What will happen to the turtles?
 

Have you ever thought of the turtles' future? What will happen after nick finishes the tv show, and the movie? Will they keep it, adbandon it. Will it continue in comics,

or will the turtles become a marketing tool, and be sold to another net work. What would that mean for the idw comic?

Or is it some thing else.

What do you think?

I can see IDW continue to do the comics long after the show is canceled.

Stop looking so far ahead and enjoy what you bloody have.

Oh don't worry, i do. But I do like to guestimate the future some times. (I'm usaly wrong when I do though)

the turtles will probably pick up some part time jobs to do...mikey will go back to his entertaining business, donny will continue IT support service, raph might consider apply to be a ufc fighter...leo might think abt open a ninjastu school

They will go though anorher reboot.

Agreed. When the 4kids cartoon was airing I doubt anyone was thinking about a third show after that.

Just enjoy what we get.

The surge in popularity the Turtles are receiving now lead me to believe that they'll be around for a good while. After the show gets cancelled, there will be another and another. The Turtles could possibly become as iconic as Batman or Superman. Only time will tell.

What?... I believe that they already are.:)

Agreed. They already are pretty much.

TMNT will probably always exist in some form or another even if it goes into hibernation for a while.

The Turtles are nowhere as big as Batman or Superman. Sure they may have some staying power, but Batman and Superman have been around since the 40's. They are cultural icons. The Turtles are just a fad by comparison.

Wow! Don't make come over there and slap you silly!:P

I dunno, Jester. The TMNT have come a long way since their humble beginings, and they've become quite a sensation over the last couple decades. I'm betting by the time we're all old geezers the Ninja Turtles will be just as iconically acclaimed as all the classic DC and Marvel characters.

Never happen. I'm sorry to say, but it just won't.

They've been around for nearly 30 years now, and are pop culture icons.

How many people still knows who the Turtles are despite not having watched/read any of it in years?

Hey you'd be surprised what people still remember from their youth. I am quite concerned though not just for the fate of the TMNT but many popular fictional characters from the last few generations.

Way too early to tell. We don't yet know how well this new show will be received, though I imagine it'll do well enough. Let alone how it'll progress, and how that progress will be received. We know pretty much nothing about the new movie atm, so it's even harder to predict how it'll be received, and any theoretical sequels.

If things go well, I would guess that the new Nick show will be around for a good while, and that eventually Nick will end it to do a new show set in the future of their first show. Showing the turtles aged a bit. Maybe even introducing a bit of a style change too.

Then if the new movie does well, that'll spawn at least two sequels, if not more if those do well. All the time helping increase the presence of the turtles on the modern market.

I imagine the comics will continue to some degree no matter how well the new show and movie do. Though I imagine the success of those two will help increase the turtle's comic presence too. Particularly with the inclusion of tie-in comics to the show and movie.

Though this is all theoretical. Things could develop rather differently. We'll just have to wait and see. No matter what, the turtles gaining more presence is a good thing, and I hope we don't see a break in things for quite a while.

they just need a good movie to boost it up, like transformer

At some point they'll no longer exist, but we'll probably all be super old or dead, so who cares?

You mean the people who like Ralph? Or the orange one? Or the one with the swords? Come on now....

Damn... This isn't our Jester, it's just a decoy!

You people are f*cking ridiculous.

Ninja Turtles is a hot topic logo right now and all of the hype for the new show is based on nostalgia. Its not an iconic name that is woven into WORLD culture like Superman, Batman and Spider-man.

You show a poor kid in Uganda a picture of Superman, he's gonna know who the hell that is.

Putting TMNT against the top DC and Marvel characters is a joke. They belong in the same class as Jem, He-man and Mighty Max. 'Oh right. That thing from when I was a kid.'

I know you all desperately need to justify your undying love for the franchise but let's not take a 10 spot and call it a million.

I dunno, I kinda like this one. He's making sense and speaking da troof.

Jem level ? It's a little bit to low...and I actually owned a Jem.

I can agree with this...Jem is a bit of a low blow, but He-Man, the 80's GI Joe, and Transformers aren't far off. They are great and experience some longevity, but they are nothing when compared to the modern mythology created by Marvel and DC.

Like I said, I love the Turtles, but Batman and Spider-man they ain't. Sorry, but true.

Blah! We'll talk about this when we get home...:x

We're talking about American pop culture.

