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CyberCubed 02-12-2012 10:46 PM

Could the Turtles take down Batman?
 
http://www.megatokyo.com/extra/batmanVsTmnt.jpg

All 4 Turtles against Batman, could they do it?

oldmanwinters 02-12-2012 10:48 PM

Not a chance.

Andrew NDB 02-12-2012 10:48 PM

No. No, they could not.

Jester 02-12-2012 10:52 PM

Haven't we done this before?
:roll:

CyberCubed 02-12-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 912283)
No. No, they could not.

4 highly trained ninja's vs. 1 highly trained ninja.

oldmanwinters 02-12-2012 10:57 PM

I refer to the old joke about "how do you kill a vampire?"

The true answer is not "garlic," "stake to the heart," or anything elaborate like that.

The true answer is "any freakin' way you want, because vampires aren't real."

The same logic could be applied to this pointless question.

That said, characters of fiction evolve in the popular consciousness due to established "rules" that their creators and fans have contributed to their mythos.

The Batman myth currently reigns supreme over all other super-heroes and comic book characters.

Regardless of the combined "skill" of our four favorite mutant terrapins, Batman will always continue to win this hypothetical question because he can say one thing no other character of fiction can say...

Spoiler:
"I'm Batman."

TurtleTitan97 02-12-2012 10:59 PM

I would have to go with Batman since he has had much more years of training than the turtles.

Foot Soldier Clang 02-12-2012 11:04 PM

I think I see Godzilla in that picture... I'm pretty sure Godzilla would win this fight.

Logan 02-12-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 912289)
The Batman myth currently reigns supreme over all other super-heroes and comic book characters.

Regardless of the combined "skill" of our four favorite mutant terrapins, Batman will always continue to win this hypothetical question because he can say one thing no other character of fiction can say...

Spoiler:
"I'm Batman."

In a nutshell, quite true. Batman can beat anybody. Anybody. I remember reading the JLA guide book and reading a caption of how Batman discovered all the weaknesses of his JLA mates in case he had to take them out. He's nothing if not prepared for the worst.

Jester 02-12-2012 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Foot Soldier Clang (Post 912295)
I think I see Godzilla in that picture... I'm pretty sure Godzilla would win this fight.

Oh, is that what that is... :P

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Originally Posted by Logan
In a nutshell, quite true. Batman can beat anybody. Anybody. I remember reading the JLA guide book and reading a caption of how Batman discovered all the weaknesses of his JLA mates in case he had to take them out. He's nothing if not prepared for the worst.

And we call that, "Paranoia."

Kendamu 02-12-2012 11:29 PM

Paranoia isn't so bad when it makes you properly prepared to be zapped back in time while simultaneously being killed in the present so that you can fight your way back to the present just in time for a relaunch.

Andrew NDB 02-12-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 912286)
4 highly trained ninja's vs. 1 highly trained ninja.

But he's a genius tactician and genius... well, everything. He plans for every possible outcome of just about anything.

And the four Turtles have taken on and engaged dozens upon dozens of Foot soldiers, great... but Batman has taken on the entire League of Assassins' worth of ninjas single-handedly and still come out on top.

And he's beaten Superman. And Darkseid.

Redeemer 02-12-2012 11:45 PM

Im going with TMNT!!!!! U know what I think Bat girl, NightWing, and Robin be thrown into the mix for a even match up!

Andrew NDB 02-12-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 912323)
Im going with TMNT!!!!! U know what I think Bat girl, NightWing, and Robin be thrown into the mix for a even match up!

That would be extreme overkill... on the Turtles.

Jester 02-12-2012 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 912325)
That would be extreme overkill... on the Turtles.

Indeed. As it's been said, Batman has plans to take out THE ENTIRE JUSTICE LEAGUE! I'm sure 4 teenage ninjas would be no sweat, for just Bruce.

