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TurtleMaster4 03-17-2012 07:04 AM

Michal bays new movie might be Teenage Alien Ninja turtles
 
Sorry dudes i hate to complain about things before i see them, i just can't resist, Michael bay is making the turtles aliens. this is terrible! i wonder what else he will do to them, don't believe me, check out this link. :tcry: http://www.stuffwelike.com/2012/03/1...eenage-mutant-
ninja-turtles/


so what do you guys think of this.

Jephael 03-17-2012 09:12 AM

Ever since it was announced Michael Bay had a hand in the film relaunch, I knew something bad would come of it!

ToTheNines 03-17-2012 09:42 AM

God dammit.

Are we really gonna have to hear all this unwarranted Michael Bay hate for the next 2 years? HE DID NOT WRITE THE ****ING SCRIPT! He's not even directing. Viacom had him show off that previs stuff because he's a big name in Hollywood and they want this movie to be a success. Of course they'd rather have him pimping the movie out rather than some other dude from Platinum Dunes that no one's ever heard of in their life.

That being said, this alien business is going to really rub me the wrong way if Utroms are not involved.

Bmaga123 03-17-2012 10:07 AM

Maybe Michael Bay wasnt aware of the TMNT back story and just assumed they were another race from a different planet like the Transformers LOL. I really hope this is the case or I will be very dissapointed :tmad:

tmntgeoff 03-17-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmaga123 (Post 925050)
Maybe Michael Bay wasnt aware of the TMNT back story and just assumed they were another race from a different planet like the Transformers LOL. I really hope this is the case or I will be very dissapointed :tmad:

this is what im thinking too. he probably doesnt know anything about tmnt and just said that

Bob 03-17-2012 10:37 AM

This thread title is very misleading, not to mention exceedingly premature. Michael Bay never said such a thing. We don't really know anything yet. Calm down.

Logan 03-17-2012 10:38 AM

Bay says they are "from an alien race", which could merely mean that they are the product of alien experiments, which is kind of true in the context of the comics (though it was accidental).

Bob 03-17-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 925060)
Bay says they are "from an alien race", which could merely mean that they are the product of alien experiments, which is kind of true in the context of the comics (though it was accidental).

True. I think that the ooze that mutates them is what comes from another planet. Maybe Earth-bound turtles get "infused" with the DNA of another race that resemble humanoid turtles?

Powder 03-17-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 925059)
This thread title is very misleading, not to mention exceedingly premature. Michael Bay never said such a thing. We don't really know anything yet. Calm down.

^^^



Can somebody just delete this thread to avoid further confusion/negativity/stupidity?

Ninjinister 03-17-2012 11:42 AM

Different continuity, different rules.

idgaf

CyberCubed 03-17-2012 12:45 PM

Wow there goes all hope for a good movie.

Why do talentless hacks feel the need to change things that don't need to be changed?

Jephael 03-17-2012 12:54 PM

Wow, for the first time I agree with CyberCubed!

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 925078)
Can somebody just delete this thread to avoid further confusion/negativity/stupidity?

Quit trying to silence everyone you don't agree with! People are allowed to express their concerns.

Kendamu 03-17-2012 01:07 PM

Already being discussed.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=36846

Andrew NDB 03-17-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 925046)
God dammit.

Are we really gonna have to hear all this unwarranted Michael Bay hate for the next 2 years? HE DID NOT WRITE THE ****ING SCRIPT! He's not even directing.

But it's pretty painfully clear that Michael Bay operates as a producer in the same fashion that George Lucas "produces" movies like Red Tails. He basically directed that and the director was his voice box... a ton of directors operate like that and everything I've read of Bay indicates he's a guy that likes to be in control of pretty much every facet of a production.

Which isn't to say this movie will be bad because of Bay. I don't think I've ever seen a Bay movie that wasn't entertaining, except maybe the very boring and nonsensical Transformers 2.

joe-eyeball 03-17-2012 01:18 PM

Even though I am not a big Michael Bay fan, what he said could be interpreted a number of ways. Technically the Turtles' origins do connect directly to an alien race. Maybe he fumbled his words or really just didnt care otherwise. Seems to me he was just briefly trying to hype a future project. It is much too early to draw any concrete conclusions and go into panic mode.

ToTheNines 03-17-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 925122)
People are allowed to express their concerns.

