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Bob 03-13-2012 07:36 PM

New Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Movie Set For Christmas 2013!
 
Its official, Jonathon Liebesman is directing, and they describe it as being a “live-action-CGI combo”. Guess the Turtles and Splinter will be motion-capture, just as I thought. After Planet of the Apes, this is a good decision, IMO. Don’t like the idea of putting it up against The Hobbit part 2, though. That’s a bit iffy. I would have thought TMNT would lend itself to the summer season perfectly.

Oh well, at least we know now it is official. Start getting excited!

http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/para...omment-2340381

Roseangelo 03-13-2012 07:38 PM

SWEET! Glad it's official.

This is actually the news that I was excited about a couple weeks ago, but couldn't share. ^_^

MikeandRaph87 03-13-2012 07:47 PM

Glad to see something is finally on the ground running after changing release dates and writers and over all plot. It all seems promising so cheers to the team and looking forward to more screen time for the Green Team!:D

So now lets start guessing the chances we have of Shredder being involved! I always perferred to have the big bad in thier at least to some capacity.:tcool:

Master Splinter 03-13-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 923535)
Its official, Jonathon Liebesman is directing, and they describe it as being a “live-action-CGI combo”. Guess the Turtles and Splinter will be motion-capture, just as I thought. After Planet of the Apes, this is a good decision, IMO. Don’t like the idea of putting it up against The Hobbit part 2, though. That’s a bit iffy. I would have thought TMNT would lend itself to the summer season perfectly.

Oh well, at least we know now it is official. Start getting excited!

http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/para...omment-2340381

This is great news. Thanks for sharing the link.

–ms

oldmanwinters 03-13-2012 08:06 PM

It's hard to believe that they've finally got their act together for a new film.

I wonder if they'll use the "live-action" turtle costumes in the picture!
http://www-deadline-com.vimg.net/wp-...0314010341.jpg

:tlol:

Uki 03-13-2012 08:21 PM

I just read this at Superherohype.com-although they said that the director wasn't confirmed... In any event, this is AWESOME NEWS!!!!!!

I'm so excited!!!

:)

Andrew NDB 03-13-2012 08:23 PM

Yes, it's good to hear that the "lightening" of the script has been completed to everyone's satisfaction...

CyberCubed 03-13-2012 08:25 PM

The 2013 date will hopefully hold. By that point the Nick cartoon will be in its second season and the IDW comics in its third year....perfect time to kickstart the height of Nick's TMNT era.

Hopefully the movie does well and brings tons of fans to the comics and shows.

Bob 03-13-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 923555)
Yes, it's good to hear that the "lightening" of the script has been completed to everyone's satisfaction...

I've heard of this "lightening" thing before. Care to explain it/who said it? Was it originally too dark?

Also, I read the same story over at Hollywood Reporter and Variety. They also both said it will be a combo of live-action and CGI and, more importantly, they both said that the budget will be 100 million dollars. I must say, for this day and age and for this type of film, 100 million dollars is pretty moderate. Still, it will be easier to make a profit and ensure a franchise this way.

Kendamu 03-13-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 923555)
Yes, it's good to hear that the "lightening" of the script has been completed to everyone's satisfaction...

I don't think any of us have truly been expecting a darker TMNT film for awhile.

Killer Moth 03-13-2012 08:34 PM

For a lark, I decided to look up the release dates of the prior movies. Apparently, they've all been released in March. If Wikipedia is off, feel free to yell at them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage...s_(film_series)

Weird to break tradition like that, but whatever. Glad the project is moving forward, and maybe I can finally have Utrom Baxter on the screen. Heh. Just kidding... mostly.

Jester 03-13-2012 08:39 PM

Why do I even bother reading threads when I see the last poster and can tell what was said.

Example: I saw that Andrew was the last poster in this thread (at one point), so I knew anything said would be about how the movie isn't Mirage and will therefor suck.

Don't even have to open the flippin' thread.

Andrew NDB 03-13-2012 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 923560)
I've heard of this "lightening" thing before. Care to explain it/who said it?

No, not really.

Look, I'm not trying to be Negative Nancy here, but when a person of whose opinion is absolutely paramount in this franchise reads the script and goes, "it's the best Turtles story I've ever read anywhere, period!" and then a few weeks later you hear, "It's being completely rewritten to be lightened up" (when it was already in a PG/barely PG-13 territory)... that kind of gives me cause for concern.

It may be for nothing. It's very possible there's a new vision being brought to light that's even better than before. I hope so, I really do. There's few things that would give me greater joy on the big screen than sitting down with my popcorn and flask (hey, it's like they say: it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it, and watching TMNT movies is a bit like playing Russian Roulette by yourself with like 3 bullets already in the chamber) and watching a truly awesome, definitive TMNT movie.

