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Cowabunga Carl 02-19-2012 11:36 PM

Marvel Movie marathon
 
Has anyone done this? Sat down and watched all the movies that lead to Avengers? I'm starting with Iron Man and then going Iron Man 2, Thor, Hulk, and finally Captain America. Since I have tonight off and tomorrow I thought it would be fun. What do you think of the order of movies, would you switch any around?

UsagiYojimbo 02-19-2012 11:43 PM

I think you should watch HULK before Iron Man 2... after all, it takes place roughly at the same time as IM2. ;)

Jester 02-19-2012 11:50 PM

Hulk should at least come before Thor... before Iron Man 2...yeah why not. It breaks up the Iron Man flicks.

UsagiYojimbo 02-19-2012 11:57 PM

yeah I would watch IM, Hulk, IM2, Thor, then Cap... Though, I seem to be the only person on the planet who disliked Captain America :ohwell:

Cowabunga Carl 02-20-2012 12:07 AM

Trust me your not the only one who disliked Captain America. Out of all the movies so far I think it is the worst one. Maybe it's the fact that it's the most cheesy one that bothers me. The others work so hard to be taken serious and place things in a real context while Captain America just seems like it's tongue in cheek.

I figured the two Iron Man movies first because Farvue said that IM2 comes before Hulk. It makes since too since that is when Tony becomes the "consultant".

Jester 02-20-2012 12:19 AM

I really liked the tone of Cap. The USO show was awesome. I loved The Star Spangled man with a Plan... but I've got weird taste.

"Series E Defense Bonds. Each one you buy is a bullet in the barrel of your best guy's gun!"

Also I really respected Steve Rogers BEFORE he became Captain America. The guy had heart, or as they'd say in the 40's, "The kid's got moxie!"

UsagiYojimbo 02-20-2012 12:36 AM

Yeah that was my problem with it... the tone. Rogers became unlikeable after his transformation. I also felt like they tried to have the Doctor/Cap relationship mirror what happened to Tony Stark with Yinsen (but without the same resonance). Not a terrible movie, but I definitely agree with Old Hob in saying it's the weakest of the lot.

Cowabunga Carl 02-20-2012 12:41 AM

Steve is the most unlikable out of the leads too. And that's saying something. He should be the everyman after all but Tony, Bruce, and Thor are more relatable. It's going to be interesting to see the interaction between them in the Avengers as you should be feeling sorry for him being a man out of time.

UsagiYojimbo 02-20-2012 12:52 AM

You're right! Maybe it's the portrayal by the actor. Not that I have anything against him... Chris evans? For me, I kinda of think of Cap as Marvel's Superman in a way... the sort of that guy that is so good, you can't help but like him. But the movie didn't pull that off, at least not for me.

gobo 02-20-2012 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Hob (Post 915392)
Has anyone done this? Sat down and watched all the movies that lead to Avengers? I'm starting with Iron Man and then going Iron Man 2, Thor, Hulk, and finally Captain America. Since I have tonight off and tomorrow I thought it would be fun. What do you think of the order of movies, would you switch any around?

Doing that in April, one per weekend leading up to the premiere. No clue why you're doind them in that order though.

Cowabunga Carl 02-20-2012 01:07 AM

IM and IM2 are basically one movie I feel. Then doing Thor before Hulk because I view the thunder storm in Hulk as the bridge that sent Thor to earth. So I could watch either of them but I like both of those equally. And finally Captain America because it leads right into the Avengers.

Jester 02-20-2012 02:02 AM

Silly question for the guys not overly impressed with Captain America: did you guys watch The Rocketeer and if so, did you like it? I ask because they share a director and a style, not to mention a time period.

Cowabunga Carl 02-20-2012 02:10 AM

It has been years since I saw it. I was just a little kid when it came out in theaters and that was the only time I've ever seen it. I should rent it again as I remember it being a fun movie.

It's not that I don't like Captain America, more I just don't think it fits with the other Marvel Movies. As it's own film it's fun, as part of a narrative leading to a bigger story it seems lacking.