But you realize they're concerns based upon one sentence spoken by a man who isn't directing, writing, or even producing (he's EP, different thing) the ****ing movie, right?

And who knows, you might like that change. The new origin might not even affect the plot that much. And if you don't like it, no one's stopping you from popping the first movie in your DVD player. But I bet you peckers would like to blame Michael Bay for that too.

CyberCubed 03-17-2012 01:22 PM

Wow it makes me wonder what the original script was that PL liked.

Andrew NDB 03-17-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 925046)
But you realize they're concerns based upon one sentence spoken by a man who isn't directing, writing, or even producing (he's EP, different thing) the ****ing movie, right?

But again, it's very, very common for producers of Bay's stature to get their fingers into pretty much every aspect of a production he's involved in. There's a long established precedent for it in Hollywood, in fact, and Bay is not the passive type.

ToTheNines 03-17-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 925145)
But again, it's very, very common for producers of Bay's stature to get his fingers into pretty much every aspect of a production he's involved in. There's a long established precedent for it in Hollywood, in fact.

I was under the impression that he had next to nothing to do with the Platinum Dunes horror movies.

CyberCubed 03-17-2012 01:30 PM

I don't doubt the Turtles will be aliens. They said in the link they updated the origin from the radioactive waste product.

It's bizarre and changes everything the franchise is about. Talk about a slap in the face to fans.

ToTheNines 03-17-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 925149)
It's bizarre and changes everything the franchise is about. Talk about a slap in the face to fans.

Drama queen.

Depending on how they write it, it could end up being quite similar despite the origin being totally reworked.

However, my main concern (if this alien business happens to be "worst case scenario") is what's Splinter's deal? Does there just so happen to be a race of Rat people living on a sister planet?

Andrew NDB 03-17-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 925149)
I don't doubt the Turtles will be aliens. They said in the link they updated the origin from the radioactive waste product.

It's bizarre and changes everything the franchise is about. Talk about a slap in the face to fans.

The idea, kind of like the IDW change-ups, are probably to make the TMNT's origin for some purpose (which will doubtlessly connect to whoever the main villain of the story will be, probably Krang... "I made you, Turtles! I can unmake you!" blah blah blah, I can see it now) rather than just a chance occurrence/freak accident.

For some reason that seems to bother people outside of Kevin and Peter, the origin as just a random thing. But you listen to them talk and they seem to regard it as a pretty definitive aspect of what makes them who they are -- you know, they just are.

CyberCubed 03-17-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 925153)
The idea, kind of like the IDW change-ups, are probably to make the TMNT's origin for some purpose (which will doubtlessly connect to whoever the main villain of the story will be, probably Krang... "I made you, Turtles! I can unmake you!" blah blah blah, I can see it now) rather than just a chance occurrence/freak accident.

For some reason that seems to bother people outside of Kevin and Peter, the origin as just a random thing. But you listen to them talk and they seem to regard it as a pretty definitive aspect of what makes them who they are -- you know, they just are.

But this implies the Turtles are already intelligent, sentinent beings instead of being turtles that get mutated.

I suppose they should retitle the movie, "Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles."

ToTheNines 03-17-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 925154)
But this implies the Turtles are already intelligent, sentinent beings instead of being turtles that get mutated.

Put a Superman spin on it and they're good to go.

Toby Barrett 03-17-2012 01:47 PM

They can fly the Turtle Blimp at super speeds, reversing the planet's rotation! :lol:

Baxter Stockmen 03-17-2012 01:49 PM

I'm really just hoping it was him being ignorant and assumed they had to be aliens. :tconfuse:

Sure they may want to reinvent the turtles, but making them aliens is just plain lazy in my opinion.

Bob 03-17-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 925151)
However, my main concern (if this alien business happens to be "worst case scenario") is what's Splinter's deal? Does there just so happen to be a race of Rat people living on a sister planet?

Yeah, where will Splinter fit into all this?

CyberCubed 03-17-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 925157)
Put a Superman spin on it and they're good to go.

So the Turtles come from a race of Turtle people now?

Perhaps the writers got the inspiration of this movie from the Planet of the Turtles episode of Season 4 of the old show.

Will we also be seeing the return of Rupert the Turtle salesman?

ToTheNines 03-17-2012 01:54 PM

I'm surprised no one's drawn comparison to Slash from TMNTA.