Bob 03-13-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 923569)
No. Not really.

Look, I'm not being Negative Nancy here, but when a person of whose opinion is absolutely paramount in this franchise reads the script and goes, "it's the best Turtles story I've ever read anywhere, period!" and then a few weeks later you hear, "It's being completely rewritten to be lightened up" (when it was already in a PG/PG-13 territory)... that kind of gives me cause for concern.

It may be for nothing. It's very possible there's a new vision being brought to light that's even better than before. I hope so, I really do.

I don't want you to think I was being confrontational before, I just genuinely didn't know.

Donnie 03-13-2012 09:06 PM

It really sucks that it was rewritten from what was rated so highly by Kevin (that's who said it right?), and that gives me cause for concern too. I just don't understand why they can't do a spin-off of a TMNT movie 1 feel and still please the kiddies. Maybe they are, I dunno. I'm hopeful and just glad this news has been made official, finally!

Question: what does this mash up of CGI/live action mean? Will there actually be guys in costumes or not? I don't understand this in between stuff. Is it like Gollum in LotR?

Andrew NDB 03-13-2012 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Michelangelo (Post 923584)
Question: what does this mash up of CGI/live action mean? Will there actually be guys in costumes or not? I don't understand this in between stuff. Is it like Gollum in LotR?

Given the budget, I'm thinking guys in suits with CGI assists for eyes, lip movements and possible ALL-CGI for quick bits of action that would be awkward/cumbersome/damaging to the costumes to have guys in suits do.

TurtleTitan97 03-13-2012 09:32 PM

Alright, some news! I hope that during this year we get more news on the film.

Jester 03-13-2012 09:44 PM

Mikey, either what Andrew said, or like Rise of the Planet of the Apes, we'll have 4 guys in motion capture suits who are later removed in favor of all CG turtles.

Andrew NDB 03-13-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 923612)
Mikey, either what Andrew said, or like Rise of the Planet of the Apes, we'll have 4 guys in motion capture suits who are later removed in favor of all CG turtles.

Given the budget I'd be really surprised, even shocked if the TMNT we see in the movie the whole time are CGI. Real costumes with CGI assists mean they can save on CGI rendering and save (pretty much entirely) on animatronics while leaning on CGI only where absolutely necessary.

CyberCubed 03-13-2012 09:54 PM

Assuming there are no other mutants in the movie other than the Turtles/Splinter, (and there shouldn't be), I don't see why they can't do it similar to the first live action movie.

CG would be used for the Turtles jumping on rooftops or aerial battles that the costumes couldn't do.

Jester 03-13-2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 923613)
Given the budget I'd be really surprised, even shocked if the TMNT we see in the movie the whole time are CGI. Real costumes with CGI assists mean they can save on CGI rendering and save (pretty much entirely) on animatronics while leaning on CGI only where absolutely necessary.

But the expense of creating the costumes (animatronics not withstanding) might be just as hefty as just removing the mo-capped people and replacing with CG....

But then again, I don't rightly know. I'd assume the suits would need to look pretty real, aside from the faces, and they'd probably be put through heck for stunts.

I guess one way would be to look at the budgets of a CG-assisted costume film vs. a fully CG mo-capped movie.

EDIT: How was Where the Wild Things Are produced? It cost 100 Million, where as Rise of the Planet of the Apes was 93 Million, according to BoxOfficeMojo.com. The cost is similar.

Andrew NDB 03-13-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 923617)
But the expense of creating the costumes (animatronics not withstanding) might be just as hefty as just removing the mo-capped people and replacing with CG....

Not really. You introduce fully CGI characters into a live-action set interacting with live-action actors and actresses and it's to be believable, you're introducing a million variables and millions of dollars in man hours. Light sourcing, 3D mapping onto live action landscapes, and then actual people too? And it's not even in a blue/greenscreen environment that can be manipulated with layers? That's about as painstaking to produce as it gets.

Quote:

EDIT: How was Where the Wild Things Are produced? It cost 100 Million, where as Rise of the Planet of the Apes was 93 Million, according to BoxOfficeMojo.com. The cost is similar.
Where the Wild Things Are is probably the exact template this movie is following. That was all real suits with CGI assists for facial/lip movement. I bet that's what we're getting here, along with maybe a few high-action scenes where they can afford to insert some fully-CGI TMNT going crazy with ninjitsu in a way you just can't if it's a guy -- no matter how capable -- fumbling around mostly blindly in a suit.

sdp 03-13-2012 10:24 PM

Nice to have a date, I think we all wanted summer time but there is always tons of competition then, though that would've meant they were taking it more seriously, I thought they wanted TMNT to be their next "Transformers" but who knows if that's what they're still planning. Christmas 2013 really isn't that far away, about a year and a half away, we should see a teaser poster of some kind by SDCC.