I think most people from around 18-35 are at least aware of what the Ninja Turtles are. Not only is this the age range of all the original kids from the 80's and 90's, but all this new exposure is going to introduce more new generations to the franchise.

Same way most people know who Batman is, yet they can't tell you if there is more than one Robin or who all his villains are besides Joker, Catwoman, etc.

People being aware of it doesn't mean its a still popular and culturally relevant franchise.

I love how you have to eliminate something to try and make your argument work. Some dude brought up TMNT being as iconic as those other characters and you don't become truly iconic until you've made an impact globally. You can ask pretty much anybody in the US for Superman/Batman/spider-man's origin and they'll know it beat for beat. TMNT is not even in the same galaxy as those characters. Sorry.

Sure not everyone knows every stupid detail of the Batman comics but that's better than just remembering the names and how they look on an ironic-cool t-shirt.

Doesn't matter what pop culture we're talking about. Theres no spot anywhere where TMNT can be put in that class. Again, 80s relics. I doubt the new show will do anything to stop that.

Cubed, more people around the world know who Batman is. Fewer people know about the Turtles. Sure we love the Turtles, and sure they are popular, to a point, but they are nowhere near as popular as the likes of Spidey, Bats, Supes, or Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny. There are levels of pop culture, and the Turtles just aren't on that level.

The problem isn't that they aren't on that level. It's that they aren't even on the level below it.

Spider-Man
 

Spider-Man debuted in 1962. TMNT today can be considered like what Spider-Man was in 1990, what Superman (debuted 1938) was in 1966 or Batman (debuted 1939) was in 1967.

Haven you read a lick of what Stryker posted? TMNT isnt in the same leauge as Spider-Man. It will never be as revered.

And the 90s were a TERRIBLE time for Spider-Man. Don't fool yourself. The (overrated) cartoon and the toyline barely diguised a turbulent period in Spidey's comics history, a period the franchise has NEVER recovered from in terms of quality. The only good thing that happened to Spidey where the comics are concerned in the 90s was Spider-Girl.

The 4kids cartoon also lasted LONGER than the 90s Spider-Man cartoon, yet if you asked people which one they'd remember, they'd pick the 90s Spidey 'toon.

i have to agree with Jester on this. the Turtles are just not as memorable as Superman and Batman. Ask a kid who Superman is or Batman, they'll know and favor it. Ask them about the Turtles, they won't know much. Same goes for asking an older person. The point is... people from all generations and ages know who these icons are. The Turtles... not so much. Every kid wants to be a superman... or batman. not that many want to be a ninja turtle. every major store has a supes or bats merchandise... not that many turtles stuff. they're nowhere near that level.


this... exactly.

Honestly, I'm not worried about what will happen to the Turtles right now. I'm just happy that Nick is bringing them back.

I agree with Jester and Stryker about the popularity of TMNT. Yes, there are those of us who know about them, but there are others who aren't as familiar with them as Batman and Superman. And even though the Turtles were a comic before the cartoon came out, not many people are aware of that. If you even mention TMNT to anyone, they'll just say, "Oh, yeah, I used to watch that when I was a kid." They won't even acknowledge the comics because those aren't well-known. Heck, I didn't even know about the comics until the 4Kids series came out.

I'd put the TMNT around X-Men/The Incredible Hulk level, maybe just a little below in terms of "superhero franchises", and a little above Wonder Woman level. Star Wars/Star Trek level is also out of reach as well. In terms of classic cartoons, TMNT is around Scooby Doo/Rocky and Bullwinkle level. Well known by people who grew up with them with some younger fans and some longeivity, but not quite at that "first tier" status. It's definitely above Popeye/Woody Woodpecker though which has really gradually faded in popularity. Still, the Nick generation is important for the future of this franchise; its important we have some compelling new mysteries/adventures that really are entertaining and fun rather than revisit the same tired old horizons.

Simpsons and TMNT
 

Seing Bart Simpson on your username, how wold you compare success of Simpsons and TMNT.

I think you need to relax. The TMNT franchise has just started a new relaunch, enjoy that and worry about what the comes when it comes.

I don't know why you seem incapable of understanding this, but TMNT is nowhere near the level of The Simpsons or any other high-profile franchise you can think of

That's an interesting argument. In my opinion the turtles are not cultural icons like Superman. I think it's possible (if managed right) that they could be in another 30-50 years.

Simpsons symbolized and revolutionized a TV generation and continues to make money and remain popular.

TMNT is still a fad from the 80s for the most part.