Herald7 02-13-2012 12:00 AM

Maybe if Donatello became the Dark Turtle again! ;)

Btw I love Raphael's reaction to Batman in that picture, lol. :lol:

Xav 02-13-2012 12:53 AM

Yeah but what version of Batman and the Turtles?

CyberCubed 02-13-2012 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 912345)
Yeah but what version of Batman and the Turtles?

You have to make it fair.

60's Batman Vs. 80's Fred Wolf Turtles

B:TAS Batman Vs. 4kids Turtles

1989 Tim Burton Batman Vs. Movie 1 Turtles

DC comics Batman Vs. Mirage Turtles

Jester 02-13-2012 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 912347)
You have to make it fair.

60's Batman Vs. 80's Fred Wolf Turtles

B:TAS Batman Vs. 4kids Turtles

1989 Tim Burton Batman Vs. Movie 1 Turtles

DC comics Batman Vs. Mirage Turtles

Batman .

Andrew NDB 02-13-2012 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 912347)
You have to make it fair.

60's Batman Vs. 80's Fred Wolf Turtles

B:TAS Batman Vs. 4kids Turtles

1989 Tim Burton Batman Vs. Movie 1 Turtles

DC comics Batman Vs. Mirage Turtles

Those are all fair examples. Sadly (for the Turtles), I believe Batman would win in all of those pairups.

Slap-Happy 02-13-2012 01:14 AM

Remember that Batman trained for years and years under the best teachers and experts in the world, and that the turtles were trained by a rat who remembers the moves he saw his one master do.

CyberCubed 02-13-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 912350)
Those are all fair examples. Sadly (for the Turtles), I believe Batman would win in all of those pairups.

For some reason, I suddenly have the urge to really see 60's Batman in a fight with the Fred Wolf Turtles.

It would be hilarious.

Jester 02-13-2012 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 912350)
Those are all fair examples. Sadly (for the Turtles), I believe Batman would win in all of those pairups.

Well... the FW Turtles might be able to defeat Batman West... maybe.

Slap-Happy 02-13-2012 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 912354)
Well... the FW Turtles might be able to defeat Batman West... maybe.

I think that's the one that they could probably win.

CyberCubed 02-13-2012 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Slap-Happy (Post 912356)
I think that's the one that they could probably win.

Donatello would likely zap Batman into another dimension with his portable portal.

Powder 02-13-2012 01:34 AM

I cant believe this is actually a thread, haha.
It brings to mind this Mitcheroney art. The faint pencil text reads "Yes, it's true! Bigger than Batman!".

http://i43.tinypic.com/2quky7a.jpg

Herald7 02-13-2012 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 912360)
Donatello would likely zap Batman into another dimension with his portable portal.

I agree, adios Batman, you're no match for Donatello's techno babble! :tsmile:

Jester 02-13-2012 01:54 AM

Batman plans for all contingencies, even portable portals.

Luzmagica 02-13-2012 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 912322)
But he's a genius tactician and genius... well, everything. He plans for every possible outcome of just about anything.

....

For a moment I believed you were talking about Leonardo!!! :lol: :twink:

Anyway Im going to vote for my TMNT team....just because a terrapin has nothing to fear from a bat..... :trazz::trazz::trazz: :P

Andrew NDB 02-13-2012 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 912360)
Donatello would likely zap Batman into another dimension with his portable portal.

Like a Phantom Zone Generator that Batman owns? Oh, 60s TV show Batman, right... same as the Fred Wolf series had weird contrivances for Donatello and the others to produce, 60s TV show Batman would pull all sorts of bizarre contraptions from his belt or otherwise.



There's no reason to believe 60s TV show Batman wouldn't have some kind of retarded "Mutant Turtle Repellent" or just happen to have some kind of random retromutagen to revert them to normal turtles.

