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Raph's Girl 02-26-2012 10:36 PM

2012 Oscar Winners
 
Best Cinematography: Hugo
Art Direction: Hugo
Costume Design: Mark Bridges for The Artist
Make-up: The Iron Lady
Foreign Language Film: A Seperation (from Iran)
Supporting Actress: Octavia Spencer for The Help (YAY!!!!)
Achievement in Editing: Girl With the Dragon Tattoo
Achievement in Sound Editing: Hugo
Achievement in Sound Mixing: Hugo
Best Documentary: Undefeated
Best Animated Feature film: Rango
Visual Effects: Hugo
Supporting Actor: Christopher Plummer for Beginner
Original Score: Ludovic Bource for The Artist
Original Song: Bret McKenzie for Man or a Muppet
Adapted Screenplay: Alexander Payne, Nat Faxon, Jim Rash for The Descendants
Original Screenplay: Woody Allen for Midnight in Paris
Live action short film: The Shore
Best Documentary short: Saving Face
Best Animated short film: The Fantastic Flying Books of Mr. Morris Lessmore
Directing: Michel Hazanavicius for The Artist
Lead Actor: Jean Dujardin for The Artist
Lead Actress: Meryl Streep for The Iron Lady
Best Film: The Artist

Jester 02-26-2012 10:48 PM

Yea for Man or a Muppet!! But The Artist for best picture of the year... is it really that good or just "artsy"?

Slap-Happy 02-26-2012 10:50 PM

From what I've seen, I wouldn't call it "artsy". A lot of people seem to enjoy it.

Dirty Blond 02-26-2012 10:55 PM

Woody Allen!

Jester 02-26-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slap-Happy (Post 917855)
From what I've seen, I wouldn't call it "artsy". A lot of people seem to enjoy it.

I guess I need to look at the list, but then again, I'm sure I've seen exactly 0 of the 9 films.

EDIT: No, wait... I did see The Help.

Slap-Happy 02-26-2012 11:00 PM

Really don't see why Octavia Spencer won. I actually would've liked to see Melissa McCarthy win.

And either Transformers or Rise of the Planet of the Apes should've won best visual effects.

Ninjinister 02-26-2012 11:27 PM

Good for Bret. I haven't seen Muppets but I know the man's work is always fantastic.

Apparently, Chris Rock said something during the festivities that sent all of my voice actor friends into a rage. My Twitter and and Facebook haven't seen this much hate since SOPA.

Jester 02-26-2012 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ninjinister (Post 917871)
Apparently, Chris Rock said something during the festivities that sent all of my voice actor friends into a rage. My Twitter and and Facebook haven't seen this much hate since SOPA.

Hmm, I may have to investigate this... ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Rock
In the world of animation, you can be anything you wanna be. If you’re a fat woman, you can play a skinny princess. If you’re short wimpy guy, you can play a tall gladiator. If you’re a white man, you can play an Arabian prince. And if you’re a black man, you can play a donkey or a zebra.

I don't know... it's not that nasty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by More Chris Rock
I hate when people go on TV and tell you how hard it is to do animation … No, UPS is hard work. I’ve done some animation … It’s the easiest job in the world. I go in a booth and I go, ‘what’s the line?’ And the guy goes, ‘it’s time to go to the store.’ And I go, ‘it’s time to go to the store!’ … And then they give me a million dollars

Ok...maybe that's a bit much...

Ninjinister 02-27-2012 12:06 AM

Wait wouldn't "doing animation" mean you're making the character move and interact? This is actually the first time I'd seen the quote in its entirety, so that really threw me.

Jester 02-27-2012 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ninjinister (Post 917880)
Wait wouldn't "doing animation" mean you're making the character move and interact? This is actually the first time I'd seen the quote in its entirety, so that really threw me.

You're correct. "Doing animation" would entail actually making individual images look like they are moving. What Chris Rock did was "animation voice over." But you can't expect him to know that, he's just an actor...

Leonardo Mystic 02-27-2012 12:58 AM

I watched part of it, mainly to see who won Animated feature. I was hoping Puss in Boots, but what Mr. Chris Rock said about animation voice overs ruffled my feathers. I couldn't tell if he was being serious or poking fun, but voice acting is just as hard work as anything else.

