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ThePickleweed 04-02-2012 01:56 PM

anyone else hate blu rays?
 
i got a blu ray player not long ago, and i cant stand it. it doesnt resume where you left off, it takes forever to load, you have to sit through the damn previews/warnings/disclaimers everytime.......it wasnt some half baked unit either. does anyone else have this issue with their players or is it just the way it is? its infuriating.

Ecto Jedi 04-02-2012 02:15 PM

...It doesn't resume where you left off? What do you mean?

Peanut 04-02-2012 02:17 PM

Yes, it's annoying that the BD format has some problems, but it's the price you pay for superior picture quality. And really, what are you taking to deal with the problems you listed? 30-60 seconds?

Also, having to sit through previews isn't new to Blu-ray. Deal with it.

gobo 04-02-2012 02:23 PM

I have complaints about Blurays, but not the same as yours. Depending on the producer, DVDs forced you to sit through their warnings and trailers too. I have a player that has the same issue with being sluggish. Personally, I just thought it was the fact that I bought it years ago that kept it from having faster reaction times. But, I guess when you consider how much data it has to process... Also, I had the DVD of Ghostbusters before buying the Bluray. Comparing the movie on each format, I see little to no difference. With an 8' wide screen, I really should.

So, for me, the only valid reasons to get Bluray instead of DVD are:
  • saving shelf-space with TV series
  • worthwhile Bluray-exclusive bonus features
  • or if you like the movie/show enough that you want to put extra money in the pockets of its producers

ThePickleweed 04-02-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 931561)
Yes, it's annoying that the BD format has some problems, but it's the price you pay for superior picture quality. And really, what are you taking to deal with the problems you listed? 30-60 seconds?

Also, having to sit through previews isn't new to Blu-ray. Deal with it.

lol, i am going to deal with it. im not going to be buying anymore blu rays. the studios are in an uproar over piracy killing sales, when they should be looking at shoddy authoring, and prices. previews have always been par for the course.....when i start up a disc. when i resume a disc, i expect it to resume. not start over. we're going backwards here. im suprised i dont have to stick it into the disc rewinder at this point. im not paying to be annoyed and inconvenienced, even if it is for only 30-60 seconds, which its not. so i guess i wont be paying for superior picture quality anymore.

Im trying to be a good citizen and actually BUY the shows and films i like, but they seem to be TRYING to making it a worse and worse decision to actually do that.

SherlockJr 04-02-2012 02:47 PM

If it takes more than 30-60 seconds to load, there might be something wrong with your player.

Honestly, I've never had any big problems with blu-rays. As others have said, the better picture quality and exclusive special features make the money invested worth it for me.

Digital Ghost 04-02-2012 02:56 PM

Well, I for one am a big fan of bluray, for certain films that is...
Not every disc I own forces me to sit through previews and even so, it's about a minute or two, when I usually gather snacks, popcorn, etc. Generally, films with big budget FX are worthy of a bluray purchase.

Could it be that your player is old or of poor design/make? No offense, as I'm sure it's decent enough. I have BD players in my PC, laptop & PS3, all of which have never let me down.

It's not my intention to re-purchase my entire DVD collection which is why I rarely purchase older films unless they've been specifically re-mastered for the format and/or are favorites of mine. I check reviews first, might I add. Even still, I download movies... but I generally purchase ones that I love, have extras, I feel like supporting, etc. I find the price of bluray has really come down, except from certain distributors like Disney, for example but even those go on sale from time to time.

I'm sorry you're having such an unfortunate experience with it. :tsad:

Peanut 04-02-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 931563)
Also, I had the DVD of Ghostbusters before buying the Bluray. Comparing the movie on each format, I see little to no difference. With an 8' wide screen, I really should.

The Ghostbusters bluray isn't great, especially considering the DVD set had a great transfer. Either way, if you've got a good TV it's extremely easy to notice the difference.

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Originally Posted by ThePickleweed
lol, i am going to deal with it. im not going to be buying anymore blu rays. the studios are in an uproar over piracy killing sales, when they should be looking at shoddy authoring, and prices. previews have always been par for the course.....when i start up a disc. when i resume a disc, i expect it to resume. not start over. we're going backwards here. im suprised i dont have to stick it into the disc rewinder at this point. im not paying to be annoyed and inconvenienced, even if it is for only 30-60 seconds, which its not. so i guess i wont be paying for superior picture quality anymore.