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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 923568)
Why do I even bother reading threads when I see the last poster and can tell what was said.

Example: I saw that Andrew was the last poster in this thread (at one point), so I knew anything said would be about how the movie isn't Mirage and will therefor suck.

Don't even have to open the flippin' thread.


ooohh what about for me? :D

Spitfire 03-13-2012 11:31 PM

Eh I'll believe it when I see the trailer. Also still not thrilled with the choice of director.

Luzmagica 03-14-2012 01:02 AM

Anyway! Nice to have news!!!! :):):) Something is something!!!! :D
Thanks for sharing ! :tcool: :twink:

BubblyShell22 03-14-2012 07:15 AM

Hey, that's awesome news. I'm glad there's a release date for it at least.

Zany Orange Dude 03-14-2012 08:26 AM

Glad to hear we are finally getting some news on this film!:tgrin: Hopefully their will be more in the close future!

ZariusTwo 03-14-2012 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire (Post 923646)
Eh I'll believe it when I see the trailer. Also still not thrilled with the choice of director.

You're not "thrilled" about anything TMNT-related these days. All the more reason to ignore you.

DarkLightDragon 03-14-2012 09:35 AM

Great to hear.:tgrin:


Just gotta wait for trailer to really see how this will shape up.

Baxter Stockmen 03-14-2012 09:57 AM

Glad to see it's getting some progress.

Would really like to see a teaser image or something. Just to see the direction they are going. I've been wanting a dark and gritty TMNT movie for a very long time. :tgrin:

ToTheNines 03-14-2012 10:05 AM

Cool news, not too far away. Good time to be a Turtles fan!

Wish we could get some info on the plot though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 923535)
Don’t like the idea of putting it up against The Hobbit part 2, though. That’s a bit iffy. I would have thought TMNT would lend itself to the summer season perfectly.

Well all movies have competition. If they rushed it and went with summer 2013, it'd be up against Superman, Wolverine, etc. And if they held off until summer 2014, then that runs into Paramount's very own Transformers 4, and whatever else pops up there too (probably the sequel to Amazing Spider-Man).

Xav 03-14-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Michelangelo (Post 923584)
It really sucks that it was rewritten from what was rated so highly by Kevin (that's who said it right?), and that gives me cause for concern too.

When did Kevin say this? Does anyone have a link?

tmntgeoff 03-14-2012 10:16 AM

Im very excited myself i just hope none of the violence is toned down like the secret of the ooze!

I was hoping for a Sin City style movie where everything is black and white except touches of color like the headbands

If they can make a sin city movie like the graphic novel why not tmnt ?

AquaParade 03-14-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tmntgeoff (Post 923767)
Im very excited myself i just hope none of the violence is toned down like the secret of the ooze!

I was hoping for a Sin City style movie where everything is black and white except touches of color like the headbands

If they can make a sin city movie like the graphic novel why not tmnt ?

I agree with you there, dude. That would be awesome.

Quite a few reason's they can't do that though. TMNT is marketed as a very kid-friendly franchise, and kid's love color.


Oh, and yes, I'm stoked to see this moving forward!

Andrew, in the last Kevin interview I saw he discussed how they had a dark script, tried to lighten it, and were now kinda taking it back to the original script idea. So, there is some hope there. Did you ever get a chance to read the first proposed script?

Master Splinter 03-14-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 923766)
When did Kevin say this? Does anyone have a link?

http://mutantooze.org/wiki/?p=2163

He mentions in the video that he read the script and really liked it... Who knows how much of the original script will be used...

-ms

ToTheNines 03-14-2012 10:27 AM

Do we even know if the Nemec/Applebaum script has anything to do with the Fusco script?

pannoni1 03-14-2012 10:40 AM

I feel a Christmas release may benefit Playmates more since it will encourage more to buy the toys in addition. But like the 1990 movie, we need a good first couple seasons of the cartoon to build some hype for this movie. It's nice, but since its down the pike, I'm still more anticipated over the Nick series.

AquaParade 03-14-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter (Post 923775)
http://mutantooze.org/wiki/?p=2163

He mentions in the video that he read the script and really liked it... Who knows how much of the original script will be used...

-ms


But, wait a second! It says that the video was uploaded in November. Unless I missed it, Kevin doesn't clarify when he read the script. It sounds very possible that he read a fairly recent draft and thought it was "...excellent"

Thanks for the Link. I must have missed that if it was posted here last year.

Xav 03-14-2012 11:08 AM

Yeah that video was posted months after the Mi4 guys were hired to rewrite the script.

marcelangelo 03-14-2012 11:43 AM

hey dudes, back when I was sitting at the movies in sin city(twice) I thought that a tmnt movie realized much like sin city but just catching the eastman and laird spirit and art would be a perfect thing,;)great to see you guys share this point of view!...


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