It can take several tries to find the tone directors are looking for of what that particular character has to sound like. And sometimes those VAs don't always succeed. They may get casted as another character in mind or more than likely dismissed entirely. It's more than just saying a line any old way and getting paid "a million dollars".

Perhaps Mr. Rock needs to go attend a voice acting panel at the next anime convention that comes to town.

Roseangelo 02-27-2012 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ninjinister (Post 917871)
Apparently, Chris Rock said something during the festivities that sent all of my voice actor friends into a rage. My Twitter and and Facebook haven't seen this much hate since SOPA.

He said that voice work is easy and that all you do is stand in a both and talk into a microphone the lines that someone tells you to say.

The Stryker 02-27-2012 07:52 AM

Chris Rock is awesome. Spot on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonardo Mystic (Post 917897)
I watched part of it, mainly to see who won Animated feature. I was hoping Puss in Boots, but what Mr. Chris Rock said about animation voice overs ruffled my feathers. I couldn't tell if he was being serious or poking fun, but voice acting is just as hard work as anything else.

It can take several tries to find the tone directors are looking for of what that particular character has to sound like. And sometimes those VAs don't always succeed. They may get casted as another character in mind or more than likely dismissed entirely. It's more than just saying a line any old way and getting paid "a million dollars".

Perhaps Mr. Rock needs to go attend a voice acting panel at the next anime convention that comes to town.

You do realize that Rock has done a lot of voice work right? Madagascar dawg! He knows alittle something and doesn't need to learn anything from dubbers.

BubblyShell22 02-27-2012 07:59 AM

Wow. Hugo really picked up a lot of awards. I really want to see that movie, too because it looks good. I'm glad Octavia won for The Help. I haven't seen that movie either, but I read the book.

ZariusTwo 02-27-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonardo Mystic (Post 917897)
I watched part of it, mainly to see who won Animated feature. I was hoping Puss in Boots, but what Mr. Chris Rock said about animation voice overs ruffled my feathers. I couldn't tell if he was being serious or poking fun, but voice acting is just as hard work as anything else.

He was making a joke. Christ stop being so oversensetive

ToTheNines 02-27-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 917873)
Ok...maybe that's a bit much...

I remember hearing Rob Paulsen saying in one of his podcasts (not an exact quote) "No, laying hot tar on the highway is hardwork, I have fun for a living".

Anyone who got offended by what Chris Rock said has never had a real job.

Ninjinister 02-27-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 918021)
I remember hearing Rob Paulsen saying in one of his podcasts (not an exact quote) "No, laying hot tar on the highway is hardwork, I have fun for a living".

Anyone who got offended by what Chris Rock said has never had a real job.

I think the point wasn't that voice acting is excruciatingly painful, it's the fact that he made it seem like it's a complete and utter cakewalk - not to mention the fact that he gets more for voicing in one movie than any of them get in their careers. I mean think about it - nobody wants to hear others, especially relative outsiders, make it seem like what they do for a living is trivial or simple. Would you?

I think this guy got the best take on it, though:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Eiding
Chris Rock is a comedian, NOT a vo actor. He's a funny dude...with one voice. If he makes a ton of money for being himself, God bless him. Hard for me to be offended by someone who doesn't really understand what we (vo actors) do.


ToTheNines 02-27-2012 02:56 PM

I feel you. But he's a comedian... I think everyone knows that they should be taken lightly.

Nick Swardson doesn't really feed his cat diarrhea.

And to spruce up what I said earlier: Anyone who gets offended by what any comedian says is a turd.

Ninjinister 02-27-2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 918101)

Nick Swardson doesn't really feed his cat diarrhea.

-Citation Needed-

Anyway, I feel this has gone way-off topic, and I apologize for derailing the thread.