Im trying to be a good citizen and actually BUY the shows and films i like, but they seem to be TRYING to making it a worse and worse decision to actually do that.

I get where you're coming from, but the amount of vitriol you're spewing isn't equal to the offenses of Bluray in the least.

Digital Ghost 04-02-2012 03:13 PM

Might I add, the fact that you're leaving the disc in, stopping it, then playing it again... it SHOULD resume! All of mine do... sounds like you ought to haul that puppy back and get a new one. If you remove the disc, then I guess, I could understand why that would happen.

ThePickleweed 04-02-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 931574)

I get where you're coming from, but the amount of vitriol you're spewing isn't equal to the offenses of Bluray in the least.

vitriol? i thought i was being reserved :lol:

IMO, yes, everything ive said is more than justified. I feel taken, honestly. I expect the next generation of technology to at the very least maintain the standards of the generation before it.

sometimes features I assume are standard. i expect my cars to come with seat belts, i expect my soft drinks at a restaurant to come with free refills (in the states), and i expect my videos to leave off where i left them. its been that way since vhs, and now, not. where was that tidbit in the blu ray is awesome ad?

ThePickleweed 04-02-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital Ghost (Post 931580)
Might I add, the fact that you're leaving the disc in, stopping it, then playing it again... it SHOULD resume! All of mine do... sounds like you ought to haul that puppy back and get a new one. If you remove the disc, then I guess, I could understand why that would happen.

i thought so too, but ive read on forums that its a common issue with blu rays. that its an issue with the format and differs upon the studio authoring it.

maybe i got a bad unit though. but either way though, im done with the format.

愛 04-02-2012 03:29 PM

You gonna be that guy who just can't say goodbye to VHS?

gobo 04-02-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePickleweed (Post 931588)
vitriol? i thought i was being reserved :lol:

"Hate" is a strong word.
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Originally Posted by ThePickleweed (Post 931588)
sometimes features I assume are standard. i expect my cars to come with seat belts, i expect my soft drinks at a restaurant to come with free refills (in the states), and i expect my videos to leave off where i left them. its been that way since vhs, and now, not. where was that tidbit in the blu ray is awesome ad?

I'm afraid I never heard of anyone else having this issue. I suggest you connect your player to the internet to run a system update, and if that doesn't clear up this problem, then you just bought a lousy player. :ohwell:

Zany Orange Dude 04-02-2012 04:26 PM

I personally have never had a problem with my player. Blu-rays don't bother me, the only thing I might consider annoying is the price for them.

Master Splinter 04-02-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 愛 (Post 931595)
You gonna be that guy who just can't say goodbye to VHS?

Laser Disc FTW!

-ms

oldmanwinters 04-02-2012 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter (Post 931659)
Laser Disc FTW!

-ms

I really get a thrill out of using old technology, so I think it would be kinda cool to get into laser disc collecting (assuming it's fairly cheap, that is). But, practically speaking, it would probably just end up being loads of large-sized, inconvenient to store, extra junk in the corner of my apartment.

Jester 04-02-2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 愛 (Post 931595)
You gonna be that guy who just can't say goodbye to VHS?

That's me... :P
I don't own a blu ray player yet, but I've always been a late adapter. I still only own a SNES, N64, and a PS-1.

Ecto Jedi 04-02-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 931665)
I really get a thrill out of using old technology, so I think it would be kinda cool to get into laser disc collecting (assuming it's fairly cheap, that is). But, practically speaking, it would probably just end up being loads of large-sized, inconvenient to store, extra junk in the corner of my apartment.

They're great because they're huge; the cover art is massive. They're great display (and conversation) pieces.

Roseangelo 04-02-2012 08:52 PM

I haven't updated to Blu-ray yet for several reasons, but none of them are the OP's complaints.

KROW 04-02-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 愛 (Post 931595)
You gonna be that guy who just can't say goodbye to VHS?

I still have the VCR I got for Christmas almost 20 years ago. It still works, which means I also have VHS tapes that play decently.

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Originally Posted by Zany Orange Dude (Post 931616)
I personally have never had a problem with my player. Blu-rays don't bother me, the only thing I might consider annoying is the price for them.

