The Technodrome Forums - Best And Worst Countries For Women: Poll Ranks Countries

The Technodrome Forums (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/index.php)

- Current Events (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/forumdisplay.php?f=25)

- - Best And Worst Countries For Women: Poll Ranks Countries (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=37899)

Best And Worst Countries For Women: Poll Ranks Countries

based on the catergories of:

1. Quality of health

2. Freedom from violence

3. Political participation

4. Workplace opportunities

5. Access to resources (i.e. education, property rights)

6. Freedom from trafficking and slavery

these countries are:

1. Canada ranking at number one!

2. Germany

3. Britain

4. Australia

5. France

6. United States (we'er only at numver six :cry:)

7. Japan

8. Italy

9. Argentina

10. South Korea

11. Brazil

12. Turkey

13. Russia

14. China

15. Mexico

16. South Africa

17. Indonesia

18. Saudi Arabia

19. India

read about more in the article in the link.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...8#s=more232609

so what do you all think of that listing? Anyone think the US should have been higher, or not surprised at all? The comments at the bottom of the page were pretty interesting.

I want to write "where the F*ck is Norway on the list." but then again theres a lot of crap going on lately

ok, how exactly did Saudi Arabia, China, and India, make it on that list?

As for the US being at number six, not all that surprised at that.

Quote:

I want to write "where the F*ck is Norway on the list." but then again theres a lot of crap going on lately

what do you mean there is alot of crap going on lately? You mean in Norway?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 958487)

I want to write "where the F*ck is Norway on the list." but then again theres a lot of crap going on lately

Yeah I want to know how the **** none of the Scandinavia countries got on this list, but china, Saudi Arabia got on this list its freaking rediculous

I re-read the article and apparently this list is only from G20 nations. What the hell is a a G20 nation you ask? someone in the comments section at the bottom of the article explains that:

Quote:

The survey was limited to the G20 member nations.

The G20 consists of 19 member nations and a large number of European nations that are lumped together and referred to as the EU. For inclusion, a nation must be among the top 29 economies in the world. The nations included as the EU were excluded from the study. Switzerland and Norway are excluded completely as they are neither member nations nor included in the catchall EU.

The usage of the G20 as a determinate of inclusion in the study creates a lean to the right in the survey as highly productive free market economies are required for inclusion in the G20 but workers rights and the quality of working conditions have no bearing on inclusion. Ergo the inclusion of some countries know for exploitive labor practices.

If the study were of all industrialized nations including the Scandinavian counties individually, the United States would probably be farther down the list than #6, largely due to limited access to health care and restrictions on and ongoing threats to reproductive rights.

heh, I guess the Sandra Fluke incident nocked us down a few notches. It's all Rush Limbaugh's fault. :lol:

I'd like to see the internals to see where we fall in the individual categories.

Thanks "NameGoesHere" Explains a lot

But China does not belong on that list and they should not be included as a G20 nation, they manipulate the hell out of the economy and it is far from a free market. It is like dressing a man as a woman or vise verse it not a true free market, the communist control everything in that country including forcing women to have an abortion .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 958644)

the communist control everything in that country including forcing women to have an abortion

isn't it weird how one country is trying to enforce women not to have abortion and one is trying to force to have them...

Quote:

I'd like to see the internals to see where we fall in the individual categories

me too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NameGoesHere1066 (Post 958612)

what do you mean there is alot of crap going on lately? You mean in Norway?

yup, in Norway. Mostly with the abortion debate, early ultrasound checks and the treatment female politicians apparently gets from male politicians behind the scene. And how foreign males can't help themselves in how females dress, the treatment Muslim woman get by just walking down the streets.

An expanded "explination" of the rankings:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrustLaw

India

Child marriage, foeticide and infanticide, sexual trafficking, domestic slave labour, domestic violence and high maternal mortality all make India worst of the G20.

Saudi Arabia

Women can’t drive and were only given the right to vote in 2011. They are well educated but most who have studied to tertiary level are unemployed.

Indonesia

Violence, child marriage, sexual trafficking, harassment and exploitation make Indonesia dangerous for women while health services are poor.

South Africa

Some of the highest rates of sexual and gender-based violence in the world blight a country where women are well represented in politics.

Mexico

Male chauvinism and deep social and economic inequalities that restrict women’s access to healthcare and other services put Mexico at 16.

China

Foeticide and infanticide mean China has one of the highest male-to-female sex ratios at birth, resulting in huge gender imbalances.

Russia

Domestic violence and high rates of prostitution and human trafficking make Russia a difficult place to be a woman.

Turkey

Violence, child marriage and domestic slavery remain huge problems in Turkey while a rise in political conservatism is curtailing freedoms.

Brazil

Social and economic inequalities have a disproportionate impact on women due to their reproductive role and need for additional healthcare.

South Korea

Ingrained stereotypes and a patriarchal culture continue to restrict women’s freedoms and curtail advancement in public and private sectors.

Argentina

Women suffer from a lack of good healthcare and poor access to sexual and reproductive education and services, particularly outside Buenos Aires.