Peanut 02-28-2012 12:29 AM

Are people really taking something Chris Rock said at f*cking face value? Jesus...

joe-eyeball 02-28-2012 11:21 AM

How can anyone get offended by what he said? At no point did he mention voice actors. He was making a joke in front of hollywood actors, many of which can relate to what he was saying. I think one can reasonably assume that he more so was comparing it to acting in front of a camera. Its not like you need to gain a lot of weight to voice act for a character that may be overweight. There is a difference.

pannoni1 02-28-2012 11:59 AM

I feel that people should take these award ceremonies as a lesson to see what the real movies that drives the industry forward do. Sure, TMNT could make hundreds of millions in 2014 at the box office, but it's more the "fast food" of the industry, and there is a clear "artistic divide" in the movie industry these days. None of the best picture nominees were blockbusters, and for instance who under 30 (the main moviegoing audience) wants to see "The Artist" that represents their great-grandparents' time? Sadly, the big movie chains focus more on profit rather than quality, which is why we see limited/short release on so many of these Oscar nominees, just so they can get the sixth screen of Cars or Transformers:3 to keep business chugging along. Because of this, I would like to see palaces and drive-ins make a comeback to see what real movies are about, not the cookie-cutter action movies (no offense to that genre) that oversaturate the multiplexes. Still, I enjoyed the Oscars and found it very professional and authentic.

And with regards to the voice actors, this isn't the Annies, as there is no Oscar category for that.

Master Splinter 02-28-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pannoni1 (Post 918492)
...for instance who under 30 (the main moviegoing audience) wants to see "The Artist" that represents their great-grandparents' time?

I do. But I am the exception.

-ms

ToTheNines 02-28-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pannoni1 (Post 918492)
and for instance who under 30 (the main moviegoing audience) wants to see "The Artist" that represents their great-grandparents' time?

What the hell? The Godfather takes place in the 1940's and is one of my favorite movies of all time. Not to mention the countless Westerns I love that take place in the 1800's.

Granted, I have no desire to see The Artist because it's a silent film. Which is a shame, because I love black & white.

Quote:

And with regards to the voice actors, this isn't the Annies, as there is no Oscar category for that.
... you almost got it, didn't ya?

Spitfire 02-28-2012 03:26 PM

Really glad Rango won. The second the credits rolled I said it deserved a win way back when I saw it.

A little bitter about this Oscars. As with the year Children of Men came out I felt Drive got completely robbed with no major nominations what so ever. Ryan Gosling's performance was stellar, the music was perfect, killer cinematography, and the editing was really good. Then Girl With The Dragon Tattoo got a similar treatment. Editing was quite good in that film but I feel it lost out on other awards because it has some scenes the Oscar judges probably didn't enjoy watching very much.

I don't really get it. The whole point of extending the Best Picture category was to include more films the general public wanted to see in there. I saw no such thing happen this year. They picked 5 art house films out of 9. Though one can argue the remaining 4 weren't all the standard fair either. Hugo for example didn't even make back it's budget and while the Help did quite well the others barely made a profit. This meaning most people didn't see them so how could the average person want to see it nominated? Rise of the Planet of the Apes was done quite well. Lots of people saw it and liked it. It could have taken a slot. Just an example but if they extended these slots because people got mad that Dark Knight didn't get a best picture nomination then why waste it by doing what they did this year? Seems like they're going back on it now a little bit.

AT-Man 02-29-2012 08:21 PM

I was hoping for Kung Fu Panda 2 to win but Rango's almost as good.
I liked Hugo but I liked The Artist more, so everything went pretty much as expected, though Transformers 3 shoulda won the visual effects.

Cure 02-29-2012 08:23 PM

I thought Rango was pretty boring. Not even Timothy Olyphant could save that movie for me.

Brodie 02-29-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cure (Post 918911)
Not even Timothy Olyphant could save that movie for me.

That's a damning review for that movie.

Speaks volumes to me, considering I know how much you love Olyphant.

Leo656 03-02-2012 12:58 AM

I hate the Oscars. Who besides the Academy actually watches these movies? I'm pulling for someone to organize the First Annual Movies That People Actually Pay Money To See And Will Remember Existed A Year From Now Awards.

BubblyShell22 03-02-2012 08:26 AM

Yeah, I don't go to see many movies either honestly. I just see the ones that interest me. I never got to see The Help, even though I wanted to. The book was awesome, and I really wanted to see if the movie was identical to the book.

Mom and I just got the Hugo DVD yesterday, and we'll probably watch it this weekend. That movie looks amazing.


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