Me, either, though I don't find the prices too horrendous. Some great films you can get for less than $10 and others $20.

Jester 04-02-2012 09:30 PM

As to the "My video doesn't resume when I turn the player off." bit, some DVD players don't have that feature. i have 2 at home and one of them doesn't resume the movie if the power is turned off. I know this and just stop the movie and leave the player on if I need to do something while watching a movie in that player...that said it's my "back up' DVD player I keep in my "man cave" so i don't use it often. My primary DVD player is a VHS/DVD combo. :P

Storm Eagle 04-02-2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 931665)
I really get a thrill out of using old technology,

I actually think there's something kind of nice about using a VCR, even if I do have a DVD player and a cable box with DVR. I've got material on VHS that I might pop into the VCR from time to time.

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 931683)
That's me... :P
I don't own a blu ray player yet, but I've always been a late adapter. I still only own a SNES, N64, and a PS-1.

I still don't have one either, and I know what it's like to not get to do things as soon as you'd like. It can be damn annoying sometimes.

For the record, the only latest system I own is the Wii.

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 931713)
I haven't updated to Blu-ray yet for several reasons, but none of them are the OP's complaints.

Same here, but I'd like to upgrade. Which is why I've bought Blu-rays that also contain a DVD of the movie.

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 931736)
As to the "My video doesn't resume when I turn the player off." bit, some DVD players don't have that feature. I have 2 at home and one of them doesn't resume the movie if the power is turned off. I know this and just stop the movie and leave the player on if I need to do something while watching a movie in that player...that said it's my "back up' DVD player I keep in my "man cave" so I don't use it often. My primary DVD player is a VHS/DVD combo. :P

The DVD player I have has a "position memory" button on the remote control that enables you to "bookmark" the part of the movie or episode when you have to turn it off. Another way to get it to pick up where you left off for later is just by pressing the stop button and turning off the player. My portable DVD player seems to work the same way at times.

zkarlette 04-03-2012 12:53 AM

I use the BR from the PS3 and it works fine , but I don't buy as many movies since I feel I got left of with many VHS and dvd's already ( I did keep a VHS player for this reason) now I really think about it when I decide to buy a new movie

TheCanadiandrome 04-03-2012 11:05 PM

i'm a fan of Blu-rays, specially like the fact that instead of buying sets with multiple DVDs, allot of the time it's a single Blu-ray disc. cept for when it's the occassional TV show set, but even then compared to the DVD release the Blu-Ray gets less discs

UsagiYojimbo 04-04-2012 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePickleweed (Post 931558)
i got a blu ray player not long ago, and i cant stand it. it doesnt resume where you left off, it takes forever to load, you have to sit through the damn previews/warnings/disclaimers everytime.......it wasnt some half baked unit either. does anyone else have this issue with their players or is it just the way it is? its infuriating.

Can't say I experience the "resume" problem. But it does take my player a good 20-25 seconds to load. That's pretty standard, really (the voice of Dr. Evil)... But generally you can't beat DVD vs. Blu-ray in terms of quality, so the "problems" with blu-ray players to me are negligible.

On a side note... There's a huge "blu-ray forum" out there that does great reviews of pretty much every release, so you know what you're getting in terms of quality.

Spitfire 04-04-2012 02:31 AM

My bluray player has a resume function. You turn it off and it will pick up where ever it left off on the disk. I have 3 and not all of them have the function or it's an option I haven't bothered to turn on cause it's hidden in a menu somewhere.

The only thing I find annoying about blurays is some take forever to load. The Breaking Bad ones for example take several minutes sometimes. Updating them can be annoying if it's not wireless and your player isn't located near your router but they've worked the kinks out on most of the newer models. The disks are now priced well, plenty available at 10 and under, and the picture quality is unmatched. I really don't see how you could hate them.

Luzmagica 04-04-2012 02:36 AM

Quoting Roseangelo: I haven't updated to Blu-ray yet ... :)

My last DVDs for my collection: Distric 9 and Harry potter last one!

Shreddhead 04-04-2012 03:21 AM

I use my PS3 to play the half dozen blu rays i own, and i have no complaints -such as loading time, hell didnt you have to rewind vhs's?

I guess the only complaint i have is how expensive the discs are compared to dvd's. but such is with all new technology...