Italy

Italy has made big strides but women still face discrimination in the workforce, including lower salaries and poor access to managerial positions.

Japan

Women face an ingrained patriarchal culture. Many are taught that their contribution to the workforce ends when they have children.

United States

Women have good access to education but suffer disproportionately from a lack of universal healthcare. Reproductive services are being rolled back.

France

Women benefit from access to free healthcare and favourable maternity leave policies but continue to be under-represented in the workforce.

Australia

Laws and policies protect women’s rights and promote their freedoms but they aren’t always reflected by the situation on the ground.

United Kingdom

Women benefit from free healthcare, good access to education and opportunities in business but remain underrepresented in government.

Germany

A female head of state is a major boost but Germany fares worse than many European states in terms of women in the boardroom.

Canada

Policies promoting women’s rights and well-enforced laws against violence and exploitation make Canada the best place of the G20.

So there's nothing bad to say about Canada. It is in fact a utopia for women the world over. Hooray!
Also, how the heck is China better for women than Mexico? They kill most of the women in China before they can even be born....not being alive kinda puts a damper on living as a woman.

Western World women

Some Western World women really hate gender equality. It's not like they want to be beaten, raped, banned from soccer or get no education at all, but they really miss a time years ago when most women were still at home in the house, and with the children.

So the lack of universal healthcare is a problem for American women? What a surprise!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swedenfan 1982 (Post 958720)

Some Western World women really hate gender equality. but they really miss a time years ago when most women were still at home in the house, and with the children.

which are an option with equal rights

They forgot to mention the number one reason Canada is the single best country for women.

MY DICK!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 958876)

They forgot to mention the number one reason Canada is the single best country for women.

MY DICK!

I can't believe Canada has people so misogynistic...that's enough to drop it 3 places.[/sarcasm]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 958877)

I can't believe Canada has people so misogynistic...that's enough to drop it 3 places.[/sarcasm]

Canadians aren't necessarily liberal-minded. One Ottowa resident described in another forum how, when he admitted his homosexuality, got kicked out of his home by his family, got fired from his job, all his friends ostracized him, and he became the target of beatings by bullies. Well, India officially abolished its caste system, but it clearly hasn't gone away in spirit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha (Post 958899)

OK...and? Toronto also hosts a gigantic gay pride parade every year where the city is taken over by the culture. What's your point?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 958923)

OK...and? Toronto also hosts a gigantic gay pride parade every year where the city is taken over by the culture. What's your point?

Many US cities have gay pride parades too. But that doesn't mean there isn't anti-homosexual hostility as well, and that it isn't a small thing either. I've known some people who hate homosexuals and none of them were religious fanatics, either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha (Post 958957)

Yeah well no offense to any gay people out there but some of us, myself included, don't like seeing dudes strutting down the street bare ass naked, masturbating in public, or having sex in public. All of which happens during the pride parades and rallies hosted in San Fran. The Folsom street fair is especially notorious for some unsightly things. I'm pro gay rights, marriage, you name it but I don't really need to see any of that and there's no way to avoid it. I bet a fair bit of those people being called anti-gay are just folks like me who don't need to see some guys dong hanging out or don't want to see two hairy naked guys licking each other's arm pits in the middle of the street.

It's seriously the ones that go too far with it that make it hard for the other gays who don't do that stuff. It makes the public think they're all like that.

For the record, Spit, you'd be creeped out by heterosexual people doing the same things in public, right? It's not that it's gay people doing disturbingly naughty things in the street, it's the fact that it is in the street.

Thus....not homophobic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 958978)

Exactly. I get annoyed at teenagers making out on the Bart escalators all the time. I don't mind a little PDA here and there but some stuff has it's place and in public isn't it. I'm not some prude but I really don't think it's necessary. Maybe because I think in professional terms but that's not a good way to make an impression on someone. I also don't think it's okay to pull that crap with kids walking around. Kids don't need to see that. Gay or straight parents should not have to explain to a 5 year old why someone is blowing someone else at a bus stop.

UK at no3 there should be more women MPs

Quote:

Originally Posted by NightwatchersOnlygirl (Post 959393)

UK at no3 there should be more women MPs

How do you like Margaret Thatcher?

Not really she did bring in the poll tax in the UK in 1990

Quote:

Originally Posted by NightwatchersOnlygirl (Post 959584)

Not really she did bring in the poll tax in the UK in 1990

I thought she withdrew it?

Anyway, I remember seeing this on the Kenny Everett Video Show:

Margaret Thatcher, Margaret Thatcher,
And oh boy she's gonna get ya,
High inflation, mortgage squeeze,
Soon you will be on your knees,
But you will vote for her again,
'Cause who the hell wants Tony Benn?

Funny, even though I had no idea who Tony Benn was.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 958848)

which are an option with equal rights

Yeah, but today a lot of families can't afford that like years ago.

And this guy is Tony Benn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Benn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swedenfan 1982 (Post 962404)

Yeah, but today a lot of families can't afford that like years ago.

And this guy is Tony Benn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Benn

That explains the last line in the song I mentioned.