Jester 02-20-2012 02:31 AM

I can understand that. For me it was a pitch perfect WWII movie. I thought it was a fun war movie. Maybe not a superhero movie so much, but very fun.

The one I liked the least was probably Thor, but he's also the hero I know the least about. That and there were tons of secondary characters, kinda putting Thor in the background of his own movie at times. Again, good movie, just not my favorite. Love Kenneth Branagh though. Great actor/director.

gobo 02-20-2012 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 915435)
Silly question for the guys not overly impressed with Captain America: did you guys watch The Rocketeer and if so, did you like it?

Never saw it or even wanted to.

Jester 02-20-2012 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 915441)
Never saw it or even wanted to.

Give it a go. You may be surprised. I actually really liked it, though to be honest I only really added it to my collection because of my love of Jennifer Connelly.

UsagiYojimbo 02-20-2012 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 915435)
Silly question for the guys not overly impressed with Captain America: did you guys watch The Rocketeer and if so, did you like it?

I enjoyed that slightly more than Cap. Cap for me is a 6/10.... the Rocketeer is a 7.

Candy Kappa 02-20-2012 03:37 AM

I've not had an Marvel Marathon, but. If you are going for an Marathon I'd guess going for the movie-verse films would make things easier, and not all of them :P

Captain America had a perfect tone for a Marvel flick. It isa superhero film, and superhero films are about men and women in tights fighting megalomaniacs in tights, no matter how serious things are.

was really happy they didn't go for the "realistic" portrayal Cap as he is on the Ultimate comics, that guy is a complete douche

Cowabunga Carl 02-20-2012 11:21 AM

I watched Iron Man last night and started Iron Man 2 but feel asleep. Just woke up and am finishing it up.

For me the best part of Captain America was the Red Skull. Weaving is just amazing as the character but I feel the end was cheap. I'm looking forward to more Skull later on in the series.

I would have liked to see Captain America more like the Ultimate Cap. Yeah he's a douche but it makes since. He is from the 40s/50s and now he is in a world that can't be more different. That would take a toll on a man I believe and his reaction and personality to me make since.

Candy Kappa 02-20-2012 01:39 PM

have to agree to disagree there. I prefer my Cap Golden/Silver age-ish.

When Ultimate Cap said it was a-okay to slaughter children, it was the final nail on the whole Ult. Universe for me

The Stryker 02-20-2012 02:37 PM

Nobody should watch Iron Man 2 again.

Cowabunga Carl 02-20-2012 02:40 PM

What book was that in? I don't remember Ultimate Cap saying it was okay to kill kids.

Iron Man 2 isn't a bad movie it's just to much of a setup for the things to come. The Whiplash story ends up taking a back seat.

Candy Kappa 02-20-2012 03:07 PM

I don't remember the title, but it was during Ultimate War, when they where capturing Xavier and the X-Men

Cowabunga Carl 02-20-2012 03:11 PM

I'll have to wait to get my copy of that from Seattle. It's in storage at the moment. I remember vaguely now what your talking about. I believe he was talking about the X-men at the time and how they were fighting back and not holding back. He was just saying to level the field or at least thats how I took it.

Watching Thor now and have to say I love the scene when Odin rescues them and then the argument they have right before Thor is banished. It is probably one of the most powerful scenes on film, more then likely because of Anthony Hopkins.

Slap-Happy 02-20-2012 03:16 PM

What are you watching next? Thor and Incredible Hulk take place around the same time.

Cowabunga Carl 02-20-2012 03:23 PM

Hulk after Thor and then Cap.

My Dad showed up at my place so I'm a little behind where I want to be. I view Thor and Hulk happening at the same time and that's why Agent Coulson isn't in Hulk.

sdp 02-20-2012 03:31 PM

I view all the Marvel superhero movies (1999-Present) taking place in one universe, and no person is going to have me believe otherwise, I'll listen to no logic.. Some slight continuity errors but for the most part they work. I guess Ultimate Spiderman will ruin it for me.

Candy Kappa 02-20-2012 03:34 PM

even both Punisher films? :P

Cowabunga Carl 02-20-2012 03:38 PM

I like the Thomas Jane Punisher film. The Directors cut of that is actually pretty good. Also dug War Zone, it wasn't as good as the first I thought though. Heck I even like the Directors Cut of Daredevil and Ghost Rider.