MrPliggins 04-04-2012 07:24 AM

Animation looks amazing on blu-ray (with an adequate tv). Beauty and the Beast, Tangled, Corpse Bride, even Pinocchio and Snow White.

rufus 04-04-2012 08:05 AM

I enjoy Blu Ray but if there is one complaint that I have against the format is the that With higher resolution,the studios have seen fit to start to Remove Film grain from movies which is awful. I want natural looking movie not wax figures.

Storm Eagle 04-04-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shreddhead (Post 932196)
I use my PS3 to play the half dozen blu rays i own, and I have no complaints - such as loading time, hell didnt you have to rewind VHS's?

Well since the disc format is superior to VHS, you'd think that there would be some kind of improvement such as one that eliminates the need to rewind.

pannoni1 04-10-2012 01:54 PM

I own a later-produced VCR (around 1998 that rewinds pretty fast at about two minutes for a T120 tape), and still works well. But the advantages to not owning Blu-Ray is that VHS and DVDs ofter the same content for a small fraction of their cost. Why pay $30 for a Blu-Ray where you can find the same on DVD for $5-$10 or even a VHS for $1 at Goodwill? Its a lot like audio cassettes, when the same titles were quite a bit cheaper than CDs. The bottom line is that both DVD and Blu-Ray are optical discs, unlike VHS which was a cassette, meaning that the change was simply evolutionary. I think of a Blu-Ray as a Lexus whereas the DVD is a Toyota, meaning that there's still lots of good standard features on a regular DVD. The Blu-Ray just has a few added features on the same platform as the DVD. But then streaming video will likely render everything above obsolete, except for a few limited edition physical copies for preservation and collectibility.

Warhorse 04-14-2012 12:47 PM

Well, at first, I hated my Blu Ray. My biggest problem was it would just turn off, or go black in the middle of the movie. It wasn't just mine, but a friend was having the same issues with her Blu Ray player. But, we would put the Blu Ray disc in her PS3, and it worked fine. A couple of years later, I got a new one, and I love this one. So,it might be your player.

Logan 04-14-2012 07:00 PM

I'm not too crazy about blu-ray, either. I find it slow and there's really not much incentive for me to buy or re-buy movies in that format. Better video and sound quality? I was never particularly unhappy with what I got with my DVD player. Exclusive features? Generally speaking, unless the DVD doesn't have any special features, the blu-ray won't have extra stuff that's good enough to make me fork over the extra money.

I'm still groaning over some of the Star Wars blu-ray features. Adding a montage covering all the spoofs, Star Wars tech, 501st Tribute, and the little tours through the prop storages could've been replaced by more deleted scenes, the theatrical cuts, the original workprint, and a bunch of other stuff that was more worth my time viewing. Alas, I am not a Lucasfilm employee.

Raphael86 04-17-2012 02:04 PM

I have only one gripe about BR, and that is this: I hate that I have to buy some of my favorite movies in sets to get one particular movie. I want Jurassic Park on BR, but they make you buy all three movies at once to get more money out of you (they did the same thing with Back to the Future). I am amazed that Jaws isn't getting released in a four-pack and I can buy just the first one.

Jester 04-17-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Raphael86 (Post 937464)
I have only one gripe about BR, and that is this: I hate that I have to buy some of my favorite movies in sets to get one particular movie. I want Jurassic Park on BR, but they make you buy all three movies at once to get more money out of you (they did the same thing with Back to the Future). I am amazed that Jaws isn't getting released in a four-pack and I can buy just the first one.

I can agree with Jaws and Jurassic Park, but Back to the Future begs to be purchased as the full trilogy.

mysterycolor 04-18-2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Zany Orange Dude (Post 931616)
I personally have never had a problem with my player. Blu-rays don't bother me, the only thing I might consider annoying is the price for them.

totally agree. the cost of the discs is a little annoying, and since my dvd collection is so big i am certainly not replacing everything. but i love watching them from netflix or redbox and the ones i do own rock!

Moonlight1102 08-06-2012 06:36 PM

Looks like Spongebob is getting a Blu-ray release.

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Spo...hristmas/17337

...While shows like My Life as a Teenage Robot and Chalkzone are left to rot in the ground without an official DVD release. -_-

oldmanwinters 08-06-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 愛 (Post 931595)
You gonna be that guy who just can't say goodbye to VHS?

Loved this episode:


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