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Originally Posted by Luzmagica (Post 912368)
For a moment I believed you were talking about Leonardo!!! :lol: :twink:

Anyway Im going to vote for my TMNT team....just because a terrapin has nothing to fear from a bat..... :trazz::trazz::trazz: :P

Whatever that means.

Jester 02-13-2012 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 912369)
Whatever that means.

I think it means on the food chain, Turtle > Bat. *shrugs*

Luzmagica 02-13-2012 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 912369)
Whatever that means.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 912370)
I think it means on the food chain, Turtle > Bat. *shrugs*

Oops!! Nop...sorry for mislead!! :toops::toops::toops:

I mean...Leonardo is also a genius tactician and Don is a genius...As you said about Batman: " But he's a genius tactician and genius... well, everything. He plans for every possible outcome of just about anything."

So then .....Leo "Genius tactician" and Don "Genius" are similar to Batman...adding "Berseker Raph" and "Creative Michelangelo"...I think this team could take down Batman in a fight.

Jester 02-13-2012 02:22 AM

Leo and Don are nowhere near as intelligent or resourceful as Batman. Sorry to say, but true.

Herald7 02-13-2012 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luzmagica (Post 912368)
Anyway Im going to vote for my TMNT team....just because a terrapin has nothing to fear from a bat..... :trazz::trazz::trazz: :P

Good point. ;)

Luzmagica 02-13-2012 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 912372)
Leo and Don are nowhere near as intelligent or resourceful as Batman. Sorry to say, but true.

:o Well...We can not be agree in everything...! :lol: ! ;) I disagree....Also
....Of course I recognize that I can not compare the resources and the education of a millionaire with poor mutant survivors of sewers ... :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herald7 (Post 912373)
Good point. ;)

Thanks!! :tgrin:

Slap-Happy 02-13-2012 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 912372)
Leo and Don are nowhere near as intelligent or resourceful as Batman. Sorry to say, but true.

This.

Also, they're just teenagers. Batman (depending on what version) can be in his late twenties to his sixties and has a ton more experience.

Candy Kappa 02-13-2012 03:38 AM

I'm gonna use the same Bat-fan boys use and say. Batman is just a guy, no superpowers (which is udder bull but a different discussion) He isn't unbeatable.

In a situation where Batman don't have time to formulate a bullet proof plan, the turtles could take him out with team work.


Although Batmam does have the Mary-Sue factor as my girlfriend well put it when I asked her opinion.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 02-13-2012 03:48 AM

Cheating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 912360)
Donatello would likely zap Batman into another dimension with his portable portal.

Or just from New York City back to Gotham City. But that's cheating, just like of Batman would call the other Justice League members.

Ninja Tiptup 02-13-2012 08:08 AM

I think the argument of "experience" is most acceptable.

With team work the turtles would have a fighting chance if Batman doesn't already have a plan. But Batman generally always has a plan.

I've gotta go with Batman. He's kind of like Bishop and we've never seen the turtles even 4 on 1 defeat Bishop in a fight.

I mean if Batman can use his wits to go toe to toe with super powered beings, taking out four decently skilled ninja at once probably wouldn't be difficult for him.

But... there have been some rather wimpy versions of Batman over the years (though mostly in the 60s and 70s). And those Batmen might lose to even the Fred Wolf TMNT much less the Archie, 2003 or Mirage TMNT.

pannoni1 02-13-2012 08:23 AM

Except that Batman Forever is NOT like TOS/B:TAS together, but sure would whip the Movie III turtles' ass. You have parallels with Batman and TMNT pretty well:

Batman= Leonardo
Robin= Donatello
Red Robin= Raphael
Nightwing= Michelangelo
Flamebird= April
Ace the Bat Hound= Casey Jones
Joker= Shredder
Riddler= Baxter
Poison Ivy= Karai
Mr. Freeze= Rocksteady
Harley Quinn= Bebop
Killer Croc= Leatherhead
Catwoman= April from "the Catwoman From Channel 6!"
Batwoman= Venus


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