Candy Kappa 02-20-2012 03:39 PM

I like both Punisher films, but they are in a different continuity

Cowabunga Carl 02-20-2012 03:42 PM

I think that you can "force" them into the same continuity. It's a little tough but do able.

I think my biggest complaint with Thor is that Volstagg isn't big enough.

gobo 02-20-2012 03:48 PM

Out of curiosity, why now? Avengers isn't out 'til May, right? O_o

Cowabunga Carl 02-20-2012 03:54 PM

cause I just had the urge to do it and the time to too. I don't have much down time so I thought I'd take advantage of it.

Candy Kappa 02-20-2012 04:03 PM

Speaking of Volstagg, I almost fell of my chair when I found out he was played by the same guy playing Punisher in War Zone

I'm horrible at names but Volstagg looked like some one I had seen before, but that darn beard...

sdp 02-20-2012 04:04 PM

Yeah I force both Punisher and Hulk movies together and they both mostly work well as sequels if it wasn't for the contradicting re-telling of the origin. I think both Punisher movies are awesome and both are opposites of each other.

I hope if the Avengers is a success Fox tries to make a crossover movie with X-Men/F4/DD and Sony with Spider-Man/Ghostrider. I fail to see why they wouldn't cash-in on the cross over hype that Marvel Studios started. I guess at this point it's more likely for them to lose the rights to some of those characters and Marvel to get them back. Personally I hope it doesn't happen, it's not like Marvel would be making movies for ALL those characters at once, if different companies have them the chance of them having movies is better. I loved crazy Nic in Ghost Rider and from what I heard the second one is not too different which is good for me but bad for everyone else. I also enjoyed the DC of DD though it's the only version I've seen.

I've yet to watch Thor/Caps but I took so long that I decided might as well wait until the Avengers movie to come out to watch them all. I liked IM2, it plays it safe but it's still entertaining. I found Hulk on the other hand very boring and inferior to Ang Lee's version.

Candy Kappa 02-20-2012 04:07 PM

With First Class, it seems like marvel Studios are sneaking in and help the other studios how to make a superhero movie :lol:

Cowabunga Carl 02-20-2012 04:36 PM

First Class is by far the best movie that Fox has made with the X-men. It seemed people actually took the time to get to know the characters they had and personalities right. I'm really excited to see where they go from there.

See I love Ed Nortons Hulk as was very angry when they replaced him. But it's not this new actors fault so I'm just waiting to see what he does with Banner/Hulk.

UsagiYojimbo 02-20-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Hob (Post 915566)
Hulk after Thor and then Cap.

My Dad showed up at my place so I'm a little behind where I want to be. I view Thor and Hulk happening at the same time and that's why Agent Coulson isn't in Hulk.

Yeah if you watch that scene in Iron Man 2... you'll see bits of "The Hulk" having his rampage on the college campus on the TV behind Stark and Nick Fury. So I guess Hulk is simultaneous with IM2, as are some of the events in Thor. :)

The Stryker 02-21-2012 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Hob (Post 915547)
Iron Man 2 isn't a bad movie it's just to much of a setup for the things to come. The Whiplash story ends up taking a back seat.

That's exactly why it IS a bad movie. It's barely a movie at all. It's just a really long and boring commercial for Avengers. Also Don Cheadle is completely flat as Rhodes.

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 915581)
I hope if the Avengers is a success Fox tries to make a crossover movie with X-Men/F4/DD and Sony with Spider-Man/Ghostrider. I fail to see why they wouldn't cash-in on the cross over hype that Marvel Studios started.

Why the hell would they shackle Spider-man with Ghost Rider? Besides it not making any damn sense from a thematic sense, Ghost Rider movies don't make any money. All they would be doing is hurting their Spider-man cash.

I want to hear a coherent pitch for a X-men/F4/Daredevil crossover. Seriously. I want someone to try and make sense out of that mess.

Jephael 02-21-2012 11:58 AM

I'd love to see Spidey team up with Captain America and/or Iron Man!


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