

The Fred Wolf show left an impint in the public's consciousness because it was a huge fad, not just the show itself but the mass merchendising and the success of the movie etc.

When was the last time a children's TV show reached that level anyway? Pokemon would probably be it and that paled in comparison to Power Rangers as that paled in comparison to TMNT before it. It just doesn't seem to happen anymore.

How many adult that don't have or work with children know what kids are into right now? As is my understanding Ben10 was/is popular with kids but adults and the greater media are only vaguely aware of it? Does that mean the show is a failure? It's popular with it's target audience, sells a fair bit of merchendise and will probably be remembered fondly when the kids become adults just like most saturday morning cartoons.

Pokemon is far bigger than TMNT or Power Rangers. The new games consistently sell in the millions within a few weeks, the anime is in its 15th season and has 730 episodes...and there are now 15 pokemon movies.

Pokemon has almost surpassed Mario as Nintendo's top selling franchise, and considering Mario had like a 15 year head-start on Pokemon, that says a lot.

Pokemon has certainly had more continued success but back when it was big in the media it's success paled in comparison to TMNT's. I remember reading one of their movies barely broke even in North America.

If it wasn't so big in Japan I'd imagine the cartoon and the movies would have been gone long ago. The games are a different kettle of fish entirely, I barely watched the show but bought the first few games for the game boy. They had a reputation as being quality games is all.

TMNT definitely has much more marquee value than Pokemon outside Japan despite Pokemon's franchise being a lot healthier.

That's an exaggeration. Though the Pokemon reign of terror may not have lasted as long, it was as big without a doubt.

Pokemon was still bigger. 15 years with no break or dead period, unlike other franchises.

Also the anime somehow continues year after year well after the fad period ended. It's actually hard to believe the show has 730 episodes now.

Not sure I agree. Maybe because I was in my mid teens when Pokemon hit so wasn't in the thick of it but TMNT was inescapable it never seemed that with Pokemon.

It could be a regional thing as I'm aware Pokemon only a few theatrical releases here in the UK so there may not have been as much interest here as elsewhere. If it proves anything the first TMNT movie made much money than the Pokemon movie did.

It's currently bigger which doesn't mean it always was.

Franchises seem to have break periods. I actualy think it can be a good thing since a company can relaunch their franchise after people have had to get all nostalgic about it.

Not sure it proves anything that the anime has lasted so long. If it wasn't so big in Japan I doubt the anime would still be going elsewhere. Not to mention by it's very nature Pokemon resets itself, when they told all the stories with the initial 150 out comes a new game with new pokemon and Ash suddenly has a new bunch of critters to befriend and on and on it goes. Also don't they rebrand it too or is that just the english dubs?

At the end of the day TMNT made an impression on pop culture that not only can it still get a movie to #1 at the box office but still get a theatrical release. The CGI flick may not have set the world alight but I wouldn't dismiss it..heck isn't it why we're getting a CGI show?

I'm hoping to see plenty of familiar characters from every TMNT universe as well as some great new characters created by Nickelodeon.

I hope the show snuggles in somewhere between the OT and the 4K series, and I wouldn't mind if they did their own take on some familiar television or comic book stories.

Oh, and Usagi Yojimbo has to show up at least once. :)

I would love to see Bebop and rock steady, i haven't gotten any of the new comic series yet :tcry: but old hob sounds like a cool character. i also wouldn't mind more female mutants, just not turtles that to magic or any thing like that, and they shouldn't be classified as a main character, only some one who pops up ever so often, like maybe three times a season.