Candy Kappa 03-17-2012 01:56 PM

I'm not taking what Bay is saying as good fish before someone more credible confirms it, the dude can make good explosions, that's it.

This thread is prematurely dumb.

CyberCubed 03-17-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 925163)
I'm surprised no one's drawn comparison to Slash from TMNTA.

I don't think people mind the idea of alien turtle planets or alternate dimensions with turtle people.

But our Turtles are from Earth, they aren't aliens or humans.

Killer Moth 03-17-2012 02:05 PM

If we do end up with a more alien origin, then what Dr.Spengler wrote in his review for the first Mirage issue becomes more prophetic than ever:

"This very first TMNT issue is, of course, the genesis of the franchise. I mean, all the movies and cartoons and other comics have done their own variation of this story; it’s as vital to the characters as "Superman and Krypton" or "Batman and depressing childhood trauma". Though one thing you have to keep in mind is that it was originally conceived as a one-shot parody of Frank Miller’s “Daredevil” (that was supposed to be Matt Murdok getting beaned in the eyes with the ooze canister) with some “X-Men” mixed in for good measure. So with that in mind, it’s kind of a weird story.

"Firstly, the “Daredevil” bit is pretty in-your-face if you’re even remotely acquainted with the character and his origin. It can be a little distracting. I mean, try to imagine if the Turtles’ origin went like this: “The Turtles stowed away on a spaceship carrying an infant, which crash-landed in a small town in Kansas, the yellow rays of the sun turning them into humanoid mutants”. Honestly, it’s more or less the same thing, just with Daredevil."

Link: http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2009/...t-vol-1-1.html

It's also a good observation, as his Superman analogy kept popping in my head when I first read the new movie plot details. So, instead, one superhero origin might be swapped for another, albeit with quite different circumstances and outcomes. As long as we keep the original comic parody in mind, it may not be as insufferable as it sounds now (plus, as Andrew and others mentioned, an alien race's waste by-product did jump-start the whole process). To be generous, such a plotpoint is only taking the alien aspect to their origin to its absolute extreme. Personally speaking, I'm not crazy about the idea, but I can understand it if rationalized in such a manner.

Baxter Stockmen 03-17-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 925151)
Drama queen.

Depending on how they write it, it could end up being quite similar despite the origin being totally reworked.

However, my main concern (if this alien business happens to be "worst case scenario") is what's Splinter's deal? Does there just so happen to be a race of Rat people living on a sister planet?

Good point. Then it gets to the point where they're diverting too much time and effort to just make the origin story. But if they do it as good as batman begins did then I'll be happy. But they are no Christopher Nolan.

Redeemer 03-17-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmaga123 (Post 925050)
Maybe Michael Bay wasnt aware of the TMNT back story and just assumed they were another race from a different planet like the Transformers LOL. I really hope this is the case or I will be very dissapointed :tmad:

I am hoping for this.....If they make TMNT aliens I will really dissapointed....

Powder 03-17-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 925122)
Quit trying to silence everyone you don't agree with! People are allowed to express their concerns.

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Okay?

Xav 03-17-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 925162)
Perhaps the writers got the inspiration of this movie from the Planet of the Turtles episode of Season 4 of the old show.

Or from Planet of the Turtleoids from season 5. Or maybe, Casey Jones: Outlaw Hero from season 3.

Andrew NDB 03-17-2012 02:59 PM

If anything, I would bet it's Krang bringing in a bunch of animals to make a mutant army on Earth (an excuse so they can quickly involve other mutants like Bebop, Rocksteady, etc.) for his own ends, but the Rat Mutant does a Caesar "No!" and escapes with the Turtles. Ninjitsu and the Foot Clan (Bay was doing demo fighting with Foot fighters as long ago as over a year) must figure into things somehow, but who knows.

ToTheNines 03-17-2012 03:02 PM

That would be so Crash Bandicoot. And not in a good way.

Jester 03-17-2012 03:03 PM

That one sentence will haunt me all day.

"These Turtles are from an alien race..."

Is accidental dousing with radioactive ooze really that passè?

CyberCubed 03-17-2012 03:05 PM

There goes all hope of this being a good movie. Why don't they make Batman an alienin the reboot after Nolan's trilogy ends. It's